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as_o they_o write_v of_o be_v orderly_a succession_n by_o the_o time_n of_o these_o father_n say_v bristol_n there_o have_v be_v four_o schism_n ar._n 85._o answer_n in_o the_o first_o proposition_n i_o speak_v of_o tertullians_n time_n and_o succession_n of_o doctrine_n and_o name_n succession_n simple_o in_o the_o second_o proposition_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o whole_a time_n until_o our_o day_n and_o of_o succession_n of_o person_n and_o of_o orderly_a succession_n therefore_o no_o contradiction_n the_o four_o it_o continue_v at_o that_o time_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o retain_v by_o succession_n that_o faith_n which_o it_o do_v first_o receive_v of_o the_o apostle_n pur._n 373._o 374._o contra_fw-la he_o charge_v it_o with_o sundry_a error_n here_o cap._n 3._o &_o 4_o namely_o p._n liberius_n with_o arianisme_n p._n innocentius_n for_o housle_v of_o insantes_n and_o eight_o pope_n for_o the_o supremacy_n i_o may_v answer_v that_o the_o charge_v of_o the_o pope_n 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church_n affirm_v your_o church_n to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o antichrist_n ar._n 85._o 16._o 106._o 10._o 27._o the_o latter_a part_n of_o this_o contradiction_n with_o as_o many_o falsification_n as_o there_o be_v quotation_n do_v sufficient_o declare_v that_o in_o all_o those_o place_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o popish_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o now_o be_v and_o not_o of_o the_o true_a church_n which_o of_o old_a time_n be_v at_o rome_n yet_o to_o give_v the_o reader_n a_o taste_n of_o his_o falsification_n of_o my_o word_n ar._n 106._o which_o he_o rehearse_v thus_o rome_n may_v be_v a_o nurse_n etc._n etc._n in_o truth_n they_o be_v these_o rome_n which_o feed_v her_o babe_n with_o poison_n of_o man_n tradition_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o milk_n of_o god_n word_n and_o will_v rather_o see_v they_o famish_v than_o they_o shall_v taste_v of_o god_n word_n may_v well_o be_v a_o nurse_n of_o antichristian_o but_o never_o do_v good_a unto_o christian_n the_o sixth_o the_o popish_a 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caluine_n etc._n etc._n because_o i_o know_v not_o how_o illyricus_n and_o such_o contentious_a person_n as_o he_o expound_v the_o anoint_v in_o saint_n james_n but_o refer_v they_o to_o answer_v for_o themselves_o therefore_o i_o speak_v contrary_a to_o myself_o where_o i_o say_v they_o differ_v not_o in_o faith_n from_o the_o lutheran_n 41_o there_o be_v never_o heresy_n but_o there_o be_v as_o great_a doubt_n of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o the_o matter_n in_o question_n therefore_o only_a the_o scripture_n be_v the_o stay_n of_o a_o christian_a man_n conscience_n ar._n 86._o contra_fw-la the_o church_n be_v the_o â—ay_n of_o truth_n if_o that_o argument_n of_o the_o church_n without_o trial_n which_o be_v the_o church_n may_v take_v place_n it_o will_v serve_v you_o both_o for_o a_o sword_n and_o a_o bucklar_n the_o church_n say_v it_o and_o we_o be_v the_o church_n therefore_o it_o be_v true_a pur._n 367._o it_o seem_v bristol_n be_v beside_o himself_o in_o coin_v of_o contradiction_n these_o word_n the_o church_n be_v the_o stay_n of_o truth_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v pur._n 367._o be_v not_o i_o in_o that_o place_n but_o his_o own_o addition_n although_o in_o other_o sense_n i_o confess_v the_o church_n be_v the_o stay_n and_o pillar_n of_o truth_n not_o that_o all_o be_v true_a which_o be_v always_o in_o the_o church_n but_o that_o truth_n can_v not_o be_v preserve_v on_o earth_n by_o the_o church_n 42_o among_o the_o argument_n that_o augustine_n use_v against_o the_o pelagian_n one_o though_o the_o feeble_a of_o a_o hundred_o be_v that_o their_o heresy_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o public_a prayer_n of_o the_o church_n contra_fw-la all_o other_o persuasion_n set_v aside_o he_o provoke_v only_o to_o the_o scripture_n to_o try_v the_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n namely_o in_o beat_v down_o the_o schism_n of_o the_o donaistes_n and_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pelagian_n where_o also_o he_o contradict_v himself_o again_o in_o 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holy_a scripture_n pu._n 432._o contra_fw-la the_o ground_n that_o we_o have_v to_o persuade_v we_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n book_n be_v because_o we_o have_v most_o steadfast_a assurance_n of_o god_n spirit_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o book_n with_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o true_a church_n in_o alage_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v a_o judgement_n to_o discern_v the_o word_n of_o god_n from_o the_o writing_n of_o man_n the_o primitive_a church_n testimony_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n we_o allow_v and_o believe_v you_o shall_v bring_v a_o great_a prejudice_n against_o we_o and_o pass_v well_o provide_v for_o the_o credit_n of_o your_o cause_n &_o the_o discredit_n of_o we_o if_o you_o can_v bring_v the_o consent_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o primitive_a pure_a church_n for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n or_o something_o out_o of_o any_o authentical_a writer_n which_o live_v within_o one_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n age_n ar._n 9_o 5._o 10._o pur._n 364._o 331._o ar._n 21._o 39_o 42._o the_o first_o proposition_n as_o in_o the_o place_n quote_v be_v manifest_a be_v speak_v of_o question_n of_o doctrine_n and_o not_o of_o our_o persuasion_n of_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o last_o sentence_n you_o shall_v bring_v etc._n etc._n be_v patch_v out_o of_o two_o place_n of_o my_o book_n pur._n 364._o and_o 331._o be_v not_o contradictory_n to_o the_o first_o proposition_n for_o although_o we_o stand_v for_o authority_n only_o to_o judgement_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n yet_o we_o be_v content_a to_o give_v you_o this_o