pope_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v legal_a pope_n ans._n farewell_o the_o papacy_n then_o and_o yet_o must_v we_o be_v burn_v for_o not_o be_v their_o subject_n 1._o then_o it_o seem_v that_o election_n and_o consecration_n make_v they_o not_o pope_n at_o all_o before_o the_o 4._o church_n acceptance_n and_o sure_o that_o never_o make_v they_o such_o afterward_o 2._o then_o we_o have_v no_o pope_n now_o most_o of_o the_o church_n abassine_n copty_v armenian_n syrian_n greek_n moscovite_n protestant_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v two_o to_o one_o be_v against_o the_o papacy_n 3._o and_o then_o eugenius_n the_o four_o and_o other_o disow_v and_o damn_v by_o general_a council_n your_o own_o church_n representatives_n be_v no_o pope_n next_o he_o say_v that_o the_o abuse_n of_o election_n come_v from_o mingle_v lay-authority_n with_o church-government_n 5._o which_o be_v out_o of_o their_o sphere_n now_o this_o abuse_n be_v much_o consonant_n with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o protestant_n so_o that_o those_o for_o the_o most_o part_n who_o conform_v their_o practice_n according_a to_o the_o protestant_n principle_n introduce_v this_o abuse_n into_o thâ—…_n pope_n election_n ans._n reader_n what_o do_v this_o man_n deserve_v for_o thus_o murder_v the_o papal_a cause_n 1._o our_o question_n be_v not_o who_o it_o be_v long_o of_o thâ—…_n they_o have_v no_o true_a lawful_a pope_n for_o a_o long_a time_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o true_a and_o their_o succession_n interrupt_v 2._o and_o be_v he_o worthy_a to_o be_v account_v a_o man_n that_o ever_o read_v church-history_n that_o know_v not_o that_o before_o there_o be_v any_o christian_a emperor_n the_o laity_n with_o the_o presbyter_n choose_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o all_o other_o bishop_n so_o then_o if_o this_o be_v the_o abuse_n the_o first_o and_o ancient_a way_n be_v the_o abuse_n which_o their_o innovation_n rectify_v and_o who_o know_v not_o what_o power_n the_o emperor_n use_v from_o 320_o till_o 1000_o year_n in_o dispose_v of_o all_o the_o patriarchal_a seat_n and_o see_v cardinal_n be_v the_o new_a way_n of_o election_n be_v not_o the_o new_a like_a to_o be_v the_o abuse_n 3._o but_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n special_o to_o note_v that_o this_o man_n confess_v that_o pope_n be_v former_o choose_v according_a to_o protestant_a principle_n and_o that_o their_o present_a way_n be_v a_o reformation_n of_o the_o protestant_a way_n as_o abusive_a and_o who_o then_o be_v the_o innovator_n and_o the_o culpable_a reformer_n even_o hildebrand_n greg._n 7._o after_o bloody_a war_n against_o the_o emperor_n and_o the_o perjury_n that_o he_o have_v involve_v a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o clergy_n in_o and_o yet_o they_o will_v persuade_v man_n that_o it_o be_v our_o principle_n and_o reformation_n that_o be_v new_a and_o they_o be_v the_o old_a way_n 4._o we_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o own_o that_o the_o protestant_a principle_n do_v assert_v the_o power_n of_o christian_a prince_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n so_o far_o as_o the_o sword_n be_v therein_o to_o interpose_v which_o bishop_n bilson_n of_o chris._n subjection_n have_v well_o open_v and_o the_o power_n of_o the_o people_n in_o consent_v to_o their_o pastor_n and_o that_o we_o abhor_v their_o force_a prince_n to_o be_v their_o executioner_n r._n b._n be_v consecration_n necessary_a and_o by_o who_o ad_fw-la esse_fw-la 6._o w._n j._n it_o be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a ad_fw-la esse_fw-la r._n b._n if_o consecration_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o papacy_n than_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o this_o or_o that_o man_n consecrate_v he_o more_o than_o another_o and_o than_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o a_o bishop_n and_o then_o the_o want_n of_o it_o make_v no_o interruption_n in_o any_o church_n any_o more_o than_o in_o you_o w._n j._n neither_o papal_a nor_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n as_o all_o the_o learned_a know_v depend_v of_o episcopal_n or_o papal_a ordination_n nor_o be_v there_o ever_o interruption_n in_o succession_n in_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n in_o any_o see_v 7._o for_o want_v of_o that_o alone_a that_o be_v necessary_a for_o consecrate_v other_o valid_o and_o not_o for_o jurisdiction_n over_o they_o r._n b._n what_o multiply_v self-destroying_a answer_n be_v you_o drive_v to_o 1._o see_v here_o reader_n how_o short_a a_o solution_n you_o have_v from_o themselves_o of_o all_o their_o old_a objection_n about_o the_o bishop_n ordination_n at_o the_o nag_n head-tayern_a in_o cheapside_n and_o the_o interruption_n of_o our_o succession_n and_o nullity_n of_o our_o priesthood_n now_o you_o see_v that_o jurisdiction_n depend_v not_o on_o ordination_n but_o may_v be_v without_o it_o their_o pope_n and_o bishop_n may_v have_v all_o their_o ecclesiastical_a government_n though_o they_o be_v layman_n and_o may_v not_o parish-priest_n have_v so_o also_o over_o the_o people_n these_o papist_n be_v more_o kind_a to_o the_o protestant-churche_n that_o have_v not_o episcopal_a ordination_n than_o some_o call_a protestant_n in_o this_o age_n be_v want_v of_o ordination_n null_v not_o their_o government_n but_o for_o my_o part_n i_o will_v the_o church_n have_v never_o know_v any_o such_o jurisdiction_n as_o be_v neither_o the_o magistrate_n by_o the_o sword_n nor_o give_v by_o ordinaion_n to_o the_o pastor_n call_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n at_o least_o i_o think_v that_o it_o have_v be_v necessary_a to_o pope_n and_o prelate_n that_o they_o be_v priest_n if_o some_o as_o senior_n among_o presbyter_n may_v be_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o rest_n as_o a_o abbot_n among_o monk_n yet_o sure_o he_o must_v be_v a_o presbyter_n or_o monk_n himself_n i_o take_v the_o priestly_a office_n or_o ministry_n to_o be_v essentiate_v by_o a_o subordination_n to_o christ_n in_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o three_o part_n of_o his_o office_n ministerial_o viz._n to_o be_v sub-teacher_n sub-rectors_a and_o subpriest_n to_o guide_v the_o people_n in_o god_n worship_n if_o ordination_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o jurisdiction_n a_o presumptuous_a word_n for_o clergyman_n then_o either_o such_o unordained_a bishop_n may_v ordain_v or_o not_o if_o not_o they_o be_v no_o bishop_n what_o be_v their_o jurisdiction_n if_o yea_o than_o they_o may_v give_v that_o which_o they_o never_o have_v and_o layman_n may_v ordain_v and_o may_v not_o ordain_v presbyter_n ordain_v much_o more_o one_o will_v think_v that_o the_o read_n of_o voetius_fw-la against_o jansenius_n de_fw-fr desperata_fw-la causa_fw-la papatus_fw-la have_v drive_v this_o man_n to_o these_o desperate_a answer_n but_o he_o be_v aware_a that_o some_o pope_n have_v be_v unordain_v man_n he_o have_v no_o other_o shift_n join_v to_o this_o what_o dr._n stillingfleet_n after_o other_o have_v full_o prove_v that_o the_o order_n give_v by_o schismatic_n and_o heretic_n be_v valid_a in_o the_o opinion_n of_o their_o doctor_n and_o you_o will_v see_v that_o their_o talk_n against_o the_o english_a ministry_n be_v such_o as_o the_o man_n do_v not_o believe_v themselves_o r._n b._n q._n 3._o what_o notice_n or_o proof_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o subject_n 8._o w._n j._n so_o much_o as_o be_v necessary_a to_o oblige_v subject_n to_o accept_v of_o other_o elect_a prince_n to_o be_v their_o sovereign_n r._n b._n 1._o but_o what_o that_o be_v you_o will_v not_o tell_v we_o 2._o but_o if_o this_o be_v so_o it_o must_v be_v so_o much_o as_o suffice_v to_o the_o subject_n to_o distinguish_v he_o from_o usurper_n or_o else_o king_n and_o usurper_n must_v be_v equal_o obey_v and_o if_o so_o then_o 1._o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n abassine_n and_o the_o rest_n before_o name_v have_v no_o such_o notice_n of_o your_o pope_n it_o be_v many_o age_n before_o the_o abassine_n hear_v of_o he_o 2._o and_o greek_n and_o protestant_n have_v no_o such_o notice_n nay_o you_o tell_v no_o man_n which_o way_n he_o shall_v have_v it_o when_o neither_o any_o one_o way_n of_o election_n nor_o any_o consecration_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o office_n 3._o and_o then_o what_o notice_n have_v man_n in_o the_o long_a schism_n which_o be_v the_o true_a pope_n but_o note_n reader_n that_o a_o kingdom_n be_v so_o narrow_a a_o space_n that_o notice_n may_v be_v give_v to_o all_o the_o subject_n who_o be_v their_o true_a king_n but_o the_o earth_n be_v so_o great_a and_o so_o much_o of_o it_o unknown_a and_o so_o few_o ever_o sail_v about_o it_o since_o the_o creation_n and_o those_o few_o see_v so_o few_o of_o the_o inhabitant_n that_o very_o it_o be_v a_o hard_a matter_n to_o satisfy_v all_o the_o world_n who_o be_v the_o true_a pope_n and_o that_o he_o be_v true_o elect_v and_o be_v no_o usurper_n and_o on_o these_o term_n it_o be_v but_o little_a of_o the_o world_n that_o be_v oblige_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o now_o reader_n if_o this_o man_n have_v
of_o the_o presbyter_n where_o there_o be_v any_o under_o they_o and_o so_o think_v your_o own_o bishop_n for_o above_o 600_o year_n even_o when_o gregory_n one_a write_v his_o epistle_n but_o if_o you_o have_v assert_v that_o it_o will_v do_v more_o to_o unpope_n and_o unbishop_n your_o church_n than_o to_o disprove_v we_o but_o he_o say_v that_o the_o capitula_fw-la have_v the_o power_n of_o elect_a bishop_n and_o of_o constitute_v parish-priest_n in_o such_o place_n as_o want_v they_o ans._n 1._o suppose_v they_o have_v you_o say_v no_o particular_a elector_n act_n be_v necessary_a ad_fw-la esse_fw-la and_o why_o they_o 2._o but_o quo_fw-la jure_fw-la by_o what_o right_n can_v one_o dean_n and_o chapter_n of_o a_o city_n elect_v a_o overseer_n of_o many_o hundred_o parish-priest_n and_o many_o score_n or_o hundred_o thousand_o soul_n without_o their_o consent_n you_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o god_n give_v they_o that_o power_n and_o if_o man_n do_v it_o what_o man_n be_v they_o if_o you_o say_v that_o they_o be_v man_n that_o have_v more_o power_n in_o england_n than_o the_o king_n parliament_n and_o the_o consent_a people_n you_o must_v prove_v it_o if_o you_o lay_v it_o on_o any_o foreign_a power_n pope_n and_o council_n we_o will_v deny_v their_o power_n here_o and_o herein_o what_o man_n do_v man_n may_v undo_v 3._o but_o indeed_o your_o mere_a capitular_a election_n be_v null_a and_o contrary_a to_o god_n word_n and_o the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n by_o god_n word_n the_o consent_n of_o the_o flock_n and_o of_o the_o ordainer_n and_o of_o the_o ordain_v make_v a_o pastor_n bishop_n or_o presbyter_n by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o empire_n sometime_o the_o great_a neighbour-bishop_n assume_v the_o power_n and_o sometime_o council_n overtop_v they_o all_o and_o undo_v what_o they_o do_v and_o sometime_o the_o emperor_n put_v in_o and_o out_o as_o please_v they_o as_o solomon_n put_v out_o abiathar_n but_o always_o the_o people_n election_n or_o acceptance_n be_v necessary_a for_o instance_n when_o gregory_n nazianzen_n have_v confute_v the_o macedonian_n and_o arrian_n and_o increase_v the_o church_n at_o constantinople_n though_o the_o arrian_n bishop_n since_o valens_n time_n keep_v the_o great_a church_n gregory_n have_v a_o little_a one_o and_o be_v choose_v their_o bishop_n by_o the_o orthodox_n people_n alone_o this_o be_v his_o first_o title_n after_o that_o peter_z bishop_n of_o alexandria_n make_v he_o bishop_n quantum_fw-la in_o se_fw-la or_o confirm_v he_o this_o be_v his_o additional_a title_n after_o this_o the_o same_z peter_z bribe_v by_o money_n without_o recall_v his_o former_a grant_n make_v maximus_n a_o right_n seeker_n of_o a_o bishopric_n as_o the_o world_n have_v since_o go_v bishop_n in_o his_o stead_n the_o people_n refuse_v the_o change_n and_o retain_v gregory_n afterwards_o maximus_n get_v both_o peter_n and_o the_o egyptian_a bishop_n to_o make_v he_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n where_o be_v the_o pope_n all_o this_o while_n the_o people_n still_o keep_v close_o to_o gregory_n afterwards_o theodosius_n the_o emperor_n return_v from_o the_o west_n put_v gregory_n in_o possession_n of_o the_o great_a church_n and_o turn_v