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A81501 The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. 1675 (1675) Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652 61,995 98

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be_v nothing_o else_o but_o their_o election_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n now_o use_v be_v but_o novelty_n and_o martin_n bucer_n for_o these_o conclusion_n in_o his_o aforesaid_a book_n and_o in_o his_o scripta_fw-la anglicana_n of_o the_o office_n of_o pastor_n p._n 154._o 159._o 191._o and_o on_o mat._n 16._o that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o those_o choose_a minister_n belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n but_o that_o this_o they_o have_v not_o original_o but_o only_o instrumental_o as_o servant_n to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o that_o this_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v public_o in_o the_o church_n where_o they_o be_v elect_v before_o all_o the_o congregation_n and_o that_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v no_o essential_a part_n of_o ordination_n 590._o luther_n hold_v this_o council_n trident_n l._n 7._o p._n 590._o but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v omit_v and_o that_o those_o who_o be_v elect_v and_o lawful_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n by_o 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manifest_a that_o bishop_n and_o elder_n in_o those_o day_n be_v the_o same_o officer_n and_o not_o one_o above_o the_o other_o act_v 20._o where_o the_o apostle_n ●nt_v for_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n and_o ●●ving_v discourse_v with_o they_o he_o give_v they_o charge_n that_o they_o the_o same_o person_n shall_v take_v ●ed_v to_o the_o flock_n over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v ●ade_v they_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n as_o our_o tranation_n have_v it_o so_o when_o peter_n write_v 1_o epist_n 5_o ●_o 2_o etc._n etc._n he_o there_o call_v the_o rule_v officer_n in_o ●eneral_n elder_n whether_o rule_v only_o or_o rule_v use_v teach_v elder_n see_v 1_o tim._n 5.17_o bishop_n cranmer_z in_o the_o place_n before_o quote_v by_o ●r_n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 392._o say_v ●hat_n the_o bishop_n and_o priest_n be_v at_o one_o time_n and_o ●ot_n two_o thing_n but_o both_o one_o office_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o christ_n religion_n dr._n fulk_n 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etc._n believe_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v etc._n etc._n bishop_n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o harding_n p._n 111._o allege_v these_o word_n out_o of_o cyprian_a lib._n 2._o epist_n 3_o speak_v of_o bishop_n if_o any_o of_o my_o predecessor_n have_v not_o follow_v or_o keep_v that_o thing_n which_o the_o lord_n by_o his_o example_n and_o commandment_n have_v teach_v we_o he_o for_o his_o simplicity_n may_v be_v pardon_v but_o if_o we_o wilful_o offend_v there_o be_v no_o pardon_n for_o we_o who_o be_v already_o warn_v and_o instruct_v of_o the_o lord_n again_o that_o after_o god_n have_v once_o open_v his_o truth_n to_o we_o if_o then_o we_o shall_v continue_v in_o error_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o in_o p._n 144._o he_o quote_v cyprian_a ad_fw-la caecil_n lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o for_o these_o word_n it_o behove_v the_o religion_n we_o profess_v and_o our_o reverence_n towards_o god_n and_o ●he_n very_a place_n and_o office_n of_o our_o priesthood_n to_o keep_v ●he_n 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