advantage_n against_o we_o if_o you_o can_v bring_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o those_o elder_a writer_n for_o purgatory_n or_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 44_o saint_n paul_n 1_o cor._n 11._o declare_v without_o colour_n or_o coverture_n the_o only_a right_a order_n of_o ministration_n contra_fw-la in_o the_o next_o line_n i_o know_v the_o papist_n will_v flee_v to_o those_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o rest_n i_o will_v set_v in_o order_n when_o i_o come_v that_o be_v manifest_a to_o be_v speak_v of_o matter_n of_o external_a comeliness_n and_o therefore_o say_v we_o of_o the_o order_n of_o ministration_n pur._n 362._o in_o rehearse_v my_o word_n he_o leave_v out_o five_o line_n of_o my_o say_n between_o the_o word_n coverture_n and_o the_o only_a right_n etc._n etc._n which_o declare_v that_o i_o speak_v of_o the_o essential_a order_n of_o ministration_n against_o allen_n which_o affirm_v oblation_n of_o the_o host_n for_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a both_o general_o and_o particular_o and_o a_o solemn_a prayer_n for_o all_o depart_v in_o christ_n to_o be_v necessary_a part_n of_o the_o order_n of_o ministration_n of_o that_o sacrament_n 45_o the_o old_a doctor_n never_o hear_v purgatory_n name_v nor_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a pur._n 438._o contra_fw-la about_o s._n augustine_n time_n the_o name_n of_o purgatory_n be_v first_o invent_v and_o long_o afore_o that_o also_o montanus_n have_v in_o all_o point_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o papist_n etc._n etc._n here_z cap_z 3_o pag_n 23._o and_o yet_o again_o before_o chrysostom_n time_n it_o be_v but_o a_o blind_a error_n without_o a_o head_n pur._n 356._o my_o word_n be_v of_o the_o heresy_n of_o purgatory_n and_o my_o meaning_n of_o those_o old_a doctor_n in_o comparison_n of_o who_o saint_n augustine_n be_v but_o a_o puny_a be_v young_a almost_o by_o 300._o year_n in_o who_o time_n although_o the_o name_n of_o purgatory_n be_v inveâ—ted_v yet_o the_o heresy_n be_v elder_a in_o montanus_n how_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a come_v into_o the_o church_n it_o be_v uncertain_a in_o chrysostom_n time_n and_o therefore_o i_o say_v it_o be_v a_o blind_a error_n without_o a_o head_n 46_o in_o saint_n augustine_n time_n satan_n be_v but_o then_o lay_v his_o foundation_n of_o purgatory_n pur._n 54._o contra_fw-la that_o error_n of_o purgatory_n be_v somewhat_o rife_o bud_v up_o in_o his_o time_n pur._n 161._o and_o special_o here_o cap._n 3._o pag._n 14_o saying_n and_o this_o i_o think_v be_v the_o right_a pedigree_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o purgatory_n where_o he_o put_v the_o very_a last_o generation_n of_o it_o to_o have_v be_v in_o s._n augustine_n time_n and_o the_o foundationlong_a afore_o christ_n time_n it_o be_v a_o strange_a contradiction_n that_o can_v be_v pick_v out_o of_o these_o two_o allegory_n lay_v the_o foundation_n and_o rifely_a bud_n see_v the_o foundation_n be_v the_o begin_n of_o a_o building_n and_o bud_a be_v the_o first_o towardness_n of_o fruit_n as_o for_o the_o pedigree_n be_v not_o to_o the_o last_o generation_n as_o bristol_n say_v lay_v in_o saint_n augustine_n time_n but_o from_o the_o first_o auctor_fw-la how_o it_o be_v continue_v unto_o saint_n augustine_n time_n since_o which_o there_o have_v be_v many_o dissent_n before_o popish_a purgatory_n be_v thorough_o shape_v and_o bring_v forth_o 47_o m._n allen_n affirm_v that_o after_o man_n departure_n the_o representation_n of_o alm_n by_o such_o as_o receive_v it_o shall_v move_v god_n exceed_o to_o mercy_n o_o vain_a imagination_n for_o which_o he_o have_v neither_o scripture_n nor_o doctor_n pur._n 242._o 243._o contra_fw-la chrysostome_n allow_v rather_o alm_n that_o man_n give_v before_o their_o death_n or_o bequeath_v in_o their_o testament_n because_o it_o be_v a_o work_n of_o their_o own_o than_o that_o alm_n which_o other_o man_n give_v for_o they_o howbeit_o also_o such_o alm_n be_v available_a for_o the_o dead_a he_o say_v pur._n 236._o 237._o that_o which_o chrysostome_n speak_v of_o little_a help_n will_v not_o serve_v allen_n to_o prove_v that_o alm_n shall_v move_v god_n exceed_o to_o mercy_n 48_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n do_v hold_v the_o foundation_n contra_fw-la cap._n 4_o pag._n 28._o he_o
christ_n we_o be_v nourish_v to_o immortality_n hereupon_o saunder_n infer_v that_o nourishmenr_n be_v meat_n real_o present_a ergo_fw-la the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v real_o present_a this_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v real_o present_a with_o they_o who_o it_o nourish_v understand_v real_o for_o true_o and_o indeed_o and_o unfeigned_o but_o christ_n say_v saunder_n give_v with_o his_o hand_n that_o which_o nourish_v in_o proper_a form_n of_o speech_n this_o be_v false_a for_o he_o have_v not_o his_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n in_o his_o hand_n but_o a_o sacrament_n thereof_o which_o be_v a_o seal_n and_o certain_a persuasion_n unto_o the_o faithful_a of_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o promise_n which_o be_v the_o communicate_v of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o be_v perform_v after_o a_o heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a manner_n cap._n vi_o the_o union_n which_o be_v make_v by_o eat_v christ_n real_a flesh_n must_v saunder_n needs_o be_v a_o natural_a union_n before_o it_o be_v a_o mystical_a for_o this_o natural_a union_n he_o bring_v no_o proof_n but_o fulke_n promise_v the_o proof_n in_o other_o place_n follow_v &_o therefore_o unto_o those_o place_n i_o defer_v the_o answer_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v a_o monstrous_a absurdity_n that_o see_v the_o mystical_a union_n with_o christ_n be_v of_o all_o the_o elect_a that_o ever_o be_v he_o affirm_v that_o it_o can_v be_v without_o a_o natural_a union_n by_o eat_v christ_n flesh_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o sacrament_n cap._n vii_o that_o the_o apology_n speak_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n go_v