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A67643 Anti-Haman, or, An answer to Mr. G. Burnet's Mistery of iniquity unvailed wherein is shewed the conformity of the doctrine, worship, & practice of the Roman Catholick Church with those of the purest times : the idolatry of the pagans is truly stated ... / by W.E. ... Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1678 (1678) Wing W905_VARIANT; ESTC R34718 166,767 368

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