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mean_a reason_n to_o prove_v they_o be_v in_o like_a sort_n use_v in_o fabian_n the_o proof_n of_o fabian_n meaning_n may_v not_o well_o be_v show_v but_o by_o fabian_n himself_o but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o these_o doctor_n say_v on_o who_o master_n harding_n will_n â–ª_o ground_n this_o distinction_n theophilactus_fw-la word_n be_v these_o inter_fw-la donum_fw-la sive_fw-la munus_fw-la et_fw-la hostiam_fw-la sive_fw-la victimam_fw-la si_fw-la exactam_fw-la spectes_fw-la rationem_fw-la aliquid_fw-la est_fw-la discriminis_fw-la quia_fw-la victimae_fw-la vel_fw-la hostiae_fw-la sunt_fw-la per_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la hebr._fw-la et_fw-la carnem_fw-la oblationes_fw-la vel_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la ignem_fw-la sacrificantur_fw-la dona_fw-la sunt_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la alia_fw-la incruenta_fw-la et_fw-la igni_fw-la carentia_fw-la between_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v gift_n and_o sacrifice_n this_o be_v the_o difference_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o sacrifice_n be_v a_o oblation_n make_v with_o flesh_n and_o blood_n or_o by_o fire_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o gift_n be_v that_o which_o be_v offer_v unbloudie_a and_o without_o fire_n of_o this_o place_n m._n harding_n do_v conclude_v that_o a_o oblation_n be_v a_o thing_n offer_v unto_o god_n without_o any_o thing_n do_v unto_o it_o but_o this_o argument_n hang_v as_o lose_o as_o any_o other_o common_o in_o m._n harding_n book_n a_o gift_n whereof_o theophilacte_n speak_v be_v be_v in_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o oblation_n whereof_o m._n harding_n speak_v be_v in_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o his_o reason_n hang_v thus_o a_o gift_n be_v that_o which_o without_o fire_n or_o blood_n be_v offer_v unto_o god_n as_o a_o oblation_n be_v that_o which_o have_v nothing_o do_v unto_o it_o this_o argument_n christian_a reader_n this_o be_v his_o own_o reason_n neither_o better_o nor_o worse_o than_o he_o have_v make_v it_o his_o 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man_n &_o woman_n in_o their_o own_o person_n do_v outward_o &_o ministerial_o consecrate_v y_o e_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n &_o so_o offer_v &_o make_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n after_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedech_n 227._o neither_o be_v it_o signify_v by_o the_o bless_a martyr_n s._n fabian_n neither_o be_v it_o ever_o before_o m._n juel_n reply_n come_v forth_o with_o such_o impudency_n report_v better_a have_v it_o be_v for_o m._n harding_n &_o more_o credit_n for_o his_o untruth_n if_o he_o have_v rest_v here_o y_z t_o m.i._n name_v bernard_n in_o stead_n of_o guerricus_n for_o this_o report_n of_o m._n juel_n meaning_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o impudent_a folly_n for_o who_o will_v ever_o say_v that_o m._n juel_n meaning_n be_v y_z e_z man_n and_o woman_n say_v mass_n such_o untruth_n can_v be_v no_o better_o reprove_v than_o by_o show_v master_n harding_n prove_v the_o b._n of_o saris._n but_o what_o if_o the_o very_a word_n of_o these_o counsel_n 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his_o private_a mass_n have_v seek_v for_o john_n almonar_n in_o a_o private_a chapple_n but_o the_o question_n be_v move_v of_o the_o open_a church_n this_o john_n almonar_n live_v at_o the_o least_o .610_o year_n after_o christ._n the_o question_n be_v of_o .600_o year_n only_o so_o this_o fable_n may_v be_v well_o reject_v both_o for_o that_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n and_o if_o it_o be_v yet_o it_o be_v without_o the_o compass_n of_o .600_o year_n yet_o master_n jewel_n admit_v the_o proof_n do_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v a_o very_a fable_n his_o reason_n be_v because_o no_o man_n may_v say_v mass_n at_o home_n here_o let_v we_o make_v the_o best_a of_o master_n harding_n answer_v and_o it_o be_v thus_o they_o may_v not_o say_v mass_n in_o their_o house_n but_o they_o may_v say_v they_o in_o their_o chapel_n this_o answer_n be_v very_o absurd_a for_o who_o will_v say_v mass_n in_o his_o parlour_n or_o hall_n or_o kitchen_n have_v a_o chapel_n and_o it_o be_v know_v 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