out_o the_o arrian_n and_o confirm_v he_o bishop_n after_o this_o miletius_n of_o antioch_n and_o a_o council_n at_o constantinople_n make_v gregory_n bishop_n after_o this_o more_o bishop_n come_v in_o to_o the_o council_n get_v the_o major_a vote_n and_o he_o discern_v that_o they_o be_v resolve_v to_o depose_v he_o depart_v request_v the_o emperor_n leave_n as_o see_v the_o doleful_a division_n and_o contentiousness_n of_o the_o bishop_n not_o otherwise_o to_o be_v quiet_v entreat_v the_o emperor_n to_o keep_v they_o in_o some_o unity_n and_o peace_n lest_o it_o shall_v disgrace_v and_o ruin_v the_o new_o reform_a church_n and_o the_o council_n judgement_n make_v nectarius_n bishop_n the_o pope_n in_o all_o this_o never_o mind_v by_o this_o one_o instance_n you_o may_v see_v how_o bishop_n be_v then_o make_v in_o the_o great_a place_n though_o in_o lesser_a the_o election_n of_o the_o people_n and_o presbyter_n and_o the_o ordination_n of_o three_o neighbour-bishop_n do_v suffice_v according_a to_o the_o ancient_a rule_n and_o custom_n but_o he_o say_v that_o the_o old_a bishop_n be_v live_v and_o not_o legal_o depose_v ans._n 1._o sub_fw-la judicelis_fw-la est_fw-la we_o say_v they_o be_v 2._o some_o desert_v 3._o a_o illegal_a removal_n of_o the_o former_a do_v not_o ever_o nullisie_a the_o title_n of_o the_o latter_a viz._n when_o the_o flock_n consent_v to_o the_o change_n etc._n etc._n else_o what_o seat_n be_v there_o that_o have_v not_o have_v their_o succession_n interrupt_v and_o corrupt_v but_o none_o more_o than_o rome_n and_o constantinople_n and_o alexandria_n what_o poison_n fight_n unjust_a deposition_n and_o schism_n have_v make_v way_n for_o succession_n be_v your_o papacy_n therefore_o null_a but_o methinks_v it_o be_v a_o strange_a novelty_n that_o he_o make_v the_o capitula_fw-la to_o have_v have_v the_o right_n of_o choose_v not_o only_o the_o bishop_n but_o all_o the_o parish-priest_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o the_o patron_n or_o the_o 9_o prince_n power_n which_o i_o think_v be_v as_o good_a as_o the_o chapter_n who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o people_n do_v always_o choose_v the_o presbyter_n and_o not_o the_o chapter_n but_o he_o say_v that_o they_o be_v intrude_v by_o seculor_n power_n ans._n and_o be_v not_o your_o pope_n so_o ordinary_o till_o hildebrand_n get_v the_o better_a of_o the_o emperor_n but_o we_o have_v more_o than_o this_o r._n b._n your_o pope_n have_v not_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o most_o of_o the_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n nor_o for_o aught_o you_o or_o any_o man_n know_v of_o most_o in_o europe_n 10._o w._n j._n of_o what_o christian_n such_o as_o you_o and_o your_o associate_n be_v we_o regard_v that_o no_o more_o than_o do_v the_o ancient_a holy_a pope_n not_o to_o have_v bad_a the_o consent_n of_o the_o nestorian_n eutychian_o pelagian_n donatist_n arrian_n etc._n etc._n r._n b._n contempt_n of_o most_o of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v one_o of_o the_o great_a proof_n that_o you_o be_v all_o the_o church_n and_o do_v not_o the_o donatist_n say_v the_o same_o before_o you_o and_o what_o but_o the_o sword_n do_v make_v your_o cause_n to_o be_v better_a than_o they_o how_o easy_a be_v it_o for_o any_o sect_n to_o say_v we_o be_v the_o only_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o though_o most_o of_o the_o christian_a world_n be_v against_o we_o we_o regard_v they_o not_o reader_n mark_v the_o truth_n and_o câ—…ndor_n of_o these_o man_n when_o we_o tell_v they_o that_o the_o greek_n armenian_n syrian_n jacobite_n georgian_n copty_v abassine_n be_v of_o the_o same_o church_n with_o we_o because_o they_o have_v the_o same_o head_n and_o the_o same_o essential_a faith_n the_o papist_n in_o their_o talk_n and_o write_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o be_v more_o of_o their_o mind_n than_o of_o we_o and_o that_o indeed_o they_o be_v not_o heretic_n but_o well-meaning-man_n but_o when_o we_o tell_v they_o then_o how_o two_o or_o three_o part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v against_o their_o pope_n pretend_v universal_a power_n they_o number_v all_o these_o then_o with_o heretic_n as_o not_o to_o be_v regard_v but_o abundance_n of_o their_o own_o writer_n yea_o such_o as_o have_v live_v among_o they_o at_o jerusalem_n and_o other_o part_n do_v vindicate_v the_o generality_n of_o these_o foreign_a christian_n from_o the_o charge_n of_o heresy_n 2._o but_o do_v not_o the_o world_n know_v that_o a_o man_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v rightful_a pope_n as_o soon_o as_o the_o cardinal_n a_o upstart_n sort_n of_o thing_n have_v choose_v he_o before_o ever_o any_o of_o the_o people_n of_o europe_n even_a papist_n do_v consent_n but_o perhaps_o he_o will_v say_v that_o the_o people_n consent_n that_o these_o shall_v be_v the_o chooser_n sure_o they_o do_v not_o so_o till_o hildebrand_n day_n nor_o since_o any_o otherwise_o than_o by_o silence_n or_o nonresistance_n where_o they_o have_v no_o place_n to_o speak_v nor_o power_n to_o resist_v even_o as_o the_o countryman_n consent_v to_o the_o conquer_a army_n that_o oppress_v they_o r._n b._n it_o be_v few_o of_o your_o own_o people_n that_o know_v who_o be_v pope_n much_o less_o be_v call_v to_o consent_v till_o after_o 11._o he_o be_v settle_v in_o possession_n w._n j._n what_o then_o be_v not_o the_o same_o in_o all_o elective_a prince_n where_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o dominion_n be_v exceed_v large_a r._n b._n 1._o i_o confess_v when_o we_o have_v a_o elective_a king_n of_o all_o the_o world_n i_o have_v rather_o cardinal_n choose_v he_o at_o rome_n than_o all_o the_o world_n shall_v meet_v to_o choose_v he_o and_o if_o
must_v i_o tell_v you_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o the_o people_n of_o foreign_a land_n be_v this_o necessary_a to_o know_v a_o papist_n can_v i_o tell_v you_o that_o man_n be_v papist_n that_o profess_v subjection_n to_o the_o pope_n as_o the_o vice-christ_n unless_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o they_o be_v molinist_n or_o dominican_n franciscan_n benedictines_n jesuit_n jansenist_n etc._n etc._n their_o profession_n of_o christianity_n be_v notorious_a if_o you_o can_v prove_v they_o no_o christian_n do_v i_o suppose_v that_o one_o of_o twenty_o thousand_o of_o they_o never_o study_v the_o eutychian_a or_o nestorian_a controversy_n any_o more_o than_o those_o christian_n that_o die_v before_o these_o name_n and_o man_n be_v bear_v and_o i_o suppose_v that_o when_o these_o name_n come_v first_o up_o one_o pastor_n of_o a_o hundred_o may_v side_n with_o one_o of_o these_o sect_n which_o the_o age_n follow_v little_o mind_v as_o to_o any_o considerable_a number_n and_o i_o suppose_v that_o some_o that_o defend_v eutyches_n and_o nestorius_n know_v not_o what_o the_o heresy_n be_v and_o err_v not_o so_o gross_o as_o those_o jesuit_n do_v about_o murder_n adultery_n perjury_n etc._n etc._n who_o montaltus_n and_o the_o jesuit_n moral_n describe_v nor_o your_o common_a doctor_n cite_v by_o mr._n clarkson_n no_o nor_o so_o bad_a as_o the_o council_n of_o rome_n constance_n and_o basil_n say_v your_o pope_n have_v do_v nor_o as_o other_o of_o you_o say_v those_o council_n do_v no_o nor_o as_o the_o council_n at_o the_o lateran_n do_v in_o decree_a the_o extermination_n of_o all_o that_o you_o call_v heretic_n and_o the_o deposition_n of_o prince_n that_o will_v not_o exterminate_v they_o and_o the_o disoblige_a subject_n from_o their_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n but_o if_o this_o argue_v of_o you_o be_v good_a suppose_v it_o use_v with_o yourselves_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o you_o profess_v yourselves_o christian_n and_o papist_n tell_v we_o what_o other_o opinion_n you_o be_v of_o or_o else_o how_o can_v we_o know_v that_o you_o be_v christian_n but_o we_o be_v ashamed_a of_o such_o method_n when_o the_o law_n of_o nation_n bind_v all_o man_n beyond_o their_o profession_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v no_o traitor_n no_o thief_n fornicator_n liar_n etc._n etc._n then_o i_o may_v yield_v that_o man_n profess_v christianity_n must_v prove_v further_a that_o they_o be_v no_o heretic_n or_o invalidate_v not_o their_o own_o profession_n but_o yet_o i_o will_v not_o then_o grant_v you_o that_o any_o be_v oblige_v to_o prove_v this_o but_o themselves_o how_o can_v i_o prove_v such_o negative_n of_o million_o in_o the_o remote_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n if_o they_o can_v prove_v it_o of_o themselves_o call_v they_o to_o do_v it_o if_o you_o must_v have_v such_o negative_n prove_v but_o see_v that_o you_o call_v they_o one_o by_o one_o for_o my_o neighbour_n error_n prove_v not_o i_o if_o i_o be_v put_v to_o take_v you_o and_o all_o the_o papist_n in_o england_n for_o no_o christian_n unless_o i_o can_v prove_v you_o to_o be_v no_o sectary_n no_o heretic_n no_o traitor_n no_o drunkard_n perjure_a fornicator_n etc._n etc._n how_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o i_o to_o prove_v it_o by_o any_o one_o of_o you_o this_o be_v one_o difference_n it_o seem_v between_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o papal_a church-government_n and_o christ_n and_o perhaps_o this_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o rack_n and_o torment_n of_o the_o inquisition_n to_o make_v man_n confess_v what_o opinion_n they_o be_v of_o the_o answer_n to_o w._n j_n three_o chapter_n he_o begin_v that_o which_o he_o call_v his_o three_o chapter_n pap_n 88_o 89._o with_o again_o repeat_v his_o 1_o question_n thus_o be_v they_o all_o unite_a in_o the_o profession_n of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o unity_n of_o external_a communion_n without_o those_o two_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o be_v unite_v in_o christ._n answ._n i_o be_o afraid_a these_o repetition_n will_v tire_v the_o reader_n i_o have_v prove_v they_o unite_v in_o one_o faith_n even_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o in_o one_o external_n communion_n in_o much_o more_o of_o it_o than_o be_v essential_a to_o christianity_n viz._n in_o one_o baptism_n the_o lord_n supper_n prayer_n praise_n thanksgiving_n confession_n of_o sin_n preach_v and_o read_v the_o word_n of_o god_n observation_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n etc._n etc._n without_o differ_v in_o any_o thing_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o if_o by_o the_o ambiguous_a word_n of_o unity_n of_o external_n communion_n you_o shall_v mean_v either_o that_o they_o must_v meet_v all_o in_o one_o place_n or_o be_v all_o under_o one_o pastor_n these_o you_o before_o disow_v and_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o they_o must_v all_o have_v one_o book_n of_o liturgy_n you_o know_v that_o so_o have_v not_o your_o roman_a church_n of_o above_o 600_o year_n at_o least_o nor_o yet_o the_o eastern_a church_n nor_o any_o considerable_a number_n of_o they_o every_o bishop_n make_v his_o lyturgie_n or_o prayer_n as_o he_o see_v meet_v if_o you_o mean_v that_o they_o must_v have_v no_o difference_n in_o any_o word_n or_o ceremony_n and_o that_o all_o be_v of_o several_a church_n or_o half_o of_o no_o church_n who_o differ_v about_o meat_n drink_n day_n etc._n etc._n i_o shall_v not_o believe_v you_o while_o i_o believe_v the_o scripture_n rom._n 14._o and_o 15._o 1_o cor._n 8._o jam._n 3._o etc._n etc._n nor_o till_o i_o renounce_v humanity_n or_o believe_v that_o man_n of_o several_a complexion_n stature_n or_o language_n may_v not_o yet_o be_v all_o true_o man_n they_o that_o bring_v it_o to_o that_o that_o i_o be_o no_o christian_n if_o i_o eat_v not_o fish_n in_o lent_n rather_o than_o flesh_n may_v unchristian_a i_o next_o if_o i_o eat_v not_o my_o bread_n without_o cheese_n or_o my_o cheese_n without_o bread_n or_o if_o i_o take_v not_o the_o pope_n for_o my_o apothecary_n or_o physician_n lay_v by_o the_o sword_n and_o rack_n and_o fire_n and_o the_o world_n will_v soon_o laugh_v down_o your_o arrogant_a tyranny_n i_o demand_v his_o proof_n that_o ever_o there_o be_v a_o papist_n or_o almost_o one_o church_n of_o papist_n in_o the_o world_n for_o 400_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o he_o tell_v i_o that_o the_o oration_n of_o pope_n celestine_n be_v 2._o legate_n in_o the_o council_n at_o ephesus_n prove_v it_o and_o though_o that_o council_n be_v celebrate_v 430_o yet_o in_o a_o moral_a consideration_n that_o pass_v for_o 