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A77729 An answer to those questions propounded by the Parliament to the Assembly of Divines, touching jus divinum in matter of church-government. Wherein is clearly proved from Scripture, that the Presbyterial government is jure devino, of divine institution, and according to the will and appointment of Jesus Christ. Licensed, and published according to order. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1646 (1646) Wing B526A; Thomason E340_29; ESTC R38569 17,260 20

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