clean_o saunder_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o word_n of_o the_o apology_n be_v these_o we_o do_v acknowledge_v the_o eucharist_n or_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o be_v a_o fulke_n sacrament_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o evident_a token_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n this_o be_v to_o bring_v man_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n say_v he_o to_z the_o tradition_n of_o man_n for_o where_o have_v you_o in_o all_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o sign_n or_o token_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v a_o sacrament_n and_o because_o these_o word_n be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o scripture_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o genesis_n unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n write_v in_o so_o many_o letter_n he_o foam_v and_o fret_v like_o a_o mad_a dog_n against_o the_o author_n of_o the_o apology_n for_o go_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n augustine_n and_o ambrose_n etc._n etc._n then_o the_o which_o quarrel_n nothing_o can_v be_v invent_v more_o foolish_a or_o further_o from_o all_o wit_n learning_n and_o honesty_n for_o when_o we_o appeal_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o all_o thing_n we_o never_o mean_v or_o say_v that_o all_o other_o word_n shall_v be_v forsake_v which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o bible_n but_o that_o no_o doctrine_n be_v to_o be_v credit_v by_o what_o term_n so_o ever_o it_o be_v utter_v except_o the_o same_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o manifest_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n either_o express_v in_o plain_a word_n or_o else_o gather_v by_o necessary_a consequence_n therefore_o see_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o name_n of_o sacrament_n sign_n or_o token_n may_v necessary_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n have_v be_v take_v up_o and_o use_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n we_o use_v they_o as_o free_o as_o they_o do_v and_o as_o we_o use_v other_o name_n likewise_o the_o meaning_n of_o which_o be_v plain_a to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n although_o the_o term_n themselves_o be_v not_o as_o trinity_n person_n consubstantial_a etc._n etc._n if_o saunder_n dare_v deny_v the_o name_n of_o sacrament_n sign_n or_o token_n to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n i_o will_v take_v pain_n to_o prove_v they_o but_o see_v he_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v good_a and_o lawful_a to_o be_v use_v of_o the_o supper_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v superfluous_a la_fw-fr bour_o to_o travel_v in_o a_o needless_a question_n among_o the_o name_n that_o be_v give_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o cup_n be_v call_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o of_o s._n paul_n the_o supper_n be_v call_v spiritual_a meat_n and_o spiritual_a drink_n which_o last_o name_n saunder_n heap_v up_o the_o rest_n omit_v it_o do_v prove_v the_o name_n of_o sacrament_n sign_n and_o token_n so_o invincible_o that_o we_o be_v no_o more_o afraid_a to_o use_v they_o than_o any_o of_o the_o other_o express_v in_o plain_a word_n of_o the_o scripture_n the_o name_n of_o sacrifice_n which_o he_o enterlace_v by_o the_o way_n because_o it_o be_v afterward_o more_o at_o large_a discuss_v i_o omit_v to_o write_v of_o at_o this_o time_n 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o word_n of_o prayer_n or_o vow_n it_o be_v false_a that_o he_o say_v that_o justine_n call_v these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n word_n of_o prayer_n or_o vow_n for_o he_o say_v the_o food_n to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o for_o which_o thanks_n be_v give_v by_o word_n of_o prayer_n yet_o augustine_n say_v ep._n 59_o voventur_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o thing_n be_v vow_v which_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n special_o the_o oblation_n of_o the_o holy_a altar_n and_o again_o orationes_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o take_v prayer_n to_o be_v say_v when_o that_o which_o be_v on_o the_o lord_n table_n be_v bless_v and_o sanctify_a and_o break_v to_o be_v distribute_v this_o blessing_n and_o sanctifi_a say_v saunder_n be_v make_v by_o prayer_n that_o prayer_n be_v vow_v to_o god_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n let_v all_o this_o be_v grant_v what_o follow_v the_o word_n of_o vow_v be_v to_o say_v over_o it_o this_o be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v the_o matter_n in_o 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lighten_v of_o the_o spirit_n the_o flesh_n eat_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v make_v faâ—t_o of_o god_n what_o reason_n be_v there_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o last_o more_o than_o in_o all_o the_o rest_n the_o flesh_n be_v wash_v with_o water_n anoint_v with_o oil_n shadow_v with_o man_n hand_n sign_v with_o man_n hand_n therefore_o the_o flesh_n be_v feed_v with_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o saunder_n make_v such_o a_o dangerous_a matter_n yet_o the_o same_o be_v affirm_v both_o by_o irenaeus_n cyrill_n and_o justinus_n martyr_n cap._n xviii_o nothing_o be_v wrought_v in_o the_o supper_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o thâ—_n saunder_n doctrine_n of_o the_o sacramentary_n we_o abase_v not_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n say_v the_o apology_n fulke_n or_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o cold_a ceremony_n only_o and_o nothing_o to_o be_v wrought_v therein_o as_o many_o do_v false_o slander_v us._n yes_o say_v saunder_n you_o pluck_v down_o altar_n etc._n etc._n and_o call_v the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n by_o vile_a name_n &c_n &c_n i_o answer_v we_o pluck_v down_o none_o but_o idolatrous_a altar_n neither_o give_v we_o any_o vile_a name_n to_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o christ_n but_o to_o