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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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ib._n hom._n 24_o vide_fw-la albert_n l._n 2._o at_o sacr._n euch._n p._n 535_o 536._o we_o see_v it_o slay_v and_o jugulate_v 82._o jugulate_v in_o mat._n hom._n 82._o and_o when_o the_o heretic_n do_v ask_v whence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o christ_n be_v crucify_a we_o stop_v their_o mouth_n say_v he_o by_o the_o consideration_n of_o these_o mystery_n for_o if_o christ_n be_v not_o ●ead_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o do_v these_o symbol_n mean_v christ_n body_n therefore_o be_v see_v upon_o the_o altar_n not_o as_o to_o its_o substance_n for_o there_o according_a to_o the_o roman_a doctor_n its_o be_v be_v invisible_a but_o as_o to_o that_o sacrament_n which_o represent_v his_o body_n this_o than_o must_v be_v the_o mind_n of_o chrysostom_n that_o body_n which_o be_v real_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o altar_n be_v see_v slay_v and_o jugulate_v in_o effigy_n do_v you_o adore_v hitherto_o we_o have_v complain_v only_o of_o the_o want_n of_o reason_n in_o the_o citation_n 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adoration_n of_o what_o continue_v b●ead_a as_o certain_o as_o the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n continue_v to_o retain_v its_o nature_n and_o its_o proper_a substance_n have_v not_o t._n g._n sufficient_a reason_n to_o leave_v our_o these_o word_n which_o be_v so_o clear_a a_o condemnation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n that_o their_o great_a doctor_n be_v even_o force_v to_o say_v that_o by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d substance_n theodoret_n do_v understand_v no_o substance_n out_o only_a accident_n which_o be_v the_o opposite_a to_o substance_n and_o that_o by_o substance_n and_o nature_n he_o mean_v form_n and_o figure_n though_o in_o this_o very_a place_n he_o make_v a_o clear_a distinction_n of_o substance_n both_o from_o form_n and_o figure_n and_o consequent_o that_o he_o grant_v unto_o the_o heretic_n that_o