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reg._n cap._n 8._o thus_o express_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o doâ—_n what_o solomon_n do_v because_o though_o it_o be_v forbid_v to_o offer_v sacrifice_n elsewhere_o then_o at_o the_o altar_n of_o whole_a burnt-offering_n yet_o now_o upon_o necessity_n it_o may_v be_v when_o the_o altar_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o hold_v all_o nor_o do_v solomon_n against_o the_o law_n because_o now_o sacrifice_n be_v burn_v at_o the_o altar_n and_o on_o the_o altar_n together_o and_o so_o the_o whole_a court_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n but_o as_o one_o altar_n and_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o law_n be_v no_o other_o then_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o offer_v in_o divers_a place_n but_o here_o be_v but_o one_o continue_a place_n locis_fw-la licinâ—â—_n fuit_fw-la quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d solomon_n quia_fw-la licet_fw-la prohibitum_fw-la asset_fw-la ofâ—erri_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la alibi_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la holâ—caustorum_n tamen_fw-la nunc_fw-la ex_fw-la necessitate_v licuit_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la possint_fw-la capi_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la super_fw-la altar_n etiam_fw-la non_fw-la videbaturagi_n contra_fw-la legem_fw-la quia_fw-la nunc_fw-la cremebantur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la apud_fw-la altar_n &_o simul_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la &_o â—ic_fw-la videbatur_fw-la totum_fw-la atrium_n sacerdoâ—â—m_fw-la esse_fw-la tanquam_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n intentio_fw-la autem_fw-la legis_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la offerrerentur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la locis_fw-la sect_n 22._o concern_v synogogue_n to_o this_o simple_a instance_n the_o reply_o answer_v 1._o that_o synagogue_n be_v no_o significant_a ceremony_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v most_o likely_a they_o be_v first_o found_v by_o those_o prophet_n which_o bring_v in_o school_n of_o the_o prophet_n 3._o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v of_o old_a no_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n use_v to_o the_o first_o be_v rejoin_v that_o the_o synagogue_n bear_v some_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n but_o i_o ask_v how_o be_v this_o representation_n in_o matter_n or_o form_n or_o use_v he_o seem_v to_o refer_v it_o unto_o use_n in_o resort_v to_o solemn_a worship_n now_o let_v any_o man_n consider_v whether_o every_o place_n appoint_v for_o solemn_a worship_n be_v a_o significant_a ceremony_n if_o so_o than_o no_o anabaptist_n ever_o deny_v significant_a ceremony_n of_o mansappoint_v which_o yet_o the_o rejoynderaccuse_v they_o for_o but_o this_o fond_a conceit_n be_v sufficient_o confute_v in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o writing_n chap._n 4._o and_o 5._o yet_o suppose_v the_o synagogue_n have_v be_v a_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n which_o be_v a_o ceremony_n be_v every_o representation_n of_o a_o ceremony_n a_o new_a ceremony_n then_o any_o man_n may_v make_v more_o ceremony_n than_o there_o be_v man_n in_o his_o parish_n the_o second_o about_o the_o sound_n of_o synagogue_n by_o prophet_n which_o the_o repl._n say_v be_v most_o likely_a the_o rejoynder_n make_v a_o bold_a affirmation_n without_o proof_n but_o what_o boldness_n be_v in_o conjecture_v that_o to_o be_v likely_a which_o no_o man_n can_v give_v any_o likely_a reason_n against_o the_o three_o of_o no_o humane_a significant_a ceremony_n use_v in_o synagogue_n be_v absolute_o pronounce_v false_a but_o no_o reason_n of_o this_o sentence_n be_v give_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n but_o only_o that_o they_o use_v there_o reverend_a gesture_n as_o if_o all_o reverend_a gesture_n be_v significant_a ceremony_n of_o man_n invention_n the_o rest_n that_o he_o quote_v out_o of_o purchas_n his_o pilgrimage_n be_v wander_a pilgrim_n without_o house_n or_o home_n and_o therefore_o worthy_a no_o other_o answer_n but_o that_o which_o our_o law_n have_v provide_v for_o vagabond_n sect_n 23.24.25.26_o concern_v love-feast_n 1._o the_o instance_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v such_o as_o we_o have_v now_o show_v they_o to_o be_v out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n first_o be_v bring_v in_o the_o feast_n of_o love_n or_o charity_n now_o concern_v these_o feast_n no_o man_n can_v certain_o inform_v we_o who_o do_v appoint_v they_o i_o mervayl_v say_v the_o apostle_n according_a to_o erasmus_n his_o paraphrase_n on_o 1._o cor._n 11._o quis_fw-la ritus_fw-la istos_fw-la iâ—_n vos_fw-la invexerit_fw-la who_o brought-in_a these_o love-feast_n no_o man_n can_v tell_v we_o what_o religious_a signification_n be_v by_o institution_n annex_v unto_o they_o nay_o it_o can_v be_v show_v where_o they_o be_v speak_v of_o without_o reproof_n yet_o the_o defend_n and_o rejoynd_v will_v needs_o have_v they_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n ordain_v and_o use_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2._o to_o this_o it_o be_v 1._o answer_v by_o m_n r._n nic._n that_o if_o they_o be_v of_o apostolical_a than_o they_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n then_o which_o say_v the_o defender_n he_o can_v not_o have_v utter_v a_o more_o unlearned_a position_n nay_o soft_a it_o be_v reply_v