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A06347 An excellent and plaine discourse of the church, whereby the godlie may knowe and discerne the true Church, from the Romish Church, and all other false and counterfet churches, as well for matters of doctrine, as discipline, &c. Written in Frenche by M. Bartrand de Loque, a godlie minister of Dolphenine. And faithfully translated into English, by M.T.W. Seene and allowed; Traité de l'eglise. English Loque, Bertrand de.; T. W. (Thomas Wilcox), 1549?-1608. 1582 (1582) STC 16813; ESTC S103377 172,896 422

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be_v appoint_v and_o set_v up_o by_o they_o but_o for_o a_o time_n only_o and_o thus_o much_o touch_v the_o reason_n of_o the_o romish_a catholik_o who_o affirm_v that_o the_o certainty_n &_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v depend_v of_o the_o judgement_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n behold_v now_o our_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n the_o first_o be_v this_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o church_n depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n it_o follow_v then_o that_o the_o contrary_n can_v be_v true_a to_o wit_n that_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n shall_v depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n now_o we_o prove_v the_o antecedent_n or_o former_a proposition_n by_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v 2.20_o ephe._n 2.20_o that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o doctrine_n and_o hereunto_o belong_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n which_o we_o have_v cite_v and_o quote_v before_o in_o the_o three_o chapter_n by_o which_o this_o be_v show_v and_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n be_v mark_v declare_v and_o know_v by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o second_o reason_n the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v give_v by_o inspiration_n of_o god_n 3.16_o 2._o tim._n 3.16_o as_o s._n paul_n say_v have_v the_o authority_n from_o itself_o as_o we_o have_v declare_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o chapter_n in_o answer_v the_o first_o reason_n of_o the_o romish_a catholic_n wherein_o we_o have_v follow_v the_o judgement_n of_o alfonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n it_o follow_v then_o that_o it_o take_v not_o credit_n or_o authority_n from_o the_o church_n neither_o more_o no_o less_o than_o the_o edict_n and_o law_n of_o the_o king_n which_o have_v the_o authority_n it_o have_v from_o itself_o that_o be_v to_o say_v from_o the_o king_n from_o who_o it_o proceed_v and_o come_v and_o not_o from_o the_o parliament_n to_o which_o it_o be_v send_v although_o that_o the_o same_o be_v allow_v praise_a yea_o and_o expound_v sometime_o by_o the_o say_a parliament_n the_o third_o reason_n if_o the_o word_n of_o god_n ought_v to_o be_v hear_v above_o the_o church_n then_o certain_o it_o do_v not_o hang_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n but_o that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n ought_v to_o be_v hear_v above_o the_o church_n it_o appear_v by_o this_o which_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v hear_v above_o the_o apostle_n 1.8_o gal._n 1.8_o yea_o the_o angel_n themselves_o wherefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o hang_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o four_o reason_n 14._o aug._n count_n max._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 14._o saint_n augustine_n open_o declare_v that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v above_o the_o counsel_n and_o so_o by_o consequent_a above_o the_o church_n represent_v by_o counsel_n for_o write_v to_o maximinus_n the_o arrian_n touch_v the_o word_n homousios_n that_o be_v to_o say_v consubstantial_a or_o of_o the_o self_n same_o substance_n together_o with_o the_o father_n which_o word_n be_v confirm_v by_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n disallow_v