the_o stink_a idol_n of_o the_o papist_n which_o be_v no_o sacrament_n but_o a_o profane_a execrament_n we_o call_v not_o the_o honour_n do_v to_o christ_n body_n worship_v of_o bread_n for_o that_o which_o the_o papist_n worship_n be_v not_o christ_n body_n but_o vile_a bread_n although_o they_o call_v it_o christ_n body_n and_o when_o we_o teach_v that_o christ_n give_v we_o in_o his_o supper_n a_o assurance_n of_o our_o spiritual_a nourishment_n by_o he_o and_o conjunction_n spiritual_a with_o he_o we_o teach_v a_o work_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o supper_n but_o you_o teach_v not_o say_v saunder_n that_o any_o substantial_a thing_n be_v wrought_v in_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o deed_n we_o teach_v no_o change_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o that_o they_o remain_v in_o their_o former_a nature_n and_o substance_n but_o we_o teach_v a_o supersubstantiall_a thing_n to_o be_v wrought_v by_o christ_n word_n which_o be_v join_v to_o bread_n and_o wine_n make_v of_o earthly_a and_o bodily_a nourishment_n heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a food_n to_o feed_v both_o body_n and_o soul_n unto_o everlasting_a life_n and_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o something_o be_v wrought_v in_o the_o supper_n of_o christ_n by_o our_o doctrine_n babble_n saunder_n what_o he_o will_v to_o the_o contrary_a although_o no_o transubstantiation_n be_v wrought_v except_o he_o will_v say_v that_o nothing_o be_v wrought_v in_o baptism_n because_o there_o be_v no_o transubstantiation_n teach_v either_o by_o they_o or_o we_o in_o our_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n cap._n xix_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christâ—_n flesh_n be_v prove_v by_o the_o express_a name_n saunder_n of_o flesh_n blood_n and_o body_n which_o be_v name_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n saunder_n will_v bear_v man_n in_o hand_n that_o there_o be_v great_a fulke_o fraud_n hide_v in_o these_o word_n when_o the_o apology_n say_v that_o we_o affirm_v that_o christ_n do_v true_o and_o present_o give_v his_o own_o self_n in_o his_o sacrament_n in_o baptism_n that_o we_o may_v put_v he_o on_o in_o his_o supper_n that_o we_o may_v eat_v he_o by_o faith_n and_o spirit_n for_o by_o these_o word_n his_o own_o self_n his_o own_o self_n his_o own_o self_n so_o often_o repeat_v they_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o the_o come_n of_o his_o grace_n and_o charity_n into_o our_o soul_n by_o faith_n spirit_n and_o understanding_n whole_o rob_v we_o of_o that_o flesh_n which_o die_v for_o we_o and_o of_o that_o blood_n which_o be_v shed_v for_o us._n if_o we_o do_v never_o use_v the_o name_n of_o give_v his_o body_n his_o flesh_n his_o blood_n we_o may_v perhaps_o come_v in_o suspicion_n of_o maniâ—heisme_n but_o when_o we_o use_v these_o name_n and_o the_o other_o of_o christ_n give_v himself_o and_o we_o eat_v of_o christ_n which_o the_o scripture_n do_v affirm_v as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o none_o but_o a_o peevish_a wrangler_n will_v take_v exception_n to_o our_o term_n of_o the_o two_o nature_n in_o one_o person_n christ_n there_o need_v to_o be_v no_o question_n but_o that_o saunder_n by_o tell_v what_o scripture_n be_v proper_a to_o both_o the_o nature_n will_v by_o authority_n of_o one_o saint_n germanus_n i_o can_v tell_v whence_o he_o come_v for_o the_o lovanistes_n be_v great_a coiner_n of_o antiquity_n teach_v we_o that_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n matth._n 28._o behold_v i_o be_o with_o you_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n may_v be_v mean_v as_o well_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o manhood_n which_o we_o have_v with_o his_o godhead_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o by_o the_o only_a nature_n of_o the_o godheade_n and_o that_o in_o this_o place_n of_o matth._n 26._o the_o poor_a you_o shall_v have_v always_o with_o you_o i_o you_o shall_v not_o have_v always_o by_o the_o word_n i_o he_o mean_v not_o his_o godheade_n but_o the_o nature_n of_o his_o manhood_n as_o it_o be_v when_o he_o speak_v in_o a_o visible_a form_n of_o a_o poor_a man_n but_o not_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n what_o master_n saunder_n think_v you_o to_o play_v bopeep_n with_o the_o nature_n of_o manhood_n in_o form_n visible_a and_o not_o visible_a be_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o christ_n manhood_n the_o same_o whether_o it_o be_v in_o form_n visible_a or_o invisible_a if_o it_o be_v the_o same_o and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o manhood_n be_v simple_o deny_v to_o be_v present_a how_o can_v you_o make_v the_o same_o nature_n that_o be_v absent_a to_o be_v present_a unless_o you_o will_v
by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o penance_n say_v saunder_n this_o shall_v be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n first_o so_o many_o father_n do_v â—et_o expound_v it_o of_o any_o other_o argument_n as_o do_v conformable_o expound_v it_o of_o the_o supper_n of_o our_o lord_n to_o this_o i_o reply_v yâ—_z all_o or_o in_o a_o manner_n all_o do_v interpret_v it_o of_o our_o spiritual_a conjunction_n with_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n whereof_o the_o supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n and_o confirmation_n second_o he_o answer_v that_o those_o father_n which_o have_v expound_v the_o word_n otherwise_o then_o of_o the_o supper_n have_v also_o expound_v they_o of_o the_o supper_n whereby_o their_o authority_n be_v as_o great_a for_o that_o which_o i_o say_v as_o it_o be_v against_o it_o i_o reply_v that_o none_o of_o they_o expound_v the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n so_o as_o they_o be_v singular_a unto_o the_o supper_n and_o therefore_o none_o of_o they_o make_v for_o sanders_n 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etc._n etc._n and_o likewise_o except_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n here_o say_v saunder_n he_o expound_v not_o the_o word_n of_o baptism_n but_o mean_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v