400_o etc._n etc._n answ._n what_o can_v the_o jesuit_n moral_n make_v good_a by_o they_o 430_o year_n be_v within_o the_o 400._o and_o by_o they_o a_o speech_n of_o the_o pope_n legate_n go_v for_o proof_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o council_n but_o what_o be_v that_o speech_n itself_o first_o note_v that_o the_o council_n be_v call_v by_o theodosius_n the_o emperor_n and_o not_o by_o celestine_n send_v his_o literae_fw-la augustales_fw-la to_o all_o the_o metropolitan_o command_v they_o to_o appear_v at_o ephesus_n 2._o that_o cyril_n and_o not_o celestine_n be_v send_v to_o at_o first_o for_o help_v from_o the_o church_n at_o constantinople_n 3._o that_o cyril_n preside_v and_o whereas_o the_o papist_n feign_v that_o he_o do_v it_o as_o the_o pope_n substitute_n the_o council_n letter_n to_o the_o emperor_n express_v that_o the_o pope_n three_o legate_n be_v the_o man_n that_o represent_v his_o person_n bin._n p._n 756._o and_o that_o they_o commend_v to_o theodosius_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o pope_n but_o as_o the_o signification_n of_o common_a consent_n 4._o and_o when_o all_o be_v do_v these_o word_n of_o philip_n a_o roman_a presbyter_n be_v all_o that_o this_o great_a boast_n be_v of_o thank_v they_o for_o so_o receive_v the_o pope_n letter_n non_fw-la enim_fw-la ignara_fw-la est_fw-la vestra_fw-la beatitudo_fw-la totius_fw-la fidei_fw-la caeterorumque_fw-la omnium_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la caput_fw-la bâ—…atum_fw-la apostolum_n petrum_fw-la extitisse_fw-la and_o after_o that_o peter_n the_o foundation_n and_o head_n have_v the_o key_n and_o live_v and_o judge_v in_o his_o successor_n but_o he_o deny_v not_o that_o the_o other_o apostle_n also_o have_v the_o key_n and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o these_o high_a word_n speak_v to_o keep_v up_o the_o pope_n greatness_n in_o the_o empire_n be_v but_o to_o maintain_v his_o place_n in_o council_n and_o never_o speak_v to_o the_o church_n without_o the_o empire_n nor_o such_o power_n over_o they_o claim_v by_o he_o and_o the_o council_n decree_n be_v pass_v before_o these_o legate_n come_v by_o who_o consent_n cyril_n be_v glad_a to_o strengthen_v his_o party_n have_v be_v condemn_v by_o joh._n antioch_n nestorius_n etc._n etc._n and_o do_v not_o hesichius_n say_v as_o much_o of_o
socrates_n sozomene_n theodoret_n evagrius_n procopius_n victor_n nicephorus_n etc._n etc._n and_o judge_v as_o you_o see_v cause_n especial_o if_o you_o will_v also_o read_v but_o the_o work_n of_o tertullian_n cyprian_n nazianzen_n basil_n hilary_n and_o the_o true_a act_n of_o the_o old_a council_n 5._o i_o add_v the_o equalize_a the_o patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n which_o he_o deny_v against_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o council_n i_o may_v add_v the_o after_o prefer_v the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n the_o oft_o contempt_n and_o excommunication_n of_o he_o the_o alter_n of_o church_n power_n ordinary_o by_o the_o emperor_n be_v iustinian_n make_v justiniana_n prima_fw-la and_o secunda_fw-la to_o be_v absolute_a and_o under_o no_o patriarch_n as_o be_v carthage_n and_o say_v pet._n a_o marca_n and_o many_o other_o heraclea_n pontus_n and_o asia_n long_o the_o manage_n of_o many_o council_n without_o he_o and_o pass_v canon_n as_o calce_v 28._o against_o he_o the_o whole_a council_n of_o ephes._n 2._o go_v against_o his_o legate_n and_o that_o under_o a_o most_o pious_a and_o excellent_a prince_n theodos._n 2._o that_o use_v cyril_n and_o make_v he_o precedent_n ephes._n 1._o and_o dioscorous_a ephes._n second_o and_o countenance_n this_o council_n against_o the_o pope_n when_o zeno_n carry_v on_o his_o henoticon_n and_o anastasius_n his_o reconciliation_n how_o little_a do_v he_o or_o any_o of_o the_o eastern_a church_n stick_v at_o the_o pope_n dissent_n no_o nor_o justinian_n when_o he_o turn_v to_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o apththartodocitae_fw-la and_o when_o he_o drag_v vigilius_n as_o some_o historian_n say_v with_o a_o rope_n instance_n may_v be_v multiply_v §_o 32._o my_o 6_o proof_n of_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o papal_a sovereignty_n be_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o their_o own_o great_a bishop_n where_o i_o cite_v greg._n one_a his_o word_n so_o plain_a and_o large_a against_o a_o universal_a bishop_n or_o pastor_n as_o plain_a can_v scarce_o be_v speak_v and_o answer_v bellarmine_n word_n against_o it_o and_o i_o shall_v take_v the_o impartial_a reader_n to_o need_v no_o more_o answer_n to_o w_n i._n than_o even_o to_o read_v the_o word_n of_o gregory_n themselves_o only_o note_v that_o this_o john_n of_o constantinople_n that_o claim_v the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n be_v a_o man_n of_o more_o than_o ordinary_a mortification_n and_o contempt_n of_o worldly_a thing_n for_o his_o poverty_n and_o great_a fast_v call_v johannes_n jejunus_fw-la and_o therefore_o not_o like_a to_o do_v it_o out_o of_o any_o extraordinary_a worldliness_n and_o pride_n and_o also_o that_o gregory_n be_v of_o so_o little_a power_n himself_o be_v then_o out_o of_o the_o empire_n under_o other_o power_n for_o the_o most_o part_n that_o he_o do_v not_o blame_v john_n as_o for_o claim_v that_o which_o he_o have_v right_a to_o but_o that_o which_o no_o bishop_n at_o all_o have_v right_o to_o the_o case_n be_v most_o plain_a §_o 33._o my_o seven_o proof_n be_v the_o papist_n themselves_o confess_v that_o multitude_n of_o christian_n if_o not_o most_o by_o far_o have_v be_v the_o opposer_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o none_o of_o his_o subject_n therefore_o there_o have_v be_v visible_a church_n of_o such_o to_o this_o he_o grant_v the_o antecedent_n of_o christian_n net_n univocal_o so_o call_v but_o of_o no_o other_o answ._n here_o he_o intimate_v that_o most_o of_o the_o profess_a christian_n of_o the_o world_n be_v not_o univocal_o christian_n by_o profession_n but_o equivocal_o only_a and_o who_o will_v easy_o believe_v such_o teacher_n as_o unchristen_v most_o of_o the_o christian_a world_n any_o sect_n may_v take_v that_o course_n their_o sense_n be_v this_o none_o be_v christian_n indeed_o but_o only_o those_o that_o be_v subject_n to_o the_o pope_n therefore_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n be_v his_o subject_n just_o so_o the_o donatist_n and_o some_o foreign_a anabaptist_n take_v it_o but_o for_o grant_v that_o none_o be_v christian_n but_o those_o that_o be_v baptise_a at_o age_n and_o then_o the_o inference_n will_v be_v plausible_a that_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n §_o 34._o to_o aeâ—…eas_n silvius_n pope_n pius_n 2d_o word_n that_o small_a regard_n be_v have_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n before_o the_o nicene_n council_n he_o reply_v that_o he_o mean_v not_o so_o small_a as_o not_o to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o all_o other_o church_n else_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v introduce_v a_o new_a government_n answ._n his_o word_n be_v plain_a and_o all_o history_n of_o those_o time_n confirm_v they_o no_o one_o church_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v any_o government_n over_o other_o but_o what_o be_v for_o mere_a concord_n by_o free_a consent_n at_o least_o before_o constantine_n give_v it_o they_o and_o in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n that_o intimate_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v ruler_n of_o all_o the_o world_n of_o christian_n but_o his_o power_n be_v mention_v as_o limit_v to_o his_o precinct_n and_o the_o like_v give_v to_o alexandria_n yet_o innovation_n in_o give_v power_n to_o patriarch_n be_v no_o wonder_n in_o council_n how_o else_o come_v constantinople_n and_o jerusalem_n to_o be_v patriarch_n be_v it_o not_o by_o innovation_n §_o 34._o next_o he_o say_v i_o cite_v goldastus_n but_o where_o the_o lord_n know_v answ._n i_o perceive_v the_o man_n be_v a_o stranger_n to_o goldastus_n who_o have_v gather_v a_o multitude_n of_o old_a writer_n against_o the_o papacy_n for_o prince_n right_n and_o bind_v they_o in_o many_o great_a volume_n de_fw-fr monarchia_fw-la &_o constitut._n imperial_a i_o cite_v no_o particular_a word_n but_o all_o these_o great_a volume_n of_o many_o author_n of_o those_o time_n show_v the_o opposition_n to_o papal_a claim_n §_o 35._o his_o say_n that_o the_o schismatical_a greek_n be_v not_o univocal_a christian_n be_v no_o more_o regardable_a than_o the_o greek_n anathematise_v papist_n §_o 36._o my_o plain_a testimony_n of_o their_o reynerius_n armeniorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o aethiopum_fw-la &_o induorum_fw-la &_o caeterae_fw-la quas_fw-la apostoli_fw-la converterunt_fw-la non_fw-la subsunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la romanae_fw-la he_o first_o cavil_v at_o my_o saying_n be_v not_o under_o instead_o of_o be_v not_o not_o see_v that_o i_o only_o recite_v the_o assertion_n as_o utter_v by_o reynerius_n so_o long_o ago_o and_o must_v i_o not_o say_v that_o he_o say_v than_o they_o be_v not_o under_o if_o he_o so_o long_o ago_o say_v they_o be_v not_o 2._o but_o he_o will_v persuade_v the_o credulous_a that_o this_o speak_v of_o they_o but_o as_o schismatic_n as_o alexandria_n antioch_n constantinople_n be_v not_o now_o under_o rome_n but_o have_v be_v answ_n but_o those_o that_o will_v be_v satisfy_v with_o force_a abuse_n of_o word_n may_v believe_v any_o thing_n that_o a_o priest_n will_v say_v the_o context_n confute_v you_o you_o do_v not_o pretend_v that_o india_n turn_v from_o you_o and_o be_v under_o you_o by_o the_o church_n plant_v by_o the_o apostle_n he_o plain_o mean_v those_o without_o the_o empire_n as_o be_v none_o of_o the_o province_n put_v under_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n nor_o of_o old_a claim_v by_o the_o pope_n §_o 37._o i_o cite_v melch._n canus_n word_n loc._n l._n 6._o c._n 7._o fol._n 201._o not_o only_o the_o greek_n but_o almost_o all_o or_o most_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n have_v vehement_o seek_v to_o destroy_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o indeed_o they_o have_v on_o their_o side_n both_o the_o arm_n of_o emperor_n and_o the_o great_a number_n of_o church_n and_o yet_o they_o can_v never_o prevail_v to_o abrogate_v the_o power_n of_o the_o one_o roman_a pope_n to_o this_o he_o say_v that_o 1._o canus_n speak_v of_o different_a time_n not_o conjunct_o 2._o and_o he_o take_v they_o not_o for_o univocal_a christian_n and_o here_o he_o find_v a_o root_n of_o rebellion_n q._n d._n most_o of_o the_o country_n rebel_v against_o the_o king_n ergo_fw-la he_o have_v no_o authority_n over_o they_o answ._n our_o question_n here_o be_v only_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n whether_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la most_o of_o the_o bishop_n and_o church_n have_v not_o be_v against_o the_o papacy_n this_o canus_n assert_v therefore_o i_o seek_v no_o more_o and_o when_o you_o have_v prove_v they_o no_o christian_n or_o rebel_n i_o shall_v consider_v your_o proof_n 2._o have_v he_o mean_v only_o the_o most_o of_o the_o bishop_n and_o church_n per_fw-la vice_n it_o have_v signify_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n for_o that_o have_v be_v no_o strength_n but_o may_v have_v be_v some_o inconsiderable_a town_n at_o a_o time_n 3._o but_o that_o all_o church-history_n may_v help_v we_o better_a to_o understand_v his_o word_n that_o tell_v we_o oft_o