by_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o emperor_n constantine_n he_o say_v thus_o now_o i_o have_v not_o to_o use_v or_o allege_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a neither_o thou_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n to_o prevail_v thereby_o one_o of_o we_o against_o another_o for_o as_o i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n so_o be_v not_o thou_o bind_v to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a we_o have_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v not_o partial_a or_o particular_a witness_n for_o the_o one_o or_o for_o the_o other_o but_o be_v common_a witness_n to_o both_o of_o us._n let_v we_o therefore_o by_o they_o dispute_v and_o reason_n of_o the_o matter_n in_o controversy_n between_o us._n chap._n xiiii_o of_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n now_o we_o must_v speak_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n in_o which_o notwithstanding_o we_o will_v be_v brief_a &_o short_a because_o there_o be_v of_o this_o matter_n a_o very_a large_a &_o sufficient_a treaty_n extant_a already_o which_o may_v satisfy_v and_o content_v all_o good_a mind_n and_o be_v entitle_v discipline_n the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n observe_v in_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n and_o also_o he_o that_o will_v read_v the_o institution_n of_o m._n caluin_n fidei_fw-la caluin_n li._n 4._o inst_z beza_n in_o confess_v fidei_fw-la special_o in_o his_o
church_n he_o cease_v not_o for_o all_o that_o to_o be_v a_o heretic_n second_o s._n paul_n declare_v that_o he_o 12.6_o rom._n 12.6_o who_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n aught_o to_o prophecy_n that_o be_v to_o say_v expound_v the_o scripture_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o faith_n now_o if_o in_o this_o behalf_n we_o will_v take_v heed_n to_o and_o mark_v the_o exposition_n which_o the_o romishe_a catholic_n make_n and_o bring_v forth_o upon_o the_o scripture_n we_o shall_v find_v at_o the_o least_o for_o the_o great_a part_n that_o they_o allege_v or_o bring_v nothing_o less_o than_o the_o right_n &_o true_a sense_n thereof_o not_o follow_v the_o analogy_n &_o proportion_n which_o be_v require_v &_o namely_o when_o the_o question_n be_v to_o expound_v these_o word_n of_o jesus_n christ_n 2d_o matt._n 26_o 2d_o this_o be_v my_o body_n for_o see_v that_o they_o tie_v jesus_n christ_n here_o below_o on_o the_o earth_n mean_v also_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v bodily_a 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contrary_a thereto_o as_o concern_v abstinence_n from_o meat_n forbid_v of_o marriage_n invocation_n of_o saint_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a adoration_n or_o worship_v of_o relic_n and_o image_n &_o many_o other_o such_o like_a matter_n and_o as_o concern_v the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v not_o lawful_o administer_v by_o those_o man_n neither_o yet_o according_a to_o the_o form_n and_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o they_o add_v and_o join_v to_o they_o in_o the_o ministration_n thereof_o infinite_a abuse_n and_o superstition_n &_o do_v corrupt_v they_o through_o a_o certain_a kind_n of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v detestable_a and_o full_a of_o ungodliness_n for_o that_o i_o may_v speak_v nothing_o of_o the_o five_o sacrament_n which_o they_o have_v add_v of_o their_o own_o let_v we_o consider_v in_o what_o purity_n baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a supper_n be_v administer_v amongst_o they_o first_o be_v this_o a_o small_a abuse_n to_o apply_v or_o 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the_o succession_n and_o ordinary_a call_n of_o pastor_n a_o mark_n also_o of_o the_o true_a church_n yea_o one_o of_o the_o principal_a mark_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o romish_a catholic_n do_v affirm_v so_o indeed_o for_o this_o be_v that_o which_o they_o common_o object_v unto_o we_o to_o weaken_v our_o call_n by_o be_v not_o able_a in_o