to_o give_v the_o cummunion_n to_o infant_n not_o so_o much_o for_o necessity_n as_o for_o surety_n sake_n of_o which_o custom_n we_o have_v mention_n in_o dionysius_n ambrose_n and_o other_o the_o like_a answer_n he_o say_v may_v be_v make_v to_o innocentius_n augustinus_n and_o eusebius_n emissenus_fw-la which_o bring_v these_o word_n against_o the_o pelagian_n except'ye_o eat_v the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v that_o infant_n can_v not_o have_v life_n except_o they_o be_v baptize_v to_o this_o i_o reply_v it_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o such_o a_o erroneous_a custom_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v use_v in_o those_o ancient_a time_n to_o give_v the_o communion_n to_o infant_n whereof_o grow_v afterward_o a_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n which_o pope_n innocentius_n and_o augustine_n and_o all_o the_o west_n church_n as_o augustine_n say_v do_v hold_v although_o 4._o saunder_n will_v excuse_v it_o to_o have_v be_v practise_v not_o for_o necessity_n but_o for_o surety_n yet_o hereof_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o the_o word_n of_o s._n john_n in_o cyprian_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v literal_o understand_v of_o the_o supper_n otherwise_o then_o as_o the_o supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o that_o eat_n and_o drink_v the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o saunder_n confess_v may_n to_o be_v without_o the_o sacrament_n even_o of_o such_o eat_n of_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o father_n be_v partaker_n of_o unto_o their_o salvation_n before_o christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n whereof_o augustine_n speak_v most_o plentisul_o in_o joan_n tr._n 26._o and_o conclude_v of_o this_o question_n huius_fw-la rei_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la unitatis_fw-la corporis_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o sacrament_n of_o this_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o some_o place_n every_o day_n in_o some_o place_n by_o certain_a distance_n of_o day_n be_v prepare_v in_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o from_o the_o lord_n table_n be_v receive_v of_o some_o to_o life_n of_o some_o to_o destruction_n but_o the_o thing_n itself_o whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n be_v receive_v of_o every_o man_n to_o life_n of_o none_o to_o destruction_n whosoever_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o it_o and_o because_o saunder_n say_v the_o maintenance_n of_o life_n depend_v ordinary_o upon_o the_o eucharist_n alone_o the_o same_o augustine_n say_v to_o the_o contrary_a hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la manducare_fw-la illam_fw-la escam_fw-la &_o illum_fw-la bibere_fw-la potum_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la manere_fw-la &_o illum_fw-la manentem_fw-la in_o se_fw-la habere_fw-la ac_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la &_o in_o quo_fw-la non_fw-la manet_fw-la christus_fw-la proâ—ul_fw-la dubio_fw-la nec_fw-la manducat_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la carnem_fw-la eius_fw-la nec_fw-la bibit_fw-la eius_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la licet_fw-la carnaliter_fw-la &_o visibiliter_fw-la premat_fw-la dentibus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la tantae_fw-la rei_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ad_fw-la iudiâ—itan_fw-mi sibi_fw-la manducat_fw-la &_o bibit_fw-la for_o this_o it_o be_v to_o eat_v that_o meat_n and_o to_o drink_v that_o drink_n to_o abide_v in_o christ_n and_o to_o have_v he_o abide_v in_o us._n and_o by_o this_o he_o which_o abide_v not_o in_o christ_n &_o in_o who_o christ_n do_v not_o abide_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n neither_o do_v he_o eat_v spiritual_o his_o flesh_n not_o drink_v his_o blood_n although_o carnal_o and_o visible_o he_o press_v with_o his_o tooth_n the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o rather_o he_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacrament_n of_o so_o great_a a_o thing_n unto_o his_o own_o damnation_n here_o augustine_n oppose_v the_o eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n spiritual_o with_o eat_v the_o sacrament_n thereof_o carnal_o whereby_o he_o show_v that_o christ_n flesh_n be_v not_o eat_v but_o spiritual_o and_o effectual_o although_o the_o sacrament_n thereof_o be_v eat_v carnal_o to_o destruction_n and_o by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v how_o well_o red_a saunder_n be_v in_o augustine_n which_o profess_v that_o in_o his_o work_n he_o never_o see_v one_o syllable_n why_o to_o think_v that_o he_o will_v the_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o sixth_o of_o s._n john_n to_o belong_v only_o to_o spiritual_a eat_n when_o augustine_n say_v express_o this_o be_v to_o eat_v that_o meat_n to_o eat_v spiritual_o to_o have_v christ_n abide_v in_o we_o etc._n etc._n but_o that_o same_o augustine_n de_fw-fr peccat_fw-la merit_n lib_n 1._o cap._n 20._o say_v dominum_fw-la audiamus_fw-la inquâ—m_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la sacramento_n lavacri_fw-la dicentem_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-fr sacramento_n sanctae_fw-la mensae_fw-la suae_fw-la quò_fw-la nemo_fw-la ritè_fw-la nisi_fw-la baptizaâ—us_fw-la accedit_fw-la nisi_fw-la manducaveritis_fw-la carnem_fw-la meam_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v we_o hear_v our_o lord_n i_o say_v not_o say_v in_o deed_n this_o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n but_o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o holy_a table_n whither_o no_o man_n come_v well_o unless_o he_o be_v baptize_v except_o you_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n you_o shall_v not_o have_v life_n in_o you_o etc._n etc._n here_o say_v saunder_n it_o be_v plain_a by_o augustine_n judgement_n that_o christ_n in_o that_o chapter_n speak_v not_o of_o baptism_n and_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o his_o supper_n i_o answer_v augustin_n write_v