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A15304 The schysmatical puritan A sermon preached at Witney concerning the lawfulnesse of church-authority, for ordaining, and commanding of rites, and ceremonies, to beautifie the Church. By Giles Widdowes rector of St Martins church in Oxford. Widdowes, Giles, 1558?-1645. 1630 (1630) STC 25594; ESTC S120720 21,327 48

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for these are the well growne fruits of the Apostles doctrine Let all things be done decently and in Order There is church-decencie where is noe lightnesse and there is church-order where is noe confusion and therefore frequenters of woods for churches haue noe church-decencie For a suppose of their owne pates rings them a peale to frequent woods that idolatrous Temples must never be frequented if once idolatrous and yet religion being reformed those temples though once idolatrous are againe to bee frequented to worship God with holy worship So Calvin Peter Martyr Beza Bucer and B. Iewell And to convert idolatrous temples into christian Temples was the practise of the Primitiue church at 179 yeare after Christ in king Luoius daies There is no church-order where is confusion where the same preacher or teacher doth contradict one doctrine with an other contradictions of doctrines are in Thomas Cartwright as Doctor Whitguift hath obserued And there are contradictions in Bellarmine and his fraternity for there are 37 generall parts of doctrine and 239 particular doctrines in which one Romanist contradicts an other as Pareus hath obserued in his Irenicum There is church-decency where the church and every part of the church is kept seemly And there is church order where superiors are in superior places equalls in equal places inferiors in inferior places And there is no Church-decencie where ruine neglect dust and filthinesse are Church-keepers this is almost customarie in these daies A wood a private conventicle a factious sect I feare is more solemnly frequented in many places in this land than the Church of God And there is no Church order where Superiors are made inferiors Kings to cast their Crownes at the feet of Schismatiques schismaticall Pastors yet thus M. Thomas Cartwright would haue it And hee calls the Deane of a Cathedrall Church the Canons the Major and Minor-Prebends the Chauncellour the Chaunter the Pistellers and Gospellers hee vnmannerly calls them all Abbi-lubbers Thus what Church-order hath established hee with a word of disgrace would put downe against all order There should be decency and order obseru'd in performing Gods holy worship which is the common prayers And this is reprou'd by some by others t is embrac'd but t is with a running reverence by others t is cut off in the middle to the dishonour of God and his Church by others t is mumbled vp in an vnknowne tongue as if Papists were vnwilling that all should knowe what they say vnto God yet every one had religion in his owne tongue Act. 2. T is decencie and order that we should stand vp at the rehearsing of the Apostles Creed to signifie that wee doe and will stand to our faith but this standing vp some doe maliciously oppose and this standing vp others doe vnwittingly neglect The Font is the commanded place for baptisme yet some doe baptize in Wells in Brookes in Rivers c. to defend to vphold a factious spirit T is decencie and order to edifie the Church but some care for no edifying To beleeue as the Church beleeues this forme of words is faith enough and the best of that false beleeuing side are afraid of essentiall and demonstratiue exposition of the infallible rules of exposition the scripture being granted to be the only axiomaticall principle of faith The learned rules of exposition of Scriptures which neither S. Austine nor any other father hath expresso praecepto these rules Papists dare not follow Some respect onely the factious edifying well known to the factious brethren by opposing Church-decencie and order But beyond this edifying they neuer intend to proceed like S. Pauls silly women who are ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth And therefore the able gracious practise of the Church is neglected by them A father of the Church must not be heard in his owne language because that spends time and doth not edifie And Church Organs the musicall instruments of the Churches gracious practise are tedious to them because they doe not edifie To ring the Church-bells in peale on the Lords day this the separatists call profaning of the Sabbath And t is their ignorance being vnable to tell the difference betweene the worlds servile workes which are forbidden by the fourth commaundement and betweene Churches musicall works which in their due time done doe praise the Lord. T is Church-decency and Church-order that the scriptures be taught learnedly and grauely but now the children of the Prophets goe for Church-Doctors and a Mechanicke a presuming spirit is receiued amongst the Perfectists for a lawfull preacher if their non-Ecclesiasticall spirit calls him yet the Text faith No man taketh this honour vnto himselfe but hee that is called of God as was Aaron Hebr. 5. 4. But one will obiect what meanes all this discourse but to occasion appearing of evill and to giue offence to the weake brothers conscience Be not deceiued here is no appearing of evill no offence Here is nothing but Church-decency and Church-order which neither appeare evill nor are they any offence for appearance of evill and offence are opposite to these well governing and obeying properties And who are the weake brethren Thomas Cartwrights Disciples In their conceipts there are none so godly none so holy in the Churches of God Thus farre I haue followed an vnseemly a disorderd company This was the cause that you should knowe who are the vndecent and the irregular in our Church that you may avoid them I commend the decencie order of the church vnto you and doe exhort you in the words of S. Paul 1. Cor. 1. 10. Now I beseech you brethren by the name of our Lord Iesus Christ that yee all speake the same thing that there be no division among you but that yee bee ioined perfectly together in the same minde and in the same iudgement And doe you assuredly beleeue that Non-conformists haue not the spirit of God to guid them For they are the troublesome inventers of division For whereas there is envying and strife and divisions among them are they not carnall While one saith I am of Paul another I am of Apollo whilst they will heare none but a division making preacher are they not carnall S. Paul saith that they are carnall 1. Cor. 3. 3. 4. But I haue taught you better things then to be carnall Here is church-decency to cleanse the Lords house and to beautifie it and therefore learne to be decent with church-decency Here is church-order to set all things vniformely in Gods holy Temple and therefore learne church-holy orders that you may be decent and well-ordered Temples of the holy Ghost that in this life you may so liue together in true faith and religious charity that in the world to come you may liue together in immortall glory Which God for his infinite mercy grant vnto all through Christ Iesus To whom with the Father and the holy Ghost three persons and one immortall God be ascribed all glory honour power might saluation and thankesgiving this day and for ever AMEN FINIS