the_o rest_n to_o find_v any_o thing_n to_o say_v or_o set_v against_o the_o doctrine_n which_o we_o preach_v unless_o they_o entangle_v themselves_o in_o infinite_a contradiction_n and_o manifest_a absurdity_n but_o in_o the_o first_o place_n concern_v succession_n i_o demand_v what_o this_o be_v which_o they_o mean_v there_o i_o suppose_v that_o it_o be_v not_o such_o a_o succession_n as_o be_v from_o the_o father_n to_o the_o son_n as_o it_o have_v be_v heretofore_o in_o the_o line_n and_o race_n of_o aaron_n as_o to_o say_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o priest_n that_o be_v the_o son_n of_o a_o priest_n for_o so_o they_o may_v overmuch_o 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it_o do_v well_o to_o practice_v the_o contrary_n the_o three_o reason_n if_o the_o church_n can_v not_o err_v saint_n paul_n have_v without_o cause_n fear_v 11.28_o 1._o cor._n 11.28_o lest_o the_o corinthian_n who_o he_o call_v a_o church_n shall_v through_o the_o subtlety_n of_o the_o serpent_n be_v corrupt_v 11.3_o 2._o cor._n 11.3_o and_o turn_v away_o from_o the_o simplicity_n that_o be_v in_o christ_n and_o indeed_o in_o vain_a shall_v he_o have_v call_v the_o assembly_n of_o the_o corinthian_n and_o galathian_o 1.2_o gala._n 1.2_o church_n which_o yet_o notwithstanding_o err_v in_o doctrine_n in_o faith_n in_o manner_n and_o in_o life_n but_o saint_n paul_n do_v nothing_o of_o all_o this_o without_o cause_n or_o in_o vain_a otherwise_o saint_n paul_n himself_o shall_v have_v be_v deceive_v wherefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n may_v err_v the_o four_o reason_n those_o that_o can_v err_v have_v no_o need_n of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n but_o the_o church_n have_v need_n of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n for_o jesus_n christ_n give_v it_o a_o form_n of_o prayer_n have_v command_v it_o to_o demand_v and_o ask_v of_o god_n 6.12_o mat._n 6.12_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n wherefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n may_v err_v the_o five_o reason_n the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o old_a time_n in_o jerusalem_n be_v oftentimes_o reprove_v of_o error_n by_o the_o prophet_n which_o thing_n declare_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o this_o world_n without_o will_n and_o deed_n to_o err_v but_o to_o the_o end_n i_o may_v not_o be_v overlong_o in_o recite_v by_o piecemeal_o and_o as_o it_o be_v one_o by_o one_o all_o the_o sentence_n which_o make_v mention_v of_o the_o fall_v of_o the_o church_n let_v man_n read_v that_o which_o be_v write_v thereof_o in_o these_o place_n touch_v the_o corruption_n of_o the_o church_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o verse_n 21._o to_o the_o 24._o verse_n isaiah_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 3._o for_o 8.9_o isaiah_n 5.13_o isaiah_n 30._o verse_n 9_o to_o the_o 13._o ver_fw-la isaiah_n 59_o for_o 2._o unto_o the_o 17._o ver_fw-la isai_n 64._o ver_fw-la 6.7_o jere._n 2_o ver_fw-la 5._o jeremiah_n jeremiah_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chap._n jere._n 3._o ver_fw-la 2.3.20_o jere._n 4._o ver_fw-la 22._o jeremiah_n 5._o for_o 1._o unto_o the_o 15._o ver_fw-la and_o afterward_o from_o the_o 19_o ver_fw-la to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n jere._n 6._o ver_fw-la 7._o unto_o the_o 11._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 8._o for_o 4._o unto_o the_o 11._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 9_o for_o 3._o unto_o the_o 17._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 13._o verse_n 10._o unto_o the_o 15._o verse_n jeremiah_n 22._o even_o unto_o the_o end_n jeremiah_n 16._o ver_fw-la 11.12_o jeremiah_n 18_o ver_fw-la 13._o unto_o the_o 18._o ver_fw-la ezechiel_n 5._o for_o 6._o unto_o the_o 12._o ezechiel_n ezechiel_n ver_fw-la ezechiel_n 22._o for_o 3._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n ezechiel_n 33._o ver_fw-la 24._o unto_o the_o 30._o deutro_n deutro_n ver_fw-la deuteronomie_n 32._o for_o 5.6.32.33_o