against_o the_o pelagian_n which_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v necessary_a for_o infant_n as_o for_o they_o that_o have_v no_o original_a nor_o actual_a sin_n labour_v to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n by_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v of_o water_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n etc._n etc._n to_o bring_v infant_n under_o the_o compass_n of_o sin_n and_o to_o establish_v their_o salvation_n only_o by_o grace_n &_o not_o by_o merit_n of_o their_o work_n his_o cause_n in_o deed_n be_v good_a but_o his_o argument_n be_v weak_a to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n by_o that_o text_n even_o as_o to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o communion_n for_o infant_n by_o this_o text_n of_o the_o 6._o of_o s._n john_n which_o be_v not_o needful_a nor_o lawful_a to_o be_v give_v unto_o they_o at_o all_o yet_o such_o be_v his_o error_n that_o he_o think_v infant_n be_v charge_v by_o this_o text_n to_o communicate_v in_o pain_n of_o damnation_n that_o he_o judge_v they_o ought_v to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v true_a by_o that_o text_n but_o that_o he_o think_v this_o partake_n
be_v by_o the_o sacrament_n in_o young_a child_n he_o be_v deceive_v yet_o saunder_n say_v it_o be_v not_o of_o necessity_n but_o of_o surety_n whereas_o augustine_n error_n be_v manifest_a to_o urge_v it_o of_o necessity_n an_fw-mi verò_fw-la quisquam_fw-la etiam_fw-la hoc_fw-la dicere_fw-la audebit_fw-la quòd_fw-la ad_fw-la paruulos_fw-la haec_fw-la sententia_fw-la non_fw-la pertineat_fw-la possintque_fw-la sine_fw-la participatione_fw-la corporis_fw-la h_o 〈…〉_o we_o &_o sanguinis_fw-la in_o se_fw-la habere_fw-la vitam_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la ait_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la manducaverit_fw-la sicut_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la renatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v there_o any_o man_n that_o dare_v say_v this_o also_o that_o this_o sentence_n pertain_v not_o unto_o young_a child_n and_o that_o they_o may_v without_o the_o participation_n of_o this_o body_n and_o blood_n have_v life_n in_o they_o because_o he_o say_v not_o he_o that_o shall_v not_o eat_v as_o of_o baptism_n he_o that_o shall_v not_o be_v bear_v again_o i_o will_v make_v answer_n to_o augustine_n not_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o pelagian_n but_o in_o discover_v of_o his_o error_n regeneration_n be_v undoubted_o prove_v necessary_a for_o infant_n by_o that_o place_n of_o john_n 3._o as_o eat_v and_o drink_v of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o this_o 6._o of_o john_n which_o be_v enough_o to_o overthrow_v the_o pelagian_n but_o neither_o in_o the_o one_o place_n nor_o in_o the_o other_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o external_a sacrament_n be_v require_v but_o as_o it_o may_v possible_o and_o aught_o to_o be_v profitable_o receive_v according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n wherefore_o augustine_n in_o this_o place_n apply_v the_o text_n unto_o the_o sacrament_n in_o argue_v from_o the_o sign_n to_o the_o thing_n signify_v or_o contrariwise_o must_v be_v understand_v according_a to_o his_o deliberate_a exposition_n in_o joh._n tr._n 26._o or_o else_o he_o shall_v be_v find_v contrary_a to_o himself_o and_o whereas_o saunder_n say_v this_o text_n so_o appertain_v to_o the_o supper_n as_o it_o appertain_v not_o to_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o be_v take_v of_o the_o spiritual_a unite_n with_o christ_n which_o be_v in_o baptism_n i_o deny_v the_o argument_n for_o although_o it_o do_v not_o so_o proper_o pertain_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o wash_v as_o to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o feed_v and_o nourish_v yet_o do_v it_o also_o pertain_v to_o baptism_n in_o as_o much_o as_o by_o baptism_n we_o be_v not_o only_o wash_v by_o christ_n blood_n from_o our_o sin_n but_o whole_o regenerate_v &_o bear_v a_o new_a to_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n which_o we_o can_v be_v but_o by_o participation_n of_o flesh_n &_o blood_n with_o our_o brother_n jesus_n christ_n and_o therefore_o we_o be_v also_o in_o baptism_n spiritual_o feed_v with_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n to_o that_o which_o be_v bring_v out_o of_o basil_n ep._n 141._o that_o christ_n in_o this_o text_n call_v his_o whole_a mystical_a come_n flesh_n and_o blood_n saunder_n answer_v that_o say_v may_v be_v verify_v of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o supper_n because_o he_o that_o receive_v worthy_o be_v partaker_n of_o all_o the_o mystery_n of_o christ._n but_o that_o it_o can_v be_v singular_o apply_v to_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v all_o the_o question_n his_o own_o word_n shall_v declare_v edimus_fw-la enim_fw-la ipsius_fw-la carnem_fw-la &_o bibimus_fw-la ipsius_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la per_fw-la incarnationem_fw-la participes_fw-la fientes_fw-la &_o sensibitis_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la verbi_fw-la &_o sapientiae_fw-la carnem_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la totum_fw-la suum_fw-la mysterium_fw-la adventum_fw-la nominavit_fw-la &_o doctrinam_fw-la &_o activa_fw-la &_o naturali_fw-la ac_fw-la theologica_fw-la constantem_fw-la indicavit_fw-la per_fw-la quam_fw-la nutritur_fw-la anima_fw-la &_o interim_n ad_fw-la veritatis_fw-la speculationem_fw-la praeparatur_fw-la for_o we_o eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n be_v make_v partaker_n by_o his_o incarnation_n both_o of_o sensible_a life_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o wisdom_n for_o he_o name_v his_o whole_a mystical_a come_v flesh_n and_o blood_n &_o show_v his_o doctrine_n consist_v of_o active_a natural_a and_o theological_a by_o which_o the_o soul_n be_v nourish_v and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n prepare_v unto_o the_o behold_n of_o the_o truth_n thus_o by_o basils_n judgement_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n