this_o censure_n be_v too_o too_o magisterial_a because_o to_o say_v that_o that_o which_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o apostle_n come_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v no_o unlearned_a position_n o_o yes_o answer_v the_o rejoynder_n because_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v some_o thing_n not_o as_o apostle_n not_o by_o immediate_a revelation_n but_o by_o the_o direction_n and_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n in_o which_o kind_n of_o rejoyn_v i_o see_v no_o more_o learning_n than_o needs_o must_v 1._o the_o quaestion_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o answer_n be_v of_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n do_v but_o not_o as_o apostle_n that_o be_v not_o proper_o apostolical_a 2._o that_o which_o be_v manifest_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shine_v â—n_o the_o word_n they_o be_v the_o rejoynder_n his_o word_n be_v deâ—ied_v to_o be_v divine_a 3._o no_o example_n be_v or_o can_v be_v bring_v of_o a_o new_a significant_a ceremony_n institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n without_o immediate_a revelation_n the_o allegation_n oppose_v may_v fill_v up_o paper_n but_o not_o satisfy_v any_o reasonable_a reader_n 3._o for_o remove_v of_o that_o magisterial_a censure_n of_o the_o â—reat_a unlearnednesse_n of_o the_o foresaid_a position_n it_o be_v noâ—ed_v that_o some_o learned_a man_n be_v author_n of_o it_o or_o partaker_n in_o it_o junius_n be_v one_o who_o cont._n 1._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o a_o 6_o â—ayth_o that_o this_o distinction_n betwixt_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a tradition_n be_v almost_o imaginary_a and_o superfluous_a where_o â—he_v rejoynder_n have_v nothing_o to_o catch_v at_o but_o only_o that_o particle_n almost_o take_v therefore_o another_o place_n of_o the_o same_o â—unius_fw-la in_o his_o hidelberg_n thesis_n the_o traditionibus_fw-la the_o 24_o where_o without_o almost_o he_o say_v full_o thus_o the_o distinction_n of_o tradition_n into_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a be_v a_o false_a distinction_n because_o such_o tradition_n be_v of_o one_o sort_n for_o there_o be_v no_o apostolical_a tradition_n but_o such_o as_o be_v deliver_v from_o god_n traditâ—_n falsò_fw-la divinae_fw-la traditiones_fw-la aâ—_n apostolicis_fw-la distinguuntur_fw-la quae_fw-la unum_fw-la reipsa_fw-la sunt_fw-la nam_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la nullae_fw-la sunt_fw-la nisi_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la traditâ—_n 4._o it_o be_v add_v also_o by_o the_o reply_o that_o danaeus_n upon_o the_o same_o place_n call_v it_o a_o childish_a distribution_n true_o say_v the_o rejoynd_a but_o he_o mean_v by_o apostolical_a thing_n determine_v by_o the_o apostle_n by_o their_o ordinary_a faculty_n as_o pastor_n and_o yet_o have_v the_o same_o authority_n with_o their_o writing_n now_o let_v the_o reader_n mark_n that_o the_o defender_n his_o charge_n of_o unlearned_a rudeness_n depend_v on_o this_o if_o apostolical_a tradition_n may_v be_v call_v divine_a as_o be_v command_v of_o god_n to_o talk_v here_o of_o faculty_n ordinary_a pastor_n authority_n equal_a to_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n 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mean_n of_o worship_n and_o moses_n as_o be_v here_o suppose_a institute_v all_o such_o mean_n of_o worship_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o god_n will_v have_v institute_v it_o follow_v that_o the_o faithfulness_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o so_o extend_v to_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n as_o moses_n his_o faithfulness_n be_v 8._o concern_v faithfulness_n in_o ritual_a ordinance_n the_o def._n mention_v the_o ordain_v of_o two_o essential_a and_o necessary_a sacrament_n which_o allegation_n the_o replier_n esteem_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n yes_o very_o say_v the_o rejoynder_n it_o be_v some_o thing_n it_o be_v in_o deed_n something_o but_o this_o something_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o perteyn_a to_o mere_a ritual_n for_o so_o the_o defend_n and_o rejoynder_n both_o confess_v express_o that_o these_o two_o sacrament_n be_v not_o mere_a ritual_n 9_o the_o def._n add_v that_o as_o moses_n appoint_v ceremony_n so_o christ_n remove_v they_o which_o explication_n of_o 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a_o fashion_n answer_v the_o first_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n there_o speak_v only_o of_o jewish_a rite_n which_o be_v bellarmine_n answer_n just_a de_fw-fr eff_fw-mi sacr_n c._n 32._o loquor_fw-la paulus_n de_fw-la servitute_fw-la judaica_n qua_fw-la servierant_fw-la illi_fw-la sub_fw-la antiqua_fw-la lege_fw-la the_o second_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n be_v of_o such_o a_o observation_n of_o these_o ceremony_n as_o have_v a_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n overthrow_v the_o new_a testament_n and_o establish_v the_o old_a so_o bellarmin_n ibid._n illi_fw-la cum_fw-la circumcidi_fw-la vellent_fw-la excidebant_fw-la à _fw-la gratia_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o simul_fw-la obligabant_fw-la fe_o ad_fw-la omnem_fw-la legem_fw-la servandam_fw-la quod_fw-la prorsus_fw-la erat_fw-la redire_fw-la ad_fw-la statum_fw-la veteris_fw-la testamâ—nti_fw-la we_o on_o the_o other_o side_n with_o danaeus_n against_o thaâ—_n place_n of_o bell._n say_v generale_fw-mi est_fw-fr 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