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A11015 A treatise of Gods effectual calling: written first in the Latine tongue, by the reuerend and faithfull seruant of Christ, Maister Robert Rollock, preacher of Gods word in Edenburgh. And now faithfully translated for the benefite of the vnlearned, into the English tongue, by Henry Holland, preacher in London; Tractatus de vocatione efficaci, quae inter locos theologiæ communissimos recensetur, deque locis specialioribus, qui sub vocatione comprehenduntur. English Rollock, Robert, 1555?-1599.; Holland, Henry, 1555 or 6-1603.; Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605. 1603 (1603) STC 21286; ESTC S116145 189,138 276

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article_n or_o instruction_n concern_v faith_n and_o manner_n ergo_fw-la so_o do_v the_o scripture_n the_o reason_n of_o the_o argument_n be_v evident_a for_o that_o nothing_o in_o respect_n of_o substance_n be_v speak_v by_o that_o lively_a voice_n which_o be_v not_o record_v in_o the_o scripture_n arg._n 2._o if_o the_o scripture_n contain_v not_o all_o thing_n necessary_a perfect_o then_o evil_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o our_o church_n and_o of_o our_o time_n which_o hear_v not_o the_o lively_a voice_n of_o any_o man_n speak_v by_o divine_a inspiration_n nor_o of_o any_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n arg._n 3._o the_o religious_a and_o such_o as_o be_v teach_v of_o god_n have_v a_o holy_a experience_n of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o fullness_n of_o it_o add_v to_o these_o argument_n these_o divine_a testimony_n deut._n 4._o you_o shall_v not_o add_v to_o the_o word_n that_o i_o speak_v etc._n etc._n revel_v 22._o if_o any_o shall_v add_v to_o these_o 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