incarnation_n and_o doctrine_n we_o eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n whereof_o we_o be_v assure_v by_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o the_o text_n be_v not_o a_o singular_a promise_n of_o christ_n natural_a flesh_n to_o be_v after_o a_o corporal_a manner_n receive_v in_o the_o sacrament_n cap._n v._n their_o reason_n be_v answer_v who_o deny_v christ_n to_o speak_v proper_o saunder_n of_o his_o last_o supper_n in_o s._n john_n the_o reason_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n such_o as_o papist_n fulke_n have_v make_v which_o think_v in_o their_o conscience_n that_o this_o chapter_n be_v not_o proper_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o sacrament_n against_o who_o saunder_n oppose_v himself_o not_o regard_v with_o what_o conscience_n but_o with_o what_o show_n of_o word_n he_o may_v maintain_v his_o false_a position_n against_o all_o man_n the_o argument_n as_o he_o number_v they_o be_v five_o the_o first_o be_v this_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o this_o chapter_n ergo_fw-la it_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o supper_n this_o argument_n saunder_n deny_v because_o a_o man_n may_v be_v invite_v to_o a_o pastry_n or_o tart_n although_o it_o be_v not_o tell_v he_o of_o what_o stuff_n it_o shall_v be_v make_v good_a stuff_n i_o warrant_v you_o again_o he_o say_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v not_o more_o necessary_a than_o the_o form_n of_o word_n but_o christ_n say_v to_o nicodemus_n except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n etc._n etc._n although_o he_o name_v the_o matter_n show_v not_o the_o word_n that_o make_v the_o sacrament_n yet_o speak_v he_o there_o of_o baptism_n ergo_fw-la here_o of_o the_o supper_n i_o deny_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o baptism_n there_o otherwise_o then_o of_o the_o supper_n here_o by_o comprehend_v the_o seal_n of_o assurance_n under_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o this_o argument_n saunder_n allow_v well_o christ_n speak_v not_o of_o bread_n nor_o wine_n therefore_o he_o mean_v not_o to_o bind_v we_o to_o receive_v under_o both_o kind_n but_o to_o receive_v that_o thing_n which_o be_v his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n under_o what_o kind_n soever_o we_o receive_v it_o if_o this_o be_v true_a it_o be_v well_o do_v to_o take_v the_o bread_n from_o the_o people_n another_o while_n &_o to_o serve_v they_o of_o the_o cup_n consecrate_v for_o a_o whole_a communion_n but_o behold_v the_o sincerity_n of_o this_o academical_a disputer_n allow_v this_o argument_n to_o maintain_v horrible_a sacrilege_n as_o though_o christ_n do_v not_o name_n drink_v almost_o as_o often_o as_o eat_v although_o he_o name_v neither_o bread_n nor_o wine_n and_o if_o his_o blood_n be_v drink_n in_o deed_n then_o be_v it_o not_o receive_v with_o the_o bread_n which_o be_v not_o drink_v but_o eat_v the_o second_o argument_n be_v christ_n speak_v of_o eat_v he_o by_o faith_n &_o therefore_o say_v this_o be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n that_o you_o shall_v believe_v in_o he_o who_o he_o have_v send_v he_o that_o believe_v in_o i_o shall_v not_o hunger_n but_o there_o be_v some_o of_o you_o which_o believe_v not_o so_z that_o the_o eat_n be_v believe_v &_o the_o not_o eat_v be_v not_o believe_v to_o this_o argument_n ground_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n he_o have_v nothing_o to_o answer_v but_o by_o a_o lewd_a distinction_n of_o eat_v of_o christ_n that_o be_v of_o his_o grace_n by_o faith_n &_o eat_v christ_n that_o be_v his_o whole_a flesh_n blood_n soul_n &_o godhead_n into_o our_o body_n by_o colour_n of_o these_o word_n manducare_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la pane_fw-la &_o manducare_fw-la hunc_fw-la panem_fw-la which_o our_o saviour_n christ_n manifest_o confound_v &_o use_v for_o all_o one_o but_o that_o you_o may_v see_v his_o gross_a folly_n &_o madness_n you_o must_v remember_v that_o he_o make_v these_o word_n to_o be_v the_o chief_a word_n of_o promise_n of_o his_o supper_n the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v be_v my_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n now_o the_o whole_a context_n be_v this_o i_o be_o that_o live_v bread_n which_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n if_o a_o man_n eat_v of_o this_o bread_n he_o shall_v live_v for_o ever_o &_o the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v be_v my_o flesh_n which_o i_o will_v give_v for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n mark_v now_o what_o will_v become_v of_o sanders_n distinction_n to_o eat_v of_o this_o bread_n be_v to_o be_v partaker_n of_o grace_n by_o faith_n which_o he_o confess_v 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for_o we_o affirm_v that_o every_o one_o of_o god_n elect_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n have_v be_v feed_v true_o with_o the_o very_a natural_a flesh_n of_o christ_n but_o spiritual_o receive_v and_o by_o other_o mean_n then_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n in_o the_o supper_n namely_o by_o faith_n and_o in_o other_o sacrament_n in_o they_o that_o be_v of_o discretion_n and_o may_v come_v to_o they_o and_o even_o without_o faith_n and_o without_o sacrament_n in_o such_o of_o god_n elect_v as_o lack_v age_n be_v prevent_v by_o death_n before_o they_o can_v be_v partaker_n of_o sacrament_n by_o the_o only_a work_n of_o god_n holy_a spirit_n who_o no_o less_o work_v in_o this_o wonderful_a spiritual_a nourishment_n then_o in_o any_o spiritual_a regeneration_n and_o therefore_o saunder_n reason_v like_o a_o gross_a philosopher_n when_o he_o say_v that_o no_o sign_n be_v able_a to_o comiey_v that_o heavenly_a bread_n to_o us._n it_o be_v horrible_a blasphemy_n to_o say_v that_o my_o faith_n be_v able_a to_o derive_v the_o substance_n of_o god_n as_o meat_n into_o my_o soul_n and_o body_n see_v faith_n be_v but_o a_o creature_n only_o wherein_o the_o fullness_n of_o godhead_n dwell_v not_o and_o therefore_o be_v not_o able_a to_o attain_v to_o the_o union_n of_o god_n nature_n and_o much_o less_o