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word_n	apostle_n	church_n	elder_n	3,592	5	9.6069	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90287	A review of the true nature of schisme, with a vindication of the Congregationall churches in England, from the imputation thereof unjustly charged on them by Mr D. Cawdrey, preacher of the Word at Billing in Northampton-shire. / By John Owen D.D.	Owen, John, 1616-1683.	1657 (1657)	Wing O803; Thomason E1664_1; ESTC R203102	68,239	187

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