nothing_o be_v necessary_a to_o you_o to_o do_v which_o you_o can_v do_v without_o come_v into_o the_o light_n it_o be_v a_o dispute_n among_o the_o papist_n divine_n what_o a_o christian_a be_v or_o what_o christianity_n be_v and_o yet_o they_o have_v a_o infallible_a judge_n of_o all_o the_o scripture_n and_o all_o controversy_n and_o yet_o they_o can_v tell_v that_o protestant_n be_v heretic_n and_o yet_o they_o can_v tell_v who_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n though_o it_o be_v a_o dispute_n among_o divine_n but_o mark_v that_o this_o be_v not_o then_o with_o they_o de_fw-mi fide_fw-la any_o point_n of_o faith_n what_o a_o christian_a be_v or_o what_o must_v be_v believe_v for_o their_o divine_n dispute_v not_o that_o which_o they_o take_v to_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la i_o tell_v he_o that_o a_o man_n may_v believe_v that_o the_o bible_n be_v true_a and_o god_n word_n and_o yet_o not_o know_v a_o word_n that_o be_v in_o it_o or_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o messiah_n or_o that_o there_o be_v ever_o such_o a_o person_n 15._o he_o answer_v that_o this_o be_v moral_o impossible_a for_o either_o such_o a_o person_n believe_v the_o bible_n rash_o and_o imprudent_o and_o then_o according_a to_o all_o divine_n his_o faith_n can_v be_v supernatural_a and_o divine_a or_o sufficient_a to_o constitute_v he_o a_o christian_a or_o he_o believe_v it_o prudent_o by_o prudential_a motive_n of_o credibility_n now_o that_o can_v be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n which_o he_o can_v be_v ignorant_a to_o profess_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o other_o save_o that_o though_o he_o know_v not_o by_o experience_n that_o christ_n be_v mention_v in_o the_o bible_n he_o can_v but_o know_v that_o he_o be_v profess_v to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o saviour_n of_o the_o world_n by_o those_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n who_o deliver_v the_o bible_n to_o he_o as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o such_o a_o faith_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n ans._n here_o be_v many_o thing_n worthy_a our_o consideration_n 1._o that_o a_o man_n be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v a_o christian_a unless_o his_o faith_n be_v supernatural_a and_o divine_a not_o only_o in_o the_o object_n but_o his_o act_n and_o sure_o no_o man_n know_v what_o other_o man_n act_n of_o faith_n be_v supernatural_a and_o divine_a therefore_o no_o man_n know_v who_o be_v a_o christian_n and_o so_o their_o church_n be_v still_o invisible_a 2._o no_o man_n that_o believe_v the_o bible_n rash_o and_o imprudent_o be_v a_o christian_n and_o no_o man_n know_v whether_o another_o believe_v it_o not_o rash_o and_o imprudent_o yea_o whether_o he_o believe_v it_o at_o all_o therefore_o no_o man_n know_v who_o be_v a_o christian_n or_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 3._o no_o other_o motive_n than_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n can_v serve_v to_o free_v a_o man_n from_o this_o rashness_n imprudence_n and_o nullity_n of_o his_o christianity_n 1._o but_o why_o then_o have_v we_o not_o this_o general_n the_o church_n catholic_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v and_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v receive_v only_o by_o its_o authority_n before_o in_o the_o description_n of_o implicit_a or_o explicit_a faith_n 2._o be_v that_o man_n no_o christian_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n who_o be_v convert_v by_o a_o single_a apostle_n and_o take_v not_o the_o faith_n on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v the_o eunuch_n convert_v by_o philip_n act._n 8._o or_o the_o jailor_n and_o lydia_n convert_v by_o paul_n act._n 16._o or_o the_o 3000_o convert_v by_o peter_n act._n 2._o receive_v faith_n on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n or_o the_o indian_n when_o convert_v by_o frumentius_n and_o edesus_fw-la or_o the_o abassian_a empire_n that_o till_o late_o know_v nothing_o of_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o pretension_n or_o do_v we_o read_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v use_v that_o argument_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n to_o convert_v their_o hearer_n or_o that_o they_o always_o first_o tell_v they_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o a_o church_n if_o by_o the_o church_n you_o mean_v any_o single_a apostle_n or_o teacher_n hold_v to_o that_o and_o we_o shall_v do_v well_o enough_o with_o you_o 3._o but_o authority_n be_v a_o ambiguous_a word_n and_o may_v deceive_v we_o maintain_v that_o a_o preserve_n and_o teach_v ministerial_a authority_n be_v usual_o needful_a to_o man_n conversion_n to_o the_o faith_n though_o not_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o be_v first_o believe_v by_o the_o hearer_n but_o a_o judge_a authority_n viz._n whether_o there_o be_v a_o god_n a_o christ_n a_o scripture_n a_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n or_o not_o which_o determine_v by_o a_o sentence_n rather_o than_o teach_v by_o open_v that_o evidence_n which_o cause_v belief_n in_o the_o teacher_n himself_o this_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o man_n faith_n 4._o and_o what_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v hear_v a_o preacher_n open_v the_o other_o reason_n of_o christianity_n without_o talk_v of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o its_o authority_n and_o shall_v hereupon_o believe_v or_o shall_v believe_v by_o the_o bare_a read_n of_o a_o bible_n how_o prove_v you_o that_o this_o man_n be_v no_o christian_a nor_o shall_v be_v save_v when_o christ_n say_v he_o that_o believe_v shall_v be_v save_v and_o shall_v not_o perish_v and_o say_v not_o he_o that_o believe_v on_o any_o other_o motive_n than_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o that_o must_v be_v the_o roman_n believe_v rash_o and_o impudent_o and_o shall_v perish_v 4._o but_o it_o be_v well_o worth_a the_o enquiry_n can_v we_o possible_o find_v it_o out_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o 16._o know_v the_o church_n and_o its_o profession_n and_o its_o authority_n and_o whether_o this_o be_v a_o act_n of_o necessary_a faith_n before_o any_o thing_n else_o can_v be_v believe_v or_o what_o other_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v contain_v in_o our_o belief_n of_o this_o church_n and_o its_o authority_n and_o what_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o this_o faith_n it_o seem_v that_o he_o suppose_v that_o the_o church_n must_v be_v know_v before_o that_o the_o christian_a faith_n be_v believe_v and_o that_o in_o know_v the_o church_n we_o must_v know_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o know_v that_o they_o be_v a_o company_n of_o man_n call_v the_o christian_a church_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o know_v what_o a_o christian_a church_n be_v and_o another_o thing_n to_o know_v that_o this_o company_n of_o man_n be_v that_o church_n must_v all_o these_o be_v know_v before_o we_o can_v believe_v or_o but_o one_o or_o two_o and_o which_o 1._o if_o the_o name_n be_v enough_o a_o man_n may_v know_v that_o a_o company_n of_o man_n be_v call_v christian_n or_o mahumetanes_n who_o know_v not_o at_o all_o what_o christianity_n or_o mahumetanism_n be_v you_o say_v that_o it_o must_v be_v know_v that_o they_o profess_v to_o trust_v in_o christ_n this_o they_o may_v do_v and_o not_o know_v who_o christ_n be_v whether_o god_n or_o man_n or_o what_o he_o have_v do_v or_o will_v do_v for_o we_o if_o you_o say_v that_o they_o must_v know_v that_o they_o profess_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o saviour_n so_o they_o may_v do_v and_o yet_o not_o know_v what_o the_o word_n saviour_n signify_v or_o what_o christ_n ever_o do_v or_o will_v do_v for_o our_o salvation_n 2._o but_o if_o he_o mean_v here_o that_o every_o one_o that_o will_v believe_v god_n word_n must_v first_o know_v the_o church_n as_o define_v or_o know_v it_o in_o all_o its_o essence_n then_o 1._o how_o few_o will_v he_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v to_o be_v christian_n and_o how_o will_v he_o know_v who_o they_o be_v 2._o and_o still_o the_o question_n recur_v what_o be_v it_o that_o must_v be_v particular_o believe_v to_o essentiate_v the_o church_n for_o if_o he_o know_v not_o that_o he_o can_v know_v that_o he_o know_v what_o the_o church_n be_v 3._o and_o when_o that_o be_v do_v it_o seem_v he_o must_v know_v which_o be_v that_o church_n consider_v in_o existence_n as_o different_a from_o all_o heresy_n and_o other_o society_n but_o by_o this_o method_n our_o difficulty_n be_v multiply_v 1._o how_o shall_v i_o be_v sure_a that_o this_o church_n do_v not_o deceive_v i_o in_o say_v that_o this_o and_o not_o that_o be_v god_n word_n be_v this_o by_o a_o act_n of_o knowledge_n or_o of_o divine_a faith_n if_o of_o knowledge_n what_o evidence_n prove_v it_o if_o of_o faith_n than_o i_o must_v believe_v god_n before_o i_o can_v believe_v he_o that_o be_v i_o must_v believe_v that_o this_o be_v his_o revelation_n and_o true_a that_o the_o roman
part_n of_o the_o church_n i_o next_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o jesuit_n turnbull_n against_o rob._n baronius_n maintain_v that_o revelation_n 6._o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o formal_a object_n of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o to_o deny_v it_o be_v not_o to_o deny_v the_o formal_a object_n 2._o and_o that_o forma_fw-la that_fw-mi nomen_fw-la and_o he_o be_v no_o heretic_n that_o be_v none_o formal_o to_o the_o latter_a he_o give_v no_o answer_n and_o to_o the_o first_o as_o bad_a as_o none_o viz._n that_o the_o heretic_n deny_v also_o the_o material_a object_n and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n and_o that_o which_o he_o be_v oblige_v by_o sufficient_a reason_n to_o believe_v to_o be_v reveal_v of_o god_n and_o therefore_o virtual_o deny_v god_n to_o be_v true_a ans._n but_o i_o again_o reply_n 1._o virtual_a be_v not_o actual_a 2._o it_o be_v no_o virtual_a denial_n that_o god_n be_v true_a but_o only_o that_o the_o proposer_n be_v true_a to_o be_v oblige_v to_o believe_v a_o thing_n to_o be_v god_n word_n only_o prove_v that_o i_o break_v that_o obligation_n if_o i_o believe_v it_o not_o to_o be_v his_o word_n but_o not_o at_o all_o that_o i_o believe_v god_n to_o be_v a_o liar_n who_o word_n i_o believe_v it_o not_o to_o be_v again_o this_o make_v all_o christian_n to_o be_v heretic_n past_a dispute_n for_o all_o christian_n receive_v not_o something_o or_o other_o small_a or_o great_a which_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o belieâ—…e_v to_o be_v god_n word_n do_v you_o err_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v reveal_v by_o scripture_n or_o tradition_n or_o not_o if_o you_o say_v no_o and_o so_o that_o your_o understanding_n have_v no_o sin_n you_o deceive_v yourself_o and_o the_o truth_n be_v not_o in_o you_o if_o yea_o then_o be_v you_o not_o oblige_v to_o believe_v the_o contrary_a to_o be_v god_n word_n if_o not_o oblige_v than_o your_o error_n be_v no_o sin_n so_o that_o you_o make_v every_o sinful_a error_n to_o be_v heresy_n and_o proud_o deny_v that_o you_o have_v any_o sinful_a error_n lest_o you_o shall_v be_v a_o heretic_n i_o add_v that_o their_o church_n be_v constitute_v of_o man_n that_o sinful_o neglect_v some_o point_n of_o truth_n or_o other_o sufficient_o propose_v ergo_fw-la be_v it_o constitute_v of_o heretic_n 7._o to_o this_o he_o answer_v that_o whatever_o their_o neglect_n be_v to_o know_v what_o be_v propound_v yet_o so_o long_o as_o they_o believe_v explicit_o what_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v so_o believe_v necessitate_v medii_fw-la and_o implicit_o the_o rest_n they_o can_v be_v no_o hereitck_n for_o it_o be_v not_o the_o ignorance_n though_o culpable_a but_o contradiction_n to_o what_o be_v know_v damn_v to_o they_o to_o be_v propound_v by_o those_o that_o have_v power_n to_o oblige_v they_o as_o be_v their_o lawful_a superior_n which_o make_v a_o heretic_n r._n b._n 1._o but_o still_o you_o agree_v not_o nor_o tell_v we_o what_o be_v explicit_o to_o be_v believe_v necessary_o 2._o by_o this_o we_o be_v all_o absolve_v from_o heresy_n for_o we_o believe_v all_o explicitly_a that_o be_v necssary_a necessitate_v medii_fw-la and_o all_o the_o rest_n implicit_o by_o a_o double_a implicit_a faith_n 1._o in_o god_n and_o our_o redeemer_n 2._o in_o the_o inspire_a apostle_n and_o prophet_n we_o believe_v all_o to_o be_v true_a which_o god_n have_v reveal_v and_o which_o his_o apostle_n have_v deliver_v as_o god_n word_n 3._o yea_o and_o all_o that_o we_o know_v to_o be_v propound_v by_o any_o oblige_a superior_n for_o we_o know_v not_o the_o pope_n nor_o your_o contradictory_n council_n to_o be_v such_o my_o next_o qu._n 2._o be_v what_o mean_v you_o by_o sufficient_a proposal_n 8._o w._n i._n such_o as_o be_v sufficient_a among_o man_n in_o humanis_fw-la to_o oblige_v one_o to_o take_v notice_n that_o a_o king_n have_v exact_v such_o and_o such_o law_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v a_o public_a testimony_n that_o such_o thing_n be_v reveal_v by_o the_o infallible_a authority_n of_o those_o who_o be_v the_o high_a tribunal_n of_o god_n church_n or_o by_o notorious_a and_o universal_a trâ—…dition_n r._n b._n 1._o here_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v