able_a to_o give_v it_o i_o and_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o that_o saunder_n say_v the_o apostle_n pray_v that_o christ_n in_o who_o the_o fullness_n of_o the_o godhead_n dwell_v corporal_o may_v dwell_v in_o our_o heart_n by_o faith_n in_o deed_n not_o by_o the_o worthiness_n of_o faith_n but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n who_o give_v strength_n to_o the_o weak_a element_n of_o the_o world_n and_o to_o our_o unperfect_a faith_n to_o bring_v to_o pass_v wonderful_a effect_n as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o baptism_n wherefore_o to_o reason_n of_o the_o weakness_n of_o sign_n and_o unablenesse_n of_o faith_n several_o from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v as_o much_o as_o if_o you_o will_v go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o because_o a_o man_n body_n without_o his_o soul_n can_v do_v nothing_o therefore_o be_v unite_v to_o his_o soul_n it_o be_v not_o of_o force_n to_o do_v any_o thing_n to_o prove_v that_o we_o can_v be_v partaker_n of_o the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n without_o his_o flesh_n he_o allege_v cyrillus_n and_o augustine_n who_o authority_n it_o be_v needless_a to_o repeat_v see_v we_o grant_v as_o much_o as_o he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o they_o but_o beside_o they_o he_o cit_v hilarius_n lib._n 8._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la si_fw-la verè_fw-la verbum_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o the_o word_n be_v true_o make_v flesh_n and_o in_o our_o lord_n meat_n we_o true_o receive_v the_o word_n make_v flesh_n how_o can_v it_o be_v but_o he_o must_v be_v judge_v to_o dwell_v natural_o in_o we_o hereof_o he_o gather_v that_o we_o receive_v christ_n into_o our_o body_n after_o a_o carnal_a manner_n of_o receive_v which_o be_v far_o from_o hilary_n meaning_n although_o he_o use_v the_o word_n natural_o which_o even_o saunder_n must_v confess_v to_o be_v unproper_o use_v or_o else_o he_o shall_v admit_v many_o unnatural_a conclusion_n wherefore_o by_o natural_o he_o mean_v proper_o very_o and_o true_o yet_o after_o a_o divine_a and_o spiritual_a manner_n not_o after_o a_o gross_a natural_a and_o sensible_a manner_n of_o habitation_n again_o this_o dwell_n of_o christ_n in_o we_o natural_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o he_o be_v corporal_o receive_v into_o our_o mouth_n and_o settle_v in_o our_o stomach_n but_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o he_o mean_v christ_n to_o be_v spiritual_o receive_v in_o that_o he_o affirm_v it_o be_v not_o possible_a but_o that_o he_o must_v dwell_v natural_o in_o they_o that_o receive_v his_o flesh_n in_o the_o lord_n meat_n saunder_n add_v worthy_o but_o hilary_n say_v true_o therefore_o whosoever_o true_o receive_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o meat_n of_o our_o lord_n christ_n must_v needs_o dwell_v in_o he_o natural_o but_o christ_n dwell_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o ungodly_a therefore_o the_o ungodly_a receive_v not_o his_o flesh_n in_o the_o lord_n meat_n as_o the_o papist_n say_v in_o who_o also_o he_o shall_v dwell_v natural_o if_o he_o be_v receive_v true_o or_o as_o they_o say_v corporal_o cap._n ix_o by_o the_o three_o diverse_a giving_n which_o be_v name_v in_o saint_n john_n saunder_n it_o be_v show_v that_o christ_n give_v his_o real_a flesh_n under_o the_o figure_n of_o another_o thing_n the_o three_o time_n of_o give_v do_v not_o prove_v that_o three_o 〈◊〉_d diverse_a thing_n be_v give_v neither_o do_v saunder_n say_v one_o word_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o do_v and_o where_o be_v then_o the_o ground_n of_o this_o disputation_n god_n by_o moses_n say_v saunder_n be_v say_v to_o have_v give_v in_o time_n past_a he_o have_v give_v they_o bread_n from_o heaven_n to_o eat_v but_o christ_n say_v moses_n give_v you_o not_o bread_n from_o heaven_n but_o my_o father_n give_v you_o the_o true_a bread_n from_o heaven_n even_o he_o which_o give_v they_o manna_n for_o a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o true_a bread_n even_o he_o give_v then_o give_v now_o and_o shall_v give_v for_o ever_o the_o true_a bread_n from_o heaven_n which_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n incarnate_a crucify_a reviue_v and_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n for_o our_o salvation_n and_o how_o can_v saunder_n prove_v that_o christ_n say_v he_o will_v give_v his_o flesh_n mean_v any_o other_o gift_n than_o god_n his_o father_n do_v always_o give_v except_o he_o refer_v his_o give_v to_o the_o time_n of_o his_o passion_n the_o fruit_n whereof_o be_v and_o be_v give_v unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n that_o the_o bread_n which_o christ_n give_v be_v true_a under_o a_o figure_n that_o be_v the_o form_n of_o bread_n fulfil_v the_o figure_n of_o manna_n be_v a_o dream_n of_o sanders_n own_o head_n for_o christ_n speak_v not_o of_o any_o give_n under_o a_o figure_n or_o form_n of_o bread_n or_o of_o give_v the_o bread_n of_o his_o supper_n but_o of_o the_o general_a food_n of_o eternal_a life_n which_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o all_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o which_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o eternal_a life_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v out_o of_o measure_n absurd_a that_o saunder_n will_v prove_v his_o figurative_a form_n by_o irenaeus_n which_o say_v that_o the_o eucharistie_n consist_v of_o two_o thing_n of_o one_o earthly_a which_o be_v the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o other_o heavenly_a &c_n &c_n irenaeus_n say_v not_o that_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o earthly_a part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o deed_n for_o those_o external_a form_n or_o accident_n be_v not_o any_o earthly_a thing_n which_o be_v a_o substantial_a matter_n irenaeus_n say_v of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n our_o body_n be_v increase_v and_o nourish_v so_o can_v they_o not_o 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