touch_v the_o ingratitude_n and_o unthankfulness_n of_o the_o church_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o for_o 2.5_o isaiah_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 5.47_o isaiah_n 43._o ver_fw-la 21._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n isaiah_n 17._o for_o 10.11_o hosea_n jeremiah_n ezechiel_n zachariah_n deuteron_n hosea_n isaiah_n 63._o for_o 9.10_o jerem._n 2._o for_o 6.9.21.22_o jeremiah_n 12._o for_o ●_o ezechiel_n 16._o for_o 15._o unto_o the_o 24._o ver_fw-la zachariah_n 11._o for_o 8._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n deuteronomie_n 32._o for_o 15.18.23_o hosea_n 12._o for_o 1.9_o hosea_n 13._o for_o 6._o malachi_n 1._o ver_fw-la 2.8_o touch_v the_o obstinacy_n and_o rebellion_n of_o the_o church_n isaiah_n isaiah_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o for_o 5._o unto_o the_o 7._o ver_fw-la isaiah_n ●_o ver_fw-la
manifest_a that_o he_o mind_v not_o to_o infer_v that_o the_o gospel_n hang_v upon_o the_o allowance_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n but_o only_o that_o the_o church_n have_v great_a weight_n to_o induce_v and_o move_v the_o miscreant_n and_o unbeliever_n to_o believe_v the_o gospel_n this_o holy_a doctor_n than_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o his_o faith_n but_o of_o the_o beginning_n thereof_o that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o the_o occasion_n and_o outward_a mean_n by_o which_o he_o be_v provoke_v &_o stir_v up_o to_o believe_v the_o gospel_n when_o he_o be_v a_o manichean_a heretic_n and_o not_o as_o yet_o a_o christian_a to_o wit_n because_o he_o see_v the_o good_a accord_n consent_n and_o agreement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o receive_v the_o gospel_n in_o the_o four_o chapter_n he_o confess_v that_o in_o former_a time_n he_o maintain_v the_o manichee_n part_n and_o that_o he_o be_v very_o eager_a and_o sharp_a therein_o and_o blind_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o sect_n now_o he_o speak_v thus_o how_o will_v thou_o prove_v that_o manicheus_fw-la be_v a_o apostle_n of_o christ_n shall_v this_o be_v by_o the_o gospel_n but_o if_o some_o one_o that_o believe_v not_o the_o gospel_n will_v say_v unto_o thou_o i_o believe_v not_o the_o gospel_n what_o have_v thou_o to_o reply_v as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v will_v thou_o not_o purpose_n put_v down_o and_o show_v unto_o he_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n for_o as_o touch_v myself_o in_o the_o time_n that_o i_o be_v a_o manichean_a i_o have_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n if_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n have_v not_o drive_v i_o thereto_o as_o if_o again_o he_o shall_v say_v for_o as_o concern_v myself_o when_o i_o be_v of_o your_o faction_n and_o sect_n i_o be_v so_o settle_v &_o stay_v in_o your_o opinion_n and_o have_v hard_o they_o so_o attentive_o and_o diligent_o yea_o i_o believe_v they_o so_o steadfast_o and_o do_v maintain_v they_o with_o such_o courage_n and_o stomach_n this_o be_v that_o which_o he_o speak_v in_o the_o four_o chapter_n that_o very_o hardly_o i_o have_v ever_o forsake_v and_o renounce_v they_o to_o believe_v the_o gospel_n if_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o induce_v move_v and_o provoke_v i_o thereto_o the_o four_o reason_n he_o that_o have_v authority_n and_o power_n to_o take_v away_o or_o to_o change_v some_o thing_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v also_o authority_n over_o it_o but_o so_o it_o be_v that_z the_o church_n have_v authority_n and_o power_n to_o take_v away_o or_o to_o change_v something_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o follow_v therefore_o that_o the_o church_n have_v authority_n over_o and_o above_o it_o they_o thus_o prove_v the_o assumption_n which_o be_v the_o second_o proposition_n or_o sentence_n of_o the_o reason_n saint_n peter_n have_v authority_n and_o power_n to_o take_v away_o and_o to_o change_v some_o thing_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o