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A34675 A defence of Mr. John Cotton from the imputation of selfe contradiction, charged on him by Mr. Dan. Cavvdrey written by himselfe not long before his death ; whereunto is prefixed, an answer to a late treatise of the said Mr. Cavvdrey about the nature of schisme, by John Owen ... Cotton, John, 1584-1652.; Owen, John, 1616-1683. Of schisme. 1658 (1658) Wing C6427; ESTC R2830 62,631 184

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key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n the_o way_n pag._n 1._o that_o be_v a_o combination_n of_o faithful_a man_n as_o mr._n hooker_n 2._o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a whether_o join_v to_o any_o particular_a church_n or_o no_o the_o key_n pag._n 11._o 2_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n be_v give_v not_o only_o to_o the_o church_n but_o to_o some_o before_o they_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n keyes_n pag._n 2._o ans._n this_o term_n the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n be_v take_v from_o our_o saviour_n word_n in_o luk._n 11._o 52._o where_o he_o reprove_v the_o lawyer_n who_o have_v take_v away_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n and_o neither_o enter_v in_o themselves_o nor_o suffer_v other_o to_o enter_v the_o word_n argue_v that_o the_o enter_n in_o be_v not_o into_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o into_o that_o the_o lawyer_n have_v enter_v and_o be_v willing_a to_o admit_v other_o he_o speak_v therefore_o of_o enter_v into_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n and_o so_o into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o grace_n and_o glory_n the_o solution_n than_o be_v plain_a and_o easy_a the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n or_o faith_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a whether_o join_v to_o any_o particular_a church_n or_o no_o for_o by_o it_o they_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o grace_n and_o glory_n but_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o key_n of_o a_o particular_a visible_a church_n they_o be_v all_o give_v to_o the_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o believer_n touch_v the_o three_o contradiction_n the_o three_o contradiction_n be_v decipher_v thus_o 3._o the_o key_n of_o order_n be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n key_n pag._n 8._o then_o say_v we_o to_o woman_n and_o child_n 3_o it_o be_v not_o every_o place_n or_o order_n in_o the_o church_n that_o give_v power_n to_o receive_v ordinance_n much_o less_o to_o dispense_v they_o as_o child_n and_o woman_n way_n clear_v part_n 2._o pag._n 19_o ans._n 1._o it_o have_v be_v answer_v above_o that_o such_o general_n proposition_n hold_v true_a notwithstanding_o some_o know_a particular_a exception_n it_o be_v appoint_v to_o all_o man_n once_o to_o die_v which_o be_v a_o undoubted_a truth_n though_o enoch_n and_o elias_n never_o die_v ans._n 2._o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v in_o order_n to_o baptism_n but_o exclude_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 28._o woman_n have_v some_o part_n of_o the_o key_n of_o order_n whereby_o they_o have_v power_n to_o walk_v orderly_o themselves_o and_o in_o a_o private_a way_n to_o help_v other_o to_o walk_v orderly_o also_o act._n 18._o 26._o tit._n 2._o 3_o 4_o 5._o only_o they_o have_v not_o power_n to_o admit_v member_n choose_v officer_n censure_v offender_n but_o if_o they_o have_v any_o part_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n the_o proposition_n be_v true_a yea_o and_o it_o be_v true_a also_o though_o they_o have_v be_v keep_v from_o all_o interest_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o key_n touch_v the_o four_o contradiction_n the_o four_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o lay_v out_o 4._o ordination_n be_v a_o work_n of_o rule_n the_o way_n pag._n 49._o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n both_o act_n of_o rule_n pertain_v indifferent_o to_o all_o the_o presbyter_n ibid._n pag._n 49._o 4._o as_o for_o election_n and_o ordination_n of_o officer_n these_o thing_n the_o brethren_n may_v do_v if_o need_v be_v without_o officer_n the_o way_n pag._n 45._o 101._o 4._o ordination_n be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n but_o of_o order_n rather_o hooker_n survey_n part_n 2._o 75._o ans._n ordination_n they_o that_o make_v the_o least_o of_o it_o make_v it_o a_o act_n of_o prayer_n and_o such_o prayer_n by_o which_o the_o less_o be_v bless_v of_o the_o great_a as_o it_o be_v in_o all_o prayer_n which_o be_v join_v with_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o argue_v it_o be_v a_o act_n of_o majority_n of_o power_n and_o majority_n of_o power_n may_v without_o a_o solecism_n be_v call_v rule_n though_o not_o office-rule_n yet_o honourable_a pre-eminence_n i_o nowhere_o call_v it_o a_o act_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n which_o be_v that_o mr_n hooker_n deny_v and_o seem_v to_o deny_v it_o not_o positive_o neither_o but_o comparative_o rather_o ordination_n say_v he_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n but_o of_o order_n rather_o then_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n here_o nor_o will_v it_o be_v find_v in_o the_o other_o clause_n for_o though_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v say_v in_o the_o way_n pag_n 49._o to_o pertain_v indifferent_o to_o all_o the_o presbyter_n yet_o that_o be_v express_o speak_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o lord_n bishop_n who_o usurp_v both_o into_o their_o own_o hand_n as_o their_o peculiar_a prerogative_n and_o though_o i_o say_v else_o where_o in_o the_o way_n that_o in_o election_n and_o ordination_n of_o officer_n the_o brethren_n may_v act_v if_o need_v be_v without_o officer_n yet_o the_o very_a word_n of_o limitation_n if_o need_v be_v argue_v that_o in_o ordinary_a case_n ordination_n pertain_v to_o the_o presbyter_n as_o other_o act_n there_o mention_v do_v pertain_v to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o brethren_n meet_v together_o but_o as_o for_o election_n i_o take_v it_o to_o pertain_v principal_o to_o the_o brethren_n touch_v the_o 5_o contradiction_n the_o 5_o contradiction_n follow_v in_o this_o sort_n 5._o the_o key_n of_o authority_n or_o rule_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o the_o act_n of_o rule_n be_v the_o proper_a act_n of_o their_o office_n key_n pag._n 20._o the_o people_n discern_v and_o approve_v the_o justice_n of_o the_o censure_n give_v consent_n and_o obedience_n to_o the_o will_n and_o rule_n of_o christ_n key_n pag._n 15._o 37._o 41._o the_o people_n stand_v in_o a_o order_n even_o a_o orderly_a subjection_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n pag._n 11._o 5._o in_o case_n the_o officer_n do_v err_v and_o give_v 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