that_o he_o take_v sufficiency_n respective_o to_o the_o promulgator_n viz._n as_o much_o as_o he_o be_v oblige_v to_o do_v for_o a_o king_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o publish_v his_o law_n in_o every_o parish_n or_o county_n but_o only_o to_o make_v such_o a_o publication_n of_o they_o in_o the_o chief_a place_n of_o his_o kingdom_n as_o that_o man_n may_v take_v notice_n of_o they_o king_n send_v not_o schoolmaster_n to_o teach_v every_o man_n how_o to_o prove_v that_o his_o law_n be_v not_o counterfeit_v and_o what_o they_o be_v and_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o they_o for_o the_o enact_v of_o they_o be_v a_o late_a matter_n of_o fact_n and_o easy_o notify_v as_o near_o unto_o they_o and_o no_o other_o knowledge_n or_o belief_n of_o they_o be_v require_v but_o such_o as_o be_v necessary_a to_o that_o part_n of_o the_o obedience_n of_o they_o which_o belong_v to_o every_o man_n in_o his_o place_n this_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o if_o such_o a_o publication_n of_o god_n law_n be_v sufficient_a million_o that_o never_o hear_v a_o word_n of_o the_o bible_n or_o what_o christ_n be_v have_v such_o a_o sufficient_a publication_n for_o the_o gospel_n be_v publish_v in_o many_o part_n of_o the_o world_n and_o perhaps_o in_o many_o place_n of_o the_o kingdom_n where_o they_o dwell_v though_o they_o never_o hear_v it_o 2._o but_o when_o man_n have_v the_o public_a testimony_n that_o such_o statute_n be_v make_v and_o such_o a_o book_n send_v from_o god_n this_o do_v not_o acquaint_v man_n what_o those_o statutesor_n that_o book_n contain_v sothat_o by_o this_o rule_n it_o shall_v be_v sufficient_a to_o know_v that_o god_n make_v the_o bible_n without_o know_v what_o be_v in_o it_o or_o else_o he_o that_o be_v but_o tell_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o book_n be_v bind_v by_o that_o much_o to_o know_v all_o that_o be_v in_o it_o 3._o but_o note_v the_o popish_a difficulty_n of_o faith_n w._n i._n tell_v we_o after_o the_o rest_n that_o we_o must_v know_v these_o thing_n reveal_v by_o the_o infallible_a authority_n of_o those_o who_o be_v the_o high_a tribunal_n of_o god_n church_n etc._n etc._n and_o be_v it_o possible_a for_o one_o that_o know_v nothing_o of_o christ_n or_o the_o scripture_n or_o that_o christ_n have_v a_o church_n to_o know_v yet_o 1._o that_o he_o have_v a_o church_n 2._o and_o that_o he_o have_v authorize_v some_o man_n to_o be_v the_o high_a tribunal_n to_o judge_n that_o church_n through_o all_o the_o world_n and_o 3._o that_o he_o have_v particular_o authorize_v they_o to_o judge_n which_o be_v and_o be_v not_o his_o revelation_n 4._o and_o to_o know_v who_o be_v the_o man_n that_o be_v this_o high_a tribunal_n to_o all_o the_o world_n viz._n for_o those_o of_o abassia_n that_o have_v not_o so_o much_o history_n as_o to_o tell_v they_o that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o city_n as_o rome_n or_o such_o a_o man_n as_o the_o pope_n in_o the_o world_n till_o oviedo_n be_v send_v who_o tell_v it_o but_o to_o few_o can_v yet_o know_v that_o this_o pope_n and_o his_o council_n be_v their_o judge_n and_o from_o they_o they_o must_v receive_v the_o gospel_n 5._o and_o to_o know_v that_o this_o universal_a tribunal_n be_v infallible_a before_o they_o believe_v in_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v suppose_v to_o give_v they_o their_o infallibility_n alas_o must_v every_o poor_a infidel_n know_v all_o this_o before_o he_o can_v believe_v in_o christ_n when_o we_o that_o live_v among_o they_o and_o read_v their_o law_n and_o doctrine_n can_v easy_o believe_v the_o infallibility_n of_o those_o pope_n who_o by_o general_a council_n be_v charge_v not_o only_o with_o murder_n adultery_n simony_n perjury_n etc._n etc._n but_o with_o heresy_n also_o or_o infidelity_n nor_o the_o infallibility_n of_o those_o general_a council_n who_o be_v accuse_v by_o pope_n and_o by_o other_o council_n of_o error_n heresy_n or_o schism_n 4._o but_o he_o add_v another_o way_n or_o by_o notorious_a and_o universal_a tradition_n and_o 1._o if_o this_o will_v 9_o serve_v than_o i_o hope_v we_o may_v have_v true_a faith_n that_o believe_v no_o humane_a infallible_a tribunal_n over_o all_o the_o world_n much_o less_o that_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o council_n be_v such_o a_o tribunal_n for_o we_o have_v notorious_a universal_a tradition_n deliver_v we_o all_o our_o religion_n 2._o but_o yet_o these_o be_v hard_a term_n for_o every_o poor_a heathen_a to_o come_v to_o christ_n by_o alas_o how_o shall_v the_o million_o of_o people_n through_o the_o world_n who_o know_v nothing_o that_o be_v many_o day_n journey_n from_o their_o house_n know_v
church_n do_v notorious_o believe_v and_o practise_v the_o administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o both_o kind_n the_o cup_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o celebration_n of_o public_a worship_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n and_o the_o read_n and_o hear_v of_o the_o scripture_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n by_o the_o people_n and_o other_o such_o like_a but_o yet_o i_o will_v not_o take_v you_o at_o your_o word_n nor_o call_v you_o heretic_n mere_o on_o the_o account_n assert_v by_o you_o for_o i_o know_v that_o your_o rule_n be_v false_a and_o if_o a_o man_n have_v know_v that_o the_o universal_a church_n have_v hold_v some_o opinion_n of_o chronology_n or_o genealogy_n or_o cosmography_n as_o about_o cainan_n or_o the_o age_n of_o sem_fw-mi or_o that_o there_o be_v no_o artipode_n especial_o in_o the_o dismal_a nine_o century_n and_o if_o he_o have_v think_v that_o they_o take_v this_o point_n for_o a_o divine_a revelation_n believe_v the_o septuagint_n or_o some_o other_o mistranslation_n which_o be_v common_o receive_v before_o jeromes_n time_n this_o man_n so_o think_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n then_o err_v in_o so_o small_a a_o point_n be_v no_o heretic_n for_o so_o think_v for_o i_o will_v know_v of_o yourself_o whether_o the_o pope_n and_o all_o their_o follower_n be_v not_o heretic_n for_o the_o septuagint_n be_v long_o take_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o so_o be_v the_o vulgar_a latin_a long_v after_o by_o your_o universal_a roman_a church_n and_o consequent_o that_o those_o text_n be_v god_n word_n which_o yet_o afterward_o you_o alter_v many_o hundred_o or_o thousand_o alteration_n in_o the_o one_o be_v make_v by_o sixtus_n 5_o and_o clement_n 8_o all_o which_o be_v so_o many_o judgement_n that_o the_o church_n have_v err_v that_o before_o take_v the_o other_o reading_n for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n unless_o you_o can_v make_v one_o thing_n god_n word_n to_o day_n and_o the_o contrary_a to_o morrow_n 5._o but_o by_o this_o rule_n also_o we_o be_v acquit_v from_o heresy_n if_o it_o be_v not_o notorious_a to_o we_o that_o the_o universal_a church_n believe_v and_o practise_v contrary_a to_o we_o which_o sure_o be_v notorious_a to_o very_a few_o at_o most_o and_o indeed_o we_o differ_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o more_o because_o we_o dare_v not_o with_o they_o differ_v from_o the_o belief_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o this_o and_o in_o former_a age_n r._n b._n be_v not_o the_o bible_n a_o public_a testimony_n and_o record_n and_o be_v universal_o receive_v be_v a_o universal_a tradition_n and_o yet_o abundance_n of_o truth_n in_o it_o be_v not_o actual_o know_v or_o believe_v by_o most_o of_o your_o own_o church_n w._n j._n it_o be_v only_o a_o tradition_n that_o whatever_o be_v there_o deliver_v be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o it_o be_v no_o tradition_n that_o such_o a_o determinate_a sense_n and_o no_o other_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o every_o sentence_n 13._o contain_v in_o it_o when_o according_a to_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n the_o word_n be_v capable_a of_o many_o sense_n r._n b._n worse_o and_o worse_o still_o 1._o tradition_n tell_v we_o that_o this_o bible_n be_v god_n word_n this_o word_n of_o god_n be_v significant_a and_o intelligible_a or_o else_o it_o be_v worse_a and_o more_o defective_a than_o the_o common_a word_n of_o man_n this_o intelligible_a bible_n or_o word_n therefore_o deliver_v to_o we_o its_o own_o sense_n if_o not_o than_o council_n do_v not_o deliver_v we_o the_o sense_n of_o god_n word_n or_o their_o own_o for_o god_n can_v speak_v as_o well_o as_o they_o and_o their_o word_n be_v no_o more_o plain_a than_o he_o yet_o a_o multitude_n of_o plain_a intelligible_a text_n be_v not_o understand_v by_o many_o of_o your_o church_n who_o you_o call_v not_o heretic_n yea_o your_o learned_a commentator_n differ_v and_o fight_v about_o their_o sense_n 2._o therefore_o when_o you_o talk_v of_o every_o sentence_n you_o do_v but_o fly_v and_o hide_v your_o fraud_n if_o your_o meaning_n be_v that_o no_o sentence_n of_o scripture_n be_v divine_a revelation_n as_o they_o be_v in_o god_n own_o word_n but_o as_o expound_v by_o your_o church_n all_o christian_a ear_n shall_v abhor_v your_o blasphemy_n if_o you_o mean_v only_o that_o there_o be_v some_o text_n so_o difficult_a as_o that_o most_o christian_n can_v understand_v they_o or_o that_o be_v capable_a of_o various_a sense_n we_o grant_v it_o but_o what_o be_v those_o to_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v every_o man_n a_o heretic_n that_o err_v about_o the_o sense_n of_o any_o one_o plain_a text_n of_o scripture_n or_o not_o and_o it_o be_v perverse_a that_o you_o say_v of_o divers_a sense_n according_a to_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n for_o a_o text_n may_v be_v expound_v contrary_a to_o the_o plain_a word_n and_o context_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o expound_v contrary_a to_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n if_o by_o that_o word_n you_o mean_v as_o be_v usual_a contrary_a to_o the_o harmony_n of_o christian_a necessary_a truth_n yea_o or_o contrary_a to_o any_o other_o truth_n whatever_o save_o that_o text_n itself_o and_o now_o reader_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o thy_o reason_n whether_o this_o man_n have_v give_v we_o any_o regardable_a notice_n at_o all_o what_o be_v heresy_n or_o what_o they_o mean_v by_o it_o or_o have_v not_o trifle_v and_o say_v nothing_o but_o what_o heresy_n be_v i_o will_v brief_o tell_v you_o the_o word_n signify_v election_n be_v use_v in_o the_o begin_n sometime_o for_o any_o sect_n or_o party_n divide_v from_o the_o common_a body_n of_o the_o 14._o church_n and_o christian_n be_v call_v a_o heresy_n by_o the_o jew_n by_o the_o christian_n the_o name_n signify_v any_o party_n of_o man_n that_o profess_v to_o differ_v in_o some_o necessary_a thing_n from_o the_o common_a body_n of_o christian_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n do_v separate_v from_o they_o as_o unmeet_a for_o their_o communion_n and_o gather_v themselves_o into_o divide_a society_n so_o that_o differ_v from_o the_o apostolical_a doctrine_n and_o church_n and_o make_v different_a sect_n or_o society_n therefore_o which_o separate_v from_o and_o oppose_v the_o church_n be_v call_v heresy_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o it_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n with_o the_o gross_a sort_n of_o schism_n and_o the_o common_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n schism_n than_o be_v low_a signify_v either_o the_o contentious_a make_n of_o division_n within_o a_o church_n without_o separate_n from_o it_o or_o else_o the_o break_n of_o one_o church_n into_o many_o without_o separate_v from_o other_o church_n or_o the_o generality_n of_o christian_n and_o so_o long_o after_o the_o word_n heresy_n be_v sometime_o use_v for_o such_o schism_n only_o and_o hence_o lucifer_n calaritanus_n and_o the_o novatian_o and_o many_o other_o be_v call_v heretic_n and_o sometime_o use_v more_o cautelous_o in_o a_o narrow_a sense_n for_o those_o only_a that_o deny_v some_o essential_a article_n of_o faith_n or_o practice_n and_o sometime_o in_o a_o yet_o narrow_a sense_n for_o those_o only_a that_o upon_o such_o a_o denial_n of_o some_o essential_a point_n do_v gather_v into_o a_o separate_a society_n to_o maintain_v their_o error_n and_o oppugn_v the_o truth_n and_o according_a to_o these_o various_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n horesie_n and_o heretic_n we_o must_v conclude_v that_o a_o heretic_n may_v or_o may_v not_o be_v save_v and_o be_v or_o be_v not_o within_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o w._n 1_n do_v deceitful_o confound_v of_o which_o i_o have_v say_v more_o in_o the_o end_n and_o show_v you_o by_o a_o instance_n of_o philastrius_n how_o mischievous_a it_o be_v to_o abuse_v the_o name_n of_o heresy_n against_o every_o different_a opinion_n of_o true_a christian_n and_o so_o to_o make_v heretic_n of_o all_o believer_n in_o the_o world_n chap._n iii_o what_o mean_v you_o by_o the_o word_n pope_n w._n j._n by_o pope_n i_o mean_v st._n peter_n or_o any_o of_o his_o lawful_a successor_n in_o the_o see_v of_o 1_o rome_n have_v authority_n by_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n to_o govern_v all_o particular_a church_n next_o under_o christ._n r._n b._n i_o be_o never_o the_o near_o know_v the_o pope_n by_o this_o till_o i_o know_v how_o st._n peter_n successor_n may_v be_v know_v to_o i_o q._n 1._o what_o personal_a qualification_n be_v necessary_a ad_fw-la esse_fw-la w._n j._n such_o as_o be_v necessary_a ad_fw-la esse_fw-la of_o other_o bishop_n which_o i_o suppose_v you_o know_v r._n b._n if_o so_o than_o all_o those_o be_v no_o pope_n that_o be_v heretic_n or_o deny_v essential_a point_n of_o faith_n w._n j._n it_o be_v true_a they_o be_v no_o pope_n while_o