he_o change_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n prescribe_v by_o jesus_n christ_n as_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v command_v to_o baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n 28.19_o mat._n 28.19_o and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n saint_z peter_n change_v this_o form_n have_v enjoin_v and_o command_v man_n to_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n christ_n only_o 2.38_o act._n 2.38_o as_o it_o be_v write_v in_o the_o second_o of_o the_o act_n verse_n 38._o now_o if_o saint_n peter_n have_v have_v this_o authority_n and_o this_o power_n why_o also_o shall_v not_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v it_o as_o well_o as_o he_o i_o answer_v first_o for_o the_o consequence_n that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o good_a for_o who_o be_v he_o that_o will_v yield_v to_o this_o that_o all_o that_o which_o be_v in_o former_a time_n permit_v to_o the_o apostle_n shall_v now_o be_v permit_v to_o the_o pastor_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n who_o be_v their_o successor_n second_o i_o say_v that_o that_o which_o be_v take_v from_o saint_n peter_n as_o true_a and_o right_a be_v false_a for_o saint_n peter_n do_v in_o no_o case_n change_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n and_o in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o act_n before_o allege_v it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o they_o must_v be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n christ_n only_o 3._o act._n 2.38_o p●●●us_n lomb●●●_n job_n 4._o d●●_n 3_o sect_n b._n &_o 〈◊〉_d de_fw-mi cosecrat_fw-mi d●●t_fw-la 4_o ●●●in_a synod_n etc._n etc._n act._n 8.12_o act._n 10.48_o ambr._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d sanct_n cap._n 3._o but_o simple_o say_v thus_o and_o be_v baptize_v every_o one_o of_o you_o in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o peter_n lombard_n the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n expound_v this_o place_n if_o any_o say_v he_o be_v baptize_v without_o invocation_n of_o the_o trinity_n he_o be_v not_o a_o perfect_a christian_n unless_o he_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n yet_o we_o read_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n that_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n but_o under_o this_o name_n as_o s._n ambrose_n expound_v it_o be_v understand_v the_o whole_a trinity_n for_o when_o a_o man_n name_v christ_n these_o be_v understand_v to_o wit_n the_o father_n of_o who_o the_o son_n be_v anoint_v and_o the_o son_n which_o be_v anoint_v and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o who_o or_o with_o who_o he_o be_v anoint_v behold_v the_o advice_n and_o judgement_n of_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n who_o do_v not_o altogether_o satisfy_v we_o though_o he_o speak_v much_o for_o us._n for_o whether_o we_o regard_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o else_o the_o form_n thereof_o we_o hold_v that_o the_o lord_n ordinance_n ought_v to_o be_v retain_v and_o follow_v in_o the_o whole_a and_o through_o the_o whole_a and_o that_o it_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o any_o particular_a person_n no_o not_o to_o the_o church_n itself_o to_o alter_v or_o change_v any_o thing_n therein_o and_o in_o deed_n as_o i_o have_v already_o say_v saint_n peter_n do_v not_o change_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n but_o mark_v this_o his_o intent_n &_o purpose_n be_v to_o teach_v that_o the_o foundation_n accomplishment_n and_o fulfil_n of_o baptism_n be_v in_o jesus_n christ_n alone_o for_o to_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n be_v take_v and_o use_v by_o s._n peter_n for_o to_o be_v receive_v to_o grace_n and_o favour_n in_o baptism_n by_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n christ_n so_o that_o this_o manner_n of_o speech_n which_o saint_n peter_n use_v be_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n but_o only_o declare_v that_o all_o