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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A70865	Faces about, or, A recrimination charged upon Mr. John Goodvvin in the point of fighting against God, and opposing the way of Christ and a justification of the Presbyterian way in the particulars by him unjustly charged upon it : vvith other short animadversions upon his late book called [Theomachia] or, The grand imprudence of men running the hazard of fighting against God, &c.	Prynne, William, 1600-1669.	1644 (1644)	Wing P3952; ESTC R7643	5,615	12

Faces About OR A RECRIMINATION charged upon Mr. JOHN GOODVVIN In the point of fighting against God and opposing the way of CHRIST AND A Justification of the Presbyterian way in the Particulars by him unjustly charged upon it VVith other short Animadversions upon his late Book called ΘΕΟΜΑΞΙΑ Or The Grand Imprudence of men running the hazard of fighting against God c. Rom. 16. 17. Now I beseech you Brethren mark them who rayse Divisions and offences Published by Authority LONDON Printed for Robert Bostock dwelling at the signe of the Kings head in Pauls Church-Yard 1644. Faces About OR A Recrimination charged upon Mr. Iohn Goodwin in the point of fighting against God and opposing the way of Christ CHristian Reader my thoughts are not God knows against the Authour of these Sermons in the least measure but against his dangerous Doctrine though intermingled with truths To be silent in this businesse I dare not my Conscience forbidding me To say all that might be said I cannot my imployments hindering me Therefore I have thought good to offer thee these few Animadversions to make thee to be the more awake and cautious Beleeve not every Spirit but try the Spirits whether they be of God or not FIrst of all it is to be observed he buildeth upon a rotten and unsound foundation pag. 10. affirming that we may build upon what Gamaliel spake in the Counsel as good and from God The principall end and scope of what he spake being the rescuing of the Apostles c. And there being nothing in all this speech excepting onely the historicall instances of Theudas and Judas but what is fully consonant with the Word of God unquestionably so acknowledged elsewhere the credit and authority of it for matter of truth is one and the same with those other Scriptures corresponding with it Ans. 1. I never heard so much good of Gamaliel except from Popish Interpreters who tell us out of the Traditions of Clemens and out of the Roman Martyrologies that Gamaliel was a godly man and a Disciple of the Apostles Sure I am our best Interpreters judge of him as an irreligious Polititian adieophorit neutralist Nullifidian 2. His principall end and scope was not the rescuing of the Apostles but the preservation of himself and the Councell from the wrath of the people of the Jewes whom he feared because they favoured and magnified the Apostles and from the wrath of the Romanes which he well knew would fall upon the Counsell if they should presume to put any man to death the liberty of capitall punishment not being permitted to them And this was his meaning when hee said vers. 35. Yee men of Israel take heed to your selves what yee intend to doe Beware of provoking the people Beware of provoking the Romancs 3. Though there be some truths in that which he spake in the Councell yet there are there three exceeding great errours in it One is that he makes it an uncertaine and dubious thing whether the Gospel preached by the Apostles and Miracles wrought by them were from God or from men he puts an If where he should have put a Surely Another is that he judgeth himself and would have others to judge what is of God and what not by the event according as the thing prospers or not whereas he should have judged according to the truth and the rule of the Word let the event be what it may be A third is that whatsoever damnable and pernitious Heresies doe infest a Church all men even Magistrates must refraine from the Authors and spreaders thereof and let them alone in confidence that such wayes if not of God will come to nought of themselves Pag. 21. He maketh a most odious comparrison betwixt those Ministers who appeare for the Congregationall way as he calleth it and the Ministers who appeare for the Presbyteryall way describing the Ministers of the former way thus some Ambassadours and Messengers of his Gods of a very choice anointing and indued with strength from on high The Ministers that stand for the Presbytery thus some that would be thought Pillars and prime men in the House and Temple of God Surely they that would be thought so are not worthy to have the smallest place in the Temple of God Againe he describeth the people who adhere to the former sort of Ministers thus many thousands more and those for the most part of the best and choicest servants of God amongst us The people who adhere to the Presbyterian Ministers thus the generality of people who know little of God or of his wayes If this be suitable to a Spirit of Christian moderation and humility that men shall thus commend and magnifie themselves as having greater gifts and graces then others and judge the Ministers to be presumptuous and the people ignorant who are of another opinion let every one judge whose understanding is not very much biassed with partiality Nay let us but judge him out of his own words I would gladly know how he can reconcile these things with what himself saith pag. 27. where he tells us what opinion the Gongregationall way holdeth of such as are contrary minded to it It thinketh no evill saith he it speaketh no evill of such if it conceives them upright and faithfull with God and with Jesus Christ it imbraceth them with all love tendernesse and honour as pertakers of the precious Faith with it self and nothing doubts but that they serve and worship God with as much sincerity and singlenesse of heart and are accordingly accepted by him in their way as it self In the transcribing of this Passage I have some light to reconcile him with himself There is a great If here If Presbyterians be faithfull and upright with God and not onely so but If Independents conceive them to be such He had said positively of the other way many thousands are for it of the best and choicest Servants of God But of this way hee greatly doubts whether he can say neere half so much as if Godly Presbyterians were hardly to be found and Vix totidem quot Thebarum portae divitis ostia Nili Pag. 23. He would make us beleeve that the Presbyterian Reformation needs suffer nothing nor lose an houres time by the Congregationall way For saith he What doth the poore flie sitting on the top of the wheele to hinder the Waggoner from driving on his way c. The irregularity of the Mountaines and valleys in the surface of the earth troubles no mans opinion concerning the perfect roundnesse of it because it is swallowed up into Victory by the roundnesse of the Globe c. The gleanings of Independency so called will not hinder the Vintage of the Presbytery Would God hee could make these things good Would God it were not as the Remora to the Ship If it be as the flie on the top of the wheele why hath it hindred us from driving on our way not for an houres time but for a