jurisdiction_n we_o need_v and_o desire_v none_o but_o a_o ministerial_a power_n of_o guide_a soul_n towards_o heaven_n by_o god_n word_n preach_v and_o apply_v and_o he_o that_o ordain_v a_o minister_n thereby_o give_v he_o all_o the_o jurisdiction_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o his_o office_n if_o a_o man_n be_v license_v a_o physician_n must_v he_o have_v also_o mission_n and_o jurisdiction_n give_v he_o after_o before_o he_o may_v practise_v 3._o how_o can_v we_o take_v ordination_n mission_n and_o jurisdiction_n from_o man_n on_o the_o other_o side_n of_o the_o world_n what_o need_v we_o go_v so_o far_o for_o it_o when_o the_o gospel_n be_v near_o we_o which_o tell_v we_o how_o god_n will_v have_v minister_n more_o easy_o call_v than_o so_o 4._o and_o as_o for_o the_o prescript_n of_o our_o liturgy_n discipline_n and_o hierarchy_n that_o be_v one_o of_o the_o difference_n between_o we_o and_o you_o must_v you_o needs_o have_v a_o liturgy_n discipline_n and_o hierarchy_n of_o man_n form_v so_o you_o have_v but_o we_o can_v live_v in_o christian_a communion_n with_o so_o much_o as_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n by_o his_o spirit_n have_v prescribe_v we_o be_v there_o no_o communion_n to_o be_v have_v with_o any_o church_n but_o that_o which_o have_v arrive_v at_o that_o height_n of_o pride_n as_o to_o make_v liturgy_n discipline_n and_o hierarchy_n for_o all_o the_o chrstian_a world_n and_o to_o suffer_v none_o to_o speak_v public_o to_o god_n in_o any_o word_n but_o those_o which_o they_o write_v down_o for_o they_o to_o read_v to_o god_n we_o make_v no_o such_o law_n to_o any_o other_o church_n in_o the_o world_n nor_o do_v we_o receive_v any_o such_o law_n from_o any_o and_o yet_o we_o have_v communion_n with_o they_o fraternal_a and_o not_o subjective_a communion_n there_o be_v one_o lawgiver_n who_o be_v able_a to_o save_v and_o to_o destroy_v who_o be_v you_o that_o make_v law_n for_o another_o servant_n and_o judge_v they_o have_v the_o church_n no_o communion_n for_o the_o first_o 400_o year_n when_o no_o liturgy_n be_v impose_v or_o when_o the_o first_o law_n make_v hereabout_o be_v but_o that_o no_o one_o shall_v use_v a_o form_n of_o prayer_n till_o he_o have_v show_v it_o to_o the_o synod_n no_o nor_o when_o gregory_n and_o ambrose_n liturgy_n be_v strive_v for_o pre-eminence_n have_v the_o church_n at_o neocesaria_n no_o communion_n with_o that_o at_o caesarea_n because_o they_o have_v so_o different_a liturgy_n as_o their_o quarrel_n against_o basil_n intimate_v and_o when_o every_o bishop_n use_v what_o liturgy_n he_o please_v in_o his_o own_o congregation_n be_v there_o then_o no_o communion_n between_o the_o church_n we_o refuse_v not_o any_o meet_a liturgy_n that_o be_v find_v needful_a to_o our_o concord_n but_o true_o for_o hierarchy_n and_o species_n or_o form_n of_o church_n and_o the_o substantial_o of_o discipline_n we_o earnest_o wish_v that_o no_o church_n have_v any_o but_o what_o god_n have_v himself_o prescribe_v to_o they_o 5._o but_o how_o shall_v we_o join_v with_o man_n many_o hundred_o or_o thousand_o mile_n off_o we_o in_o word_n and_o sacrament_n otherwise_o than_o by_o use_v those_o of_o the_o same_o species_n we_o do_v not_o local_o hold_v such_o communion_n with_o the_o next_o parish_n to_o we_o nor_o with_o many_o in_o the_o world_n for_o we_o can_v be_v in_o many_o place_n at_o once_o much_o less_o can_v we_o be_v every_o lord_n day_n in_o every_o assembly_n in_o ethiopia_n and_o armenia_n as_o for_o sacrifice_n we_o know_v of_o none_o acceptable_a but_o the_o commemmoration_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n once_o offer_v for_o sin_n and_o the_o offering_n of_o ourselves_o and_o our_o thanksgiving_n praise_n and_o other_o duty_n to_o god_n and_o why_o you_o distinguish_v the_o first_o from_o sacrament_n i_o know_v not_o w._n j._n aâ—…d_n do_v they_o profess_v the_o same_o faith_n in_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o those_o the_o very_a same_o 5._o wherein_o they_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n r._n b._n 1._o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la it_o may_v suffice_v to_o say_v to_o you_o that_o explicit_o or_o implicit_o they_o do_v 2._o but_o i_o better_o answer_v you_o we_o profess_v the_o same_o faith_n in_o all_o point_v essential_a to_o christianity_n and_o in_o abundance_n more_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o that_o we_o agree_v in_o all_o the_o old_a creed_n and_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n 3._o but_o do_v you_o papist_n agree_v in_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n no_o not_o by_o a_o thousand_o for_o all_o be_v of_o faith_n which_o god_n have_v intelligible_o reveal_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o be_v believe_v but_o there_o be_v above_o a_o thousand_o intelligible_a text_n of_o scripture_n about_o the_o sense_n of_o which_o your_o commentator_n differ_v if_o all_o christian_n agree_v in_o all_o that_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la than_o all_o christian_n full_o understand_v every_o intelligible_a word_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o then_o every_o woman_n and_o rustic_a be_v as_o wise_a in_o divinity_n as_o the_o great_a doctor_n yea_o far_o be_v the_o doctor_n from_o such_o wisdom_n w._n j._n if_o so_o they_o may_v as_o well_o be_v say_v not_o to_o have_v separate_v from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o 6._o the_o roman_a church_n r._n b._n some_o will_v tell_v you_o that_o we_o do_v not_o separate_v from_o you_o but_o you_o from_o we_o but_o i_o must_v say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v consider_v either_o material_o as_o christian_n and_o a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o we_o neither_o do_v nor_o do_v separate_v from_o you_o or_o else_o formal_o as_o pâ—…pal_a and_o so_o we_o renounce_v you_o and_o all_o communion_n with_o you_o as_o be_v no_o church_n of_o christ_n but_o a_o sect_n that_o treasonable_o usurp_v his_o prerogative_n the_o pars_fw-la imperans_fw-la specifi_v or_o inform_v the_o society_n christ_n only_o be_v the_o universal_a head_n of_o all_o christian_n as_o such_o and_o of_o all_o the_o church_n with_o which_o we_o profess_v concord_n and_o communion_n in_o this_o head_n greek_o armenian_n ethiopian_n and_o protestant_n unite_v but_o the_o pope_n false_o pretend_v to_o be_v christ_n vicar-general_n be_v take_v for_o the_o universal_a head_n by_o the_o papist_n and_o in_o renounce_v this_o head_n we_o renounce_v no_o other_o church_n but_o you_o r._n b._n not_o from_o you_o as_o christian_n but_o scandalous_a offender_n who_o we_o be_v command_v to_o avoid_v we_o separate_v not_o from_o any_o but_o as_o they_o separate_v from_o christ._n w._n j._n 1._o no_o sure_a for_o if_o you_o do_v you_o must_v be_v jew_n turk_n or_o infidel_n 2._o be_v there_o 7._o no_o more_o in_o it_o do_v not_o the_o primitive_a person_n who_o begin_v your_o breach_n and_o party_n owe_v subjection_n to_o their_o respective_a ecclesiastical_a superior_n diocesan_n and_o pastor_n r._n b._n no_o none_o at_o all_o as_o they_o be_v papal_a that_o be_v the_o subordinate_a minister_n of_o the_o usurp_a universal_a bishop_n w._n j._n and_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o a_o subject_a to_o subtract_v himself_o from_o the_o obedience_n of_o a_o lawful_a pastor_n because_o he_o be_v a_o scandalous_a offender_n r._n b._n yes_o if_o his_o offence_n be_v a_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o lawful_a pastor_n and_o take_v on_o he_o a_o false_a office_n by_o usurpation_n or_o if_o he_o remain_v lawful_a quoad_fw-la hoc_fw-la as_o christian_n and_o add_v a_o treasonable_a addition_n we_o must_v have_v no_o communion_n with_o he_o at_o least_o in_o that_o unlawful_a part_n w._n j._n if_o you_o say_v he_o remain_v not_o in_o his_o former_a power_n you_o contradict_v our_o saviour_n command_v 8._o obedience_n to_o the_o scandalous_a pharisee_n etc._n etc._n r._n b._n 1._o the_o pharisee_n set_v not_o up_o a_o new_a usurp_a office_n of_o head-ship_n constitutive_a pretend_o to_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n but_o only_o abuse_v a_o lawful_a office_n that_o god_n have_v make_v 2._o yet_o christ_n require_v obedience_n to_o they_o no_o far_o than_o as_o they_o sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n and_o deliver_v the_o law_n but_o warn_v man_n to_o renounce_v they_o as_o corrupter_n and_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o their_o doctrine_n 3._o and_o this_o much_o be_v but_o till_o they_o show_v themselves_o uncurable_a and_o he_o set_v up_o new_a officer_n over_o his_o church_n and_o then_o all_o man_n be_v to_o forsake_v the_o pharisee_n government_n w._n j._n you_o destroy_v all_o ecclesiastical_a government_n and_o open_v a_o way_n to_o tread_v under_o foot_n all_o temporal_a authority_n if_o you_o hold_v these_o offence_n deprive_v he_o of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a power_n why_o not_o so_o of_o 9_o king_n and_o magistrate_n and_o parent_n and_o then_o you_o have_v spin_v a_o fair_a thread_n etc._n etc._n r._n b._n confusion_n
which_o we_o charge_v they_o with_o in_o europe_n and_o yet_o the_o papist_n so_o charge_v they_o still_o that_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o have_v reason_n for_o condemn_v they_o fear_v that_o their_o non-subjection_n to_o the_o pope_n will_v not_o seem_v enough_o with_o impartial_a man_n and_o as_o to_o the_o great_a confidence_n that_o they_o seem_v to_o place_v in_o their_o succession_n to_o st._n peter_n 6._o and_o christ_n word_n to_o he_o on_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n and_o to_o thou_o i_o give_v the_o key_n etc._n etc._n and_o feed_v my_o sheep_n i_o have_v oft_o answer_v it_o more_o full_o than_o be_v fit_a again_o to_o recite_v but_o these_o few_o hint_n i_o will_v commend_v to_o the_o reader_n 1._o that_o we_o affirm_v that_o peter_n be_v among_o they_o as_o a_o foreman_n of_o a_o jury_n and_o no_o more_o and_o so_o christ_n speak_v to_o the_o rest_n in_o speak_v to_o he_o and_o the_o same_o power_n be_v give_v to_o the_o rest_n the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v build_v on_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o head_n cornerstone_n is_n not_o this_o as_o much_o as_o be_v say_v of_o st._n peter_n christ_n give_v they_o all_o the_o power_n of_o holy_a ghost_n and_o the_o remit_v and_o retain_v sin_n bind_v and_o lose_v which_o be_v the_o key_n which_o he_o give_v to_o peter_n and_o they_o be_v all_o send_v forth_o to_o feed_v christ_n sheep_n now_o the_o father_n give_v as_o high_a title_n oft_o to_o other_o as_o to_o the_o pope_n yea_o and_o to_o peter_n see_v what_o i_o have_v cite_v in_o my_o key_n for_o catholic_n pag._n 175._o 176._o and_o what_o gataker_n have_v cite_v out_o of_o dionysius_n tertullian_n basil_n jerome_n augustine_n theodoret_n gildas_n nicephorus_n etc._n etc._n cin._n 395._o 396._o 2._o peter_n never_o exercise_v any_o authority_n over_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o call_v they_o not_o govern_v they_o not_o there_o be_v mention_n of_o paul_n reprove_v he_o gal._n 2._o but_o none_o of_o his_o reprove_v they_o schism_n be_v among_o they_o and_o great_o lament_v they_o be_v never_o direct_v to_o unite_v in_o peter_n as_o the_o way_n to_o concord_n nor_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o he_o to_o end_v they_o nay_o when_o the_o overvaluers_a of_o peter_n make_v one_o party_n in_o the_o schism_n among_o the_o corinthian_n paul_n seek_v to_o take_v they_o off_o that_o way_n and_o set_v peter_n in_o the_o same_o rank_n with_o himself_o and_o apollo_n as_o minister_n only_o by_o who_o they_o believe_v call_v they_o carnal_a for_o say_v i_o be_o of_o cephas_n never_o call_v they_o to_o unite_v in_o he_o as_o the_o head_n of_o all_o and_o have_v this_o be_v necessary_a what_o have_v this_o be_v but_o to_o betray_v the_o church_n 3._o the_o apostle_n be_v never_o proper_o bishop_n but_o of_o a_o high_a rank_n bishop_n be_v the_o fix_a overseer_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o no_o one_o have_v many_o but_o apostle_n only_o plant_v they_o and_o govern_v they_o for_o their_o confirmation_n and_o so_o pass_v on_o from_o one_o to_o another_o and_o have_v care_n of_o many_o such_o at_o once_o if_o any_o one_o church_n may_v pretend_v superiority_n by_o virtue_n of_o succession_n it_o will_v be_v jerusalem_n and_o next_o that_o ephesus_n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o john_n the_o belove_a disciple_n be_v as_o bishop_n and_o which_o have_v continue_v to_o this_o day_n 4._o the_o apostle_n as_o such_o have_v no_o successor_n nor_o as_o bishop_n in_o any_o distinct_a seat_n the_o same_o christ_n that_o call_v peter_n call_v the_o rest_n and_o call_v especial_o the_o belove_a disciple_n to_o who_o on_o the_o cross_n he_o commend_v his_o mother_n when_o peter_n have_v deny_v he_o and_o he_o promise_v to_o be_v with_o they_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n but_o no_o bishop_n on_o earth_n ever_o pretend_v to_o superiority_n over_o any_o other_o church_n as_o the_o successor_n of_o the_o other_o eleven_o apostle_n where_o be_v those_o seat_n or_o where_o ever_o be_v they_o if_o the_o apostle_n successor_n must_v rule_v the_o church_n as_o such_o tell_v we_o which_o be_v the_o other_o eleven_o and_o which_o be_v their_o diocese_n and_o of_o what_o extent_n nay_o it_o be_v stone_n considerable_a that_o even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o domination_n there_o be_v but_o five_o patriarchates_n ever_o set_v up_o and_o not_o twelve_o and_o not_o one_o of_o those_o claim_v power_n by_o virtue_n of_o succession_n from_o any_o apostle_n constantinople_n never_o pretend_v to_o it_o alexandria_n claim_v the_o honour_n of_o succession_n only_o from_o st._n mark_n who_o be_v no_o apostle_n and_o jerusalem_n from_o james_n who_o dr._n hammond_n labour_v to_o prove_v to_o have_v be_v none_o of_o the_o apostle_n but_o a_o kinsman_n of_o jesus_n only_a antioch_n and_o rome_n claim_v succession_n from_o peter_n and_o antioch_n as_o his_o first_o seat_n but_o they_o do_v on_o that_o single_a account_n claim_v power_n then_o over_o other_o church_n and_o see_v the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o the_o foundation_n of_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n and_o that_o all_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 12._o be_v mention_v equal_o as_o the_o noble_a foundation_n member_n or_o pillar_n and_o the_o people_n chide_v sharp_o by_o paul_n for_o make_v cephas_n a_o head_n what_o reason_n have_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o peter_n only_o have_v perpetual_a successor_n fix_v to_o a_o certain_a city_n and_o that_o no_o other_o of_o all_o the_o apostle_n have_v any_o such_o what_o word_n of_o god_n will_v prove_v that_o peter_n have_v leave_v his_o power_n at_o rome_n and_o no_o other_o apostle_n no_o not_o one_o have_v leave_v they_o to_o any_o place_n or_o person_n on_o earth_n yea_o and_o that_o he_o leave_v it_o more_o to_o rome_n than_o to_o antioch_n when_o antioch_n claim_v the_o first_o succession_n from_o he_o and_o rome_n but_o the_o second_o and_o when_o nilus_n and_o other_o have_v say_v so_o much_o to_o make_v it_o probable_a that_o peter_n never_o be_v at_o rome_n and_o when_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o paul_n be_v there_o and_o those_o old_a father_n that_o from_o some_o word_n of_o one_o of_o eusebius_n his_o doubtful_a author_n do_v say_v that_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n and_o bishop_n there_o do_v also_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o episcopal_a seat_n of_o paul_n and_o when_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o no_o apostle_n be_v anywhere_o a_o bishop_n formaliter_fw-la but_o only_a eminenter_fw-la as_o be_v not_o fix_v nor_o fix_v their_o power_n to_o any_o seat_n and_o dr._n hammond_n give_v very_o considerable_a conjecture_n that_o if_o peter_n and_o paul_n be_v both_o at_o rome_n they_o have_v divers_a church_n there_o paul_n be_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o uncircumcision_n and_o peter_n of_o the_o circumcision_n only_o from_o whence_o we_o may_v see_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o his_o apostle_n judge_v that_o there_o may_v be_v more_o church_n and_o bishop_n in_o one_o city_n than_o one_o much_o more_o over_o a_o thousand_o parish_n though_o as_o the_o contrary_a spirit_n prevail_v the_o contrary_a interest_n and_o opinion_n prevail_v with_o it_o these_o thing_n premise_v the_o reader_n must_v know_v that_o the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n between_o 7._o mr._n terret_n alias_o mr._n johnson_n and_o i_o be_v this_o find_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o possession_n of_o abundance_n of_o error_n and_o vanity_n he_o will_v not_o only_o persuade_v we_o that_o they_o be_v of_o god_n and_o have_v ever_o be_v the_o same_o because_o it_o be_v so_o with_o they_o now_o but_o also_o conclude_v that_o these_o carbuncle_n be_v essential_a to_o christianity_n and_o the_o church_n and_o that_o we_o can_v prove_v that_o we_o be_v a_o church_n and_o christian_n unless_o we_o prove_v that_o we_o have_v have_v from_o the_o apostle_n a_o continue_a succession_n of_o their_o error_n as_o if_o a_o man_n can_v not_o prove_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o man_n unless_o all_o his_o ancestor_n from_o adam_n have_v the_o french-pox_n or_o the_o leprosy_n on_o the_o contrary_n i_o maintain_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v his_o body_n be_v essentiate_v by_o true_a consent_n to_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n which_o be_v our_o christen_n and_o integrate_v by_o all_o the_o additional_a degree_n that_o this_o covenant_n be_v expound_v in_o the_o creed_n lord_n prayer_n and_o christian_a decalogue_n the_o lord_n supper_n be_v but_o the_o same_o covenant_n celebrate_v by_o other_o sign_n not_o for_o essence_n but_o confirmation_n that_o all_o that_o consent_n to_o the_o celebrate_v baptismal_a covenant_n hearty_o be_v member_n of_o the_o invisible_a church_n and_o all_o that_o profess_v consent_n in_o sincerity_n or_o hypocrisy_n be_v visible_a member_n
coram_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n have_v no_o other_o head_n than_o christ_n himself_o no_o vicarious_a universal_a head_n pope_n nor_o council_n that_o the_o protestant_n profess_v themselves_o member_n of_o no_o other_o universal_a church_n but_o that_o of_o which_o christ_n only_o be_v the_o head_n and_o all_o christian_n at_o least_o not_o cast_v out_o be_v member_n that_o this_o christian_a church_n have_v be_v visible_a to_o god_n by_o real_a consent_n and_o visible_a to_o man_n by_o profess_a consent_n from_o the_o first_o be_v of_o it_o to_o this_o day_n and_o when_o they_o ask_v we_o where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n we_o say_v where_o there_o be_v christian_n before_o luther_n our_o religion_n be_v nothing_o but_o simple_a christianity_n we_o be_v oâ—…_n no_o catholic_n church_n but_o the_o universality_n of_o christian_n we_o know_v no_o other_o but_o lament_v that_o the_o pride_n of_o the_o clergy_n grow_v up_o from_o parochial_a to_o diocesan_n and_o from_o diocesan_n to_o metropolitical_n and_o patriarchal_a and_o thence_o to_o papal_a have_v invent_v any_o other_o and_o that_o the_o serpent_n that_o tempt_v eve_n have_v draw_v they_o from_o the_o christian_a simplicity_n they_o deny_v not_o the_o successive_a visibility_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o christian_a church_n we_o desire_v no_o more_o we_o own_v we_o know_v no_o other_o religion_n and_o no_o other_o church_n but_o the_o roman_a artifice_n here_o come_v in_o and_o when_o their_o humane_a universal_a head_n have_v make_v the_o grand_a schism_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n hence_o they_o have_v learn_v to_o 8._o make_v christian_n of_o no_o christian_n and_o no_o christian_n of_o christian_n as_o pride_n and_o ignorance_n serve_v this_o usurp_a interest_n please_v their_o doctor_n be_v not_o agree_v whether_o any_o more_o be_v necessary_a explicit_o to_o be_v believe_v to_o salvation_n than_o that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n and_o that_o our_o work_n shall_v be_v reward_v without_o believe_v a_o word_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o gospel_n and_o whether_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o in_o christ_n be_v christian_n or_o whether_o be_v no_o christian_n yet_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o the_o great_a part_n be_v here_o on_o the_o wide_a latitudinarian_a side_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o fr._n s._n clara_n problem_n deus_fw-la nat._n grat._n and_o in_o the_o word_n of_o this_o w._n i._n before_o answer_v and_o yet_o these_o charitable_a man_n conclude_v that_o two_o or_o three_o part_n of_o the_o true_a christian_a world_n abassine_n copty_v syrian_n jacobite_n georgian_n armenian_n greek_n moscovite_n protestant_n be_v all_o out_o of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n though_o their_o own_o friar_n that_o have_v live_v among_o some_o of_o they_o in_o the_o east_n profess_v that_o they_o be_v no_o heretic_n and_o be_v better_a man_n than_o the_o papist_n be_v and_o none_o worse_o of_o life_n than_o the_o roman_a party_n and_o whence_o be_v this_o strange_a difference_n why_o it_o be_v because_o that_o these_o be_v none_o of_o they_o subject_n to_o the_o pope_n which_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o those_o be_v that_o believe_v only_o that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n and_o a_o reward_n but_o how_o be_v this_o their_o only_a explicit_a faith_n if_o they_o must_v also_o believe_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o vice-christ_n and_o some_o of_o they_o tell_v you_o further_o that_o he_o that_o shall_v so_o far_o believe_v his_o ghostly_a father_n the_o priest_n sup_n as_o to_o hold_v that_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o love_n god_n because_o the_o priest_n tell_v he_o so_o be_v not_o only_o excusable_a but_o he_o merit_v by_o it_o so_o much_o more_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v it_o to_o love_v the_o priest_n than_o to_o love_v god_n and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o their_o own_o leader_n confess_v that_o it_o be_v no_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v peter_n successor_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o revelation_n that_o the_o church-governor_n 9_o must_v be_v know_v as_o i_o have_v show_v out_o of_o ri._n smyth_n bishop_n of_o chalcedon_n and_o of_o england_n and_o in_o the_o fore-confuted_n write_n of_o w._n i_o the_o thing_n that_o i_o maintain_v be_v i._o that_o the_o protestant_n religion_n and_o church_n be_v only_o the_o christian_n as_o such_o have_v a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n as_o such_o which_o the_o papist_n 10._o deny_v not_o ii_o that_o the_o papal_a church_n as_o such_o can_v prove_v its_o constant_a visibility_n and_o succession_n nay_o though_o it_o be_v their_o part_n to_o prove_v it_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o prove_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v a_o novelty_n 2._o that_o it_o have_v be_v often_o and_o notorious_o interrupt_v and_o their_o papacy_n have_v not_o have_v any_o continue_a succession_n of_o man_n true_o pope_n by_o their_o own_o law_n and_o rule_n and_o in_o their_o own_o account_n chap._n i._n the_o confutation_n of_o w._n j_n reply_n the_o first_o regardable_a passage_n in_o w._n i_n reply_n be_v p._n 53_o 54._o where_o he_o maintain_v that_o whatsoever_o