the_o virtue_n power_n and_o efficacy_n of_o baptism_n consist_v only_o in_o jesus_n christ_n alone_o because_o that_o all_o that_o which_o baptism_n do_v represent_v and_o figure_n unto_o we_o 6.4_o 1._o joh._n 1.7_o rom._n 6.4_o be_v comprehend_v in_o he_o alone_o for_o by_o the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n we_o be_v wash_v and_o purge_v from_o all_o our_o sin_n and_o by_o baptism_n bury_v with_o he_o to_o the_o end_n that_o as_o he_o be_v raise_v up_o from_o the_o dead_a by_o the_o glory_n of_o the_o father_n so_o we_o also_o shall_v walk_v in_o newness_n of_o life_n the_o five_o reason_n the_o church_n have_v change_v the_o sabbath_n to_o the_o lord_n day_n or_o that_o which_o we_o call_v sunday_n although_o that_o god_n by_o express_a writing_n command_v the_o observation_n and_o keep_n of_o the_o say_a sabbath_n wherefore_o them_z it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n and_o authority_n over_o the_o holy_a scripture_n i_o answer_v in_o the_o first_o place_n that_o the_o church_n have_v change_v nothing_o at_o all_o of_o the_o commandment_n touch_v the_o observation_n of_o the_o sabaoth_n in_o or_o concern_v the_o substance_n thereof_o but_o only_o in_o or_o concern_v the_o circumstance_n for_o the_o thing_n or_o matter_n abide_v always_o that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o commandment_n see_v that_o one_o day_n of_o the_o week_n be_v reserve_v to_o be_v employ_v and_o bestow_v upon_o the_o holy_a rest_n which_o thing_n be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o commandment_n as_o be_v indeed_o the_o verity_n and_o truth_n thereof_o so_o that_o the_o observation_n and_o keep_v thereof_o be_v only_o change_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o time_n which_o change_n do_v not_o derogate_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o commandment_n &_o neither_o alter_v nor_o change_v any_o thing_n therein_o of_o that_o which_o god_n mind_v to_o commend_v
those_o which_o concern_v the_o discipline_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o order_n and_o honesty_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o church_n and_o consist_v in_o a_o manner_n &_o fashion_n of_o do_v altogether_o outward_a and_o these_o may_v a_o man_n call_v indifferent_a which_o a_o man_n may_v use_v either_o well_o or_o evil_a of_o this_o sort_n be_v ordinance_n touch_v the_o place_n the_o time_n the_o season_n &_o the_o hour_n set_v for_o preach_n &_o ministration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o celebration_n of_o marriage_n fast_n public_a prayer_n &_o such_o like_a thing_n yet_o notwithstanding_o this_o must_v be_v know_v that_o no_o man_n may_v appoint_v in_o the_o practice_n and_o performance_n of_o these_o matter_n the_o service_n of_o god_n or_o our_o salvation_n neither_o must_v any_o man_n think_v that_o of_o themselves_o they_o concern_v the_o conscience_n now_o the_o difference_n and_o disputation_n that_o some_o move_v and_o make_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v this_o matter_n be_v not_o as_o concern_v this_o last_o kind_n of_o law_n appertein_v only_o to_o the_o discipline_n or_o policy_n so_o every_o one_o know_v and_o confess_v that_o the_o church_n can_v want_v her_o policy_n &_o order_n and_o that_o to_o the_o end_n she_o may_v abide_v unite_v and_o tie_v together_o she_o have_v need_n of_o certain_a outward_a bond_n wherefore_o the_o church_n may_v without_o any_o difficulti_fw-la or_o doubt_n make_v law_n appertein_v only_o to_o the_o outward_a discipline_n and_o take_v they_o away_o or_o change_v they_o according_a as_o she_o shall_v judge_v they_o to_o be_v expedient_a &_o profitable_a have_v always_o special_a respect_n to_o the_o time_n place_n and_o person_n as_o for_o example_n the_o church_n may_v ordain_v &_o appoint_v some_o day_n of_o the_o week_n for_o public_a prayer_n whether_o the_o prayer_n be_v ordinary_a or_o extraordinary_a the_o church_n also_o may_v choose_v a_o certain_a day_n or_o a_o certain_a hour_n to_o 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