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A18831 The old vvaye A sermon preached at Oxford, the eight day of Iuly, being the Act Sunday. 1610. By Robert Abbott ... Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1610 (1610) STC 53; ESTC S100540 35,346 72

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Nicephorus quantam fidem mercat●r abalijs malim aestimari quam a me dici mihi temper aud●●ior est visus deserueth like credite and seemeth to him too presumptuous and bold Thus whereas they exclaime against our modest and iust exceptions against the Fathers such as are taught and approued by the Fathers themselues and by which we subiect them only to the word of God they themselues are altogether impudent in this behalfe vsing the Fathers as counters to be somewhat when they list when they list nothing yet as cyphers to be of no vse but onely as they serue to adde to them Like guardians and tutors so they dispose of them as their wardes and schollers to speake when they bid them or otherwise to hold their peace not hereby to yeeld authority to the word of God or to giue place to Thus saith the Lord but to giue way to whatsoeuer deuises and traditions they themselues list to bring into the Church yea to that desperate passe they are brought by the writings of the Fathers as that they see they cannot stand but by offering violence vnto them Therefore as the olde Heretickes tooke vpon them to be b Iren. lib. 3. c. 1. Sicut quidam audent dicere gloriantes se esse emendatores Apostolorum emendatores Apostolorum the reformers of the Apostles so do they take vpon them to be expurgatores emendatores Patrum the purgers and correctors of the Fathers altering and chopping and changing their workes putting in and putting out falsifying and corrupting most shamefully all both their written and printed books In a word like Alexander the great what they cannot vntie they wil cut not with a knife but with a sword or an Axe and hauing abandoned the conscience and vse of Thus saith the Lord they are at a passe with all other authorities and muniments of faith saying with themselues c Psal 2. 3. Let vs breake their bondes asunder and cast away their cordes from vs d Psal 12. 4. With our tongues we will preuaile we are they that ought to speake who is Lord ouer vs 6 But for our direction in the right way let vs now hear what the Lord saith where first we are to note what he biddeth vs to do for the finding of the way stand behold and aske for the way Secondly what mark he giueth wherby we are to take knowledge of the way which consisteth in this that he calleth it the old way affirming the same to be the good way As touching the first we know that the way faring man comming to a place where there are many waies and turnings becommeth at a stand He will not go on at all aduenture but staieth and looketh about him he coasteth the countrey and casteth with himselfe which may be most likely to be the way and for the more assurance asketh and enquireth of them of whom hee can presume that hee shall learne the way By which comparison the holy Ghost heere instructeth vs what to doe when wee fall into question and doubt of our spirituall way First he willeth vs to stand vpon the wayes as to deliberate and deuise warning vs in this behalfe to doe nothing headlongly and rashly but to consider earnestly and carefully what way we make choice of For as in all things so specially in Religion precipitation and headlong wilfulnesse is greatly to be condemned For religion is a matter of greatest consequence where to vse the wordes of Tertullian e Tertul de patient Cuius iudicium in suos non in compede aut pileo vertitur sed in aeternitate aut poenae aut salutis the question is not of bondage or freedome but of eternity eyther of punishment or saluation And therefore here to deale at all aduenture and in the cause of God and hazard of soules health to goe on rashly and without regard and to follow a Religion without reason argueth a retchlesse and lewd mind which we may not wonder if God seuerely reuenge as a matter of high indignity to himselfe For which cause we cannot doubt but that the indignation and curse of God lieth vpon a number of our Recusants who hand ouer head and without any due regard haue embraced that damnable way and haue impiously confederated themselues with the enemies of God of their Prince and countrey inthralling themselues to Antichrist the man of sinne the sonne of perdition and yeelding themselues to be ledde by him to their owne destruction euen by him who in infinite pride hath taken vpon him that f Dist 40. Si Papa suae fratern salutis negligens c. Innumerabiles populos cateruatim secum ducit primo mancipio gehennae cum ipso plagis multis in eternū vapulaturus huius culpas ishic redarguere praesumit mortalium nullus c. though he led de with him innumerable soules to hell to perish with him for euer yet may no mortall man take vpon him to reproue him And this many doe specially women of curiosity and singularity desirous to seeme somwhat by being that that others are not and thinking the name of a Recusant to be a trimme name because thereby there is a difference made betwixt them and as they conceiue the vulgar sort of men when in the meane time as touching iudgement and conscience they haue nothing to satisfie either others or themselues why they doe that which they doe which wantonnesse and pride of opposition iustly deserueth to be chastened by lawes and the rod of correction is necessarily to bee vsed to stay the course of this wilfull folly to cause such headlong persons to stand and to bethinke and aduise themselues of that they doe 7 For so doth the Prophet teach vs not onely to stand but also to beholde willing vs thereby to vse our eyes that is our iudgement and vnderstanding to esteeme and consider of the wayes that are before vs. For albeit our owne vnderstanding of it selfe suffice not to informe vs as touching the truth of faith and religion towards God yet our sight and iudgement out of the notice of some common and generall principles auayleth so farre as that we are able thereby to say that this or that is not true Religion because fasehood in Religion commonly hath somewhat wherein if we vse our eyes we may see the Image of him that is the Authour thereof And so the case standeth in Popery where amidst all their varnishes and colours there are some things so grosse so palpably absurd as that a blinde man with his fingers and by very touch may discerne and feele the abhominations of them For their precepts and practise of equiuocation and mentall euasion their doctrine of the Popes power to depose Kings and Princes and to giue licence to their subiects contrary to their sworne alleageance to rise in a●mes against them eyther by violence or treachery to kill them and that with the