have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n by_o christ_n institution_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o 1_o church_n and_o nothing_o mere_o integral_v or_o accident_n because_o i_o have_v omit_v the_o word_n ever_o in_o the_o confutation_n he_o take_v that_o as_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o all_o that_o i_o say_v against_o he_o and_o challenge_v i_o still_o to_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o any_o institution_n not_o essential_a to_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n that_o have_v be_v ever_o in_o it_o but_o reader_n be_v perpetuity_n any_o proof_n of_o a_o essential_a he_o be_v force_v to_o confess_v that_o as_o other_o society_n so_o the_o church_n have_v accident_n but_o he_o faith_n no_o accident_n institute_v have_v be_v 2._o ever_o in_o it_o it_o may_v be_v we_o shall_v have_v a_o quibble_n here_o upon_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n ever_o whether_o it_o be_v 3_o from_o everlasting_a or_o from_o the_o creation_n or_o before_o christ_n incarnation_n or_o before_o his_o resurrection_n or_o the_o form_n of_o his_o church_n by_o the_o spirit_n in_o the_o apostle_n but_o in_o consistency_n with_o his_o own_o cause_n which_o be_v that_o the_o papacy_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n he_o must_v take_v up_o with_o this_o last_o sense_n well_o let_v we_o see_v what_o work_n these_o man_n make_v and_o how_o they_o be_v take_v in_o the_o trap_n that_o they_o lie_v for_o other_o but_o first_o he_o shall_v have_v some_o confute_v instance_n 4._o 1._o every_o word_n of_o christ_n own_o doctrine_n and_o speech_n record_v in_o the_o gospel_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n and_o institute_v by_o christ_n but_o every_o word_n of_o christ_n own_o doctrine_n and_o speech_n record_v in_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o the_o church_n therefore_o every_o thing_n institute_v by_o christ_n that_o have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o it_o if_o you_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o all_o write_v till_o after_o some_o year_n it_o be_v yet_o all_o in_o the_o church_n even_o in_o the_o mind_n of_o they_o that_o write_v it_o and_o the_o other_o apostle_n and_o in_o their_o preach_n as_o be_o like_a if_o you_o say_v that_o all_o this_o be_v essential_a alas_o then_o if_o false_a copy_n have_v lose_v we_o a_o word_n the_o church_n be_v lose_v and_o those_o church_n that_o receive_v not_o some_o word_n be_v unchurch_v that_o christ_n suffer_v under_o pontius_n pilate_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n creed_n and_o yet_o the_o name_n of_o pontius_n pilate_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o christianity_n 2._o the_o administer_a the_o lord_n supper_n in_o both_o kind_n bread_n and_o wine_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n and_o of_o christ_n own_o institution_n be_v this_o essential_a to_o the_o church_n perhaps_o some_o will_v have_v the_o impudence_n to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o now_o in_o it_o because_o the_o pope_n have_v cast_v it_o out_o but_o it_o be_v now_o in_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n and_o we_o may_v as_o well_o say_v the_o papacy_n be_v not_o now_o in_o because_o other_o church_n do_v reject_v it_o 3._o prayer_n in_o a_o know_a tongue_n be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n and_o of_o christ_n institution_n and_o yet_o you_o think_v it_o not_o essential_a to_o it_o 4._o the_o use_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n as_o such_o thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o any_o grave_a image_n etc._n etc._n be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o you_o have_v leave_v it_o out_o of_o the_o decalogue_n 5._o the_o office_n of_o deacon_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n since_o their_o institution_n act._n 6._o yet_o few_o think_v they_o essential_a to_o the_o
to_o he_o etc._n etc._n 14._o answ._n 1._o who_o can_v tell_v that_o peter_n do_v preach_v his_o own_o supremacy_n i_o prove_v he_o do_v not_o because_o if_o he_o do_v it_o be_v as_o necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v or_o not_o if_o not_o he_o preach_v it_o not_o among_o thing_n necessary_a if_o yea_o then_o have_v he_o so_o preach_v it_o that_o text_n or_o some_o other_o will_v have_v mention_v it_o peter_n or_o paul_n or_o some_o apostle_n will_v have_v express_v it_o on_o record_n which_o they_o have_v not_o do_v yea_o have_v deny_v it_o 2._o those_o that_o paul_n preach_v to_o act._n 16._o and_o other_o place_n address_v their_o speech_n first_o to_o he_o but_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o therefore_o he_o be_v governor_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n how_o unhappy_a be_v great_a conqueror_n that_o must_v fight_v many_o bloody_a battle_n to_o win_v one_o kingdom_n of_o another_o man_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o pope_n who_o without_o a_o blow_n or_o a_o word_n of_o good_a reason_n can_v hope_v by_o such_o gross_a sophism_n as_o these_o to_o get_v the_o monarchy_n of_o the_o whole_a earth_n to_o my_o instance_n of_o those_o convert_v by_o the_o english_a and_o dutch_a in_o the_o indies_n he_o bid_v i_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o true_a faith_n 15._o answ._n they_o that_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n the_o creed_n and_o in_o general_a the_o truth_n of_o all_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o be_v devote_v to_o god_n by_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n and_o teach_v to_o conform_v their_o desire_n to_o the_o lord's-prayer_n and_o their_o practice_n to_o the_o decalogue_n to_o live_v sober_o righteous_o and_o godly_a and_o in_o love_n to_o god_n and_o man_n and_o in_o good_a work_n and_o hope_v of_o heaven_n be_v instruct_v in_o the_o true_a faith_n but_o such_o be_v they_o in_o question_n etc._n etc._n do_v you_o so_o oft_o say_v that_o less_o than_o all_o the_o creed_n be_v necessitate_v medii_fw-la to_o be_v believe_v and_o many_o of_o you_o not_o so_o much_o as_o christ_n himself_o and_o yet_o be_v not_o all_o that_o protestant_n teach_v the_o true_a faith_n o_o impartiality_n next_o to_o my_o instance_n of_o the_o abassian_a empire_n he_o bid_v i_o also_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v orthodox_n catholic_n christian_n answ._n 1._o i_o must_v first_o know_v what_o you_o mean_v by_o orthodox_n and_o catholic_n which_o your_o ill_a 16._o faculty_n of_o expound_v make_v i_o despair_v of_o if_o by_o orthodox_n you_o mean_v such_o as_o have_v no_o error_n i_o can_v prove_v it_o but_o it_o be_v shame_n for_o such_o erroneous_a man_n as_o you_o to_o demand_v it_o but_o if_o you_o mean_v but_o such_o as_o hold_v all_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o much_o more_o the_o former_a argument_n join_v with_o all_o just_a testimony_n of_o they_o such_o as_o you_o have_v in_o damianus_n a_o go_v alvarez_n godignus_n etc._n etc._n prove_v it_o so_o if_o by_o catholic_n you_o mean_v a_o papist_n i_o can_v prove_v it_o but_o the_o eontrary_a but_o if_o you_o mean_v part_v of_o the_o universal_a church_n it_o be_v prove_v as_o afore_o note_v here_o what_o vafritious_a man_n these_o be_v that_o save_v or_o â—…amn_v empire_n to_o and_o fro_o as_o the_o interest_n of_o their_o argue_v require_v when_o we_o prove_v that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v twice_o or_o thrice_o as_o great_a as_o all_o the_o papal_a church_n then_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o greek_n abassine_n etc._n etc._n be_v of_o their_o mind_n and_o they_o feign_v that_o the_o greek_n armenian_n abassine_n etc._n etc._n be_v all_o subject_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o have_v submit_v to_o he_o godignus_n write_v to_o confute_v one_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n that_o affirm_v the_o abassine_n to_o be_v for_o the_o pope_n but_o when_o their_o cause_n bid_v they_o say_v otherwise_o than_o we_o be_v challenge_v to_o prove_v they_o catholic_n christians_o and_o orthodox_n have_v you_o put_v i_o to_o prove_v the_o papist_n such_o you_o have_v put_v i_o hard_o to_o it_o our_o next_o point_n be_v of_o the_o visibility_n of_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n where_o he_o say_v p._n 65._o 17._o he_o be_v most_o certain_o a_o invisible_a pastor_n both_o in_o heaven_n and_o on_o earth_n for_o though_o his_o person_n may_v be_v see_v there_o yet_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o pastorship_n consist_v only_o in_o spiritual_a influence_n and_o internal_a grace_n can_v be_v see_v by_o any_o corporal_a eye_n whatsoever_o therefore_o as_o a_o pastor_n of_o the_o militant_a church_n he_o be_v whole_o invisible_a so_o you_o put_v a_o visible_a body_n without_o a_o visible_a head_n all_o that_o be_v visible_a in_o the_o pastoral_n function_n be_v perform_v by_o visible_a pastor_n and_o all_o that_o be_v invisible_a by_o our_o saviour_n so_o you_o by_o a_o strange_a piece_n of_o novelty_n constitute_v a_o visible_a body_n without_o a_o visible_a head_n necessary_a you_o destroy_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o frame_v a_o monster_n answ._n what_o abundance_n of_o heresy_n must_v i_o charge_v on_o such_o man_n if_o i_o judge_v they_o according_a to_o their_o term_n and_o rigour_n of_o judge_v 1._o christ_n as_o a_o visible_a head_n of_o the_o church_n be_v here_o deny_v whereas_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o that_o he_o be_v visus_n but_o visibilis_fw-la that_o we_o assert_v 2._o and_o he_o be_v see_v till_o about_o thirty_o three_o year_n of_o age_n on_o earrh_n he_o be_v see_v to_o do_v miracle_n suffer_v rise_v ascend_v 3._o he_o be_v see_v of_o paul_n and_o stephen_n after_o his_o ascension_n 4._o the_o poor_a scatter_a flock_n on_o earth_n be_v but_o a_o handful_n to_o the_o church_n triumphant_a that_o see_v he_o still_o in_o heaven_n and_o it_o be_v the_o same_o body_n 5._o he_o will_v come_v visible_a in_o glory_n to_o judgement_n 6._o every_o believer_n after_o a_o few_o hasty_a hour_n pass_v to_o the_o sight_n of_o he_o 7._o and_o we_o shall_v all_o see_v he_o in_o heaven_n for_o ever_o compare_v this_o now_o with_o the_o visibility_n of_o the_o great_a earthly_a monarch_n who_o be_v never_o see_v to_o the_o thousand_o person_n of_o their_o empire_n and_o rare_o to_o any_o but_o their_o courtier_n and_o some_o of_o they_o rare_o to_o the_o most_o of_o they_o but_o to_o some_o very_o few_o and_o quick_o die_v and_o be_v see_v here_o no_o more_o and_o yet_o may_v not_o christ_n be_v call_v a_o visible_a head_n and_o yet_o we_o say_v but_o that_o he_o be_v visible_a in_o tantum_fw-la and_o not_o everywhere_o nor_o to_o every_o one_o 2._o but_o it_o be_v not_o his_o person_n that_o he_o say_v be_v invisible_a but_o worse_a than_o that_o it_o be_v the_o exercise_n of_o his_o pastorship_n which_o he_o erroneous_o that_o i_o say_v not_o heretical_o affirm_v to_o consist_v only_o in_o spiritual_a influx_n and_o internal_a grace_n so_o that_o here_o 1._o he_o deny_v all_o christ_n visible_a teach_n and_o government_n while_o he_o be_v on_o earth_n be_v his_o word_n to_o be_v strict_o understand_v and_o all_o his_o mission_n and_o commission_v of_o his_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n 2._o he_o deny_v all_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n which_o be_v christ_n visible_a doctrine_n law_n and_o promise_n and_o so_o the_o visible_a exercise_n of_o his_o office_n as_o the_o king_n law_n be_v of_o he_o 3._o he_o deny_v all_o christ_n visible_a administration_n by_o his_o officer_n prince_n and_o pastor_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n that_o christ_n do_v it_o not_o because_o they_o do_v it_o whereas_o it_o be_v he_o that_o visible_o rule_v as_o to_o the_o effect_n here_o question_v by_o they_o as_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a government_n of_o the_o king_n which_o be_v exercise_v all_o abroad_o the_o kingdom_n by_o his_o command_n 4._o he_o deny_v christ_n visible_a mercy_n provision_n protection_n deliverance_n of_o many_o sort_n which_o be_v all_o part_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o office_n 5._o he_o deny_v all_o the_o visible_a miracle_n which_o christ_n have_v wrought_v by_o other_o whilst_o yet_o their_o church_n so_o boast_v of_o they_o as_o if_o they_o be_v their_o very_a foundation_n as_o i_o show_v out_o of_o knot_n against_o chillingworth_n who_o ultimate_o resolve_