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A85048 Some necessary & seasonable cases of conscience about things indifferent in matters of religion, briefly, yet faithfully stated [a]nd resolved wherein the the [sic] just bounds of imposing on one hand, and of obeying on the other, are truly fixed, / by an indifferent hand. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1661 (1661) Wing F2517; Thomason E2270_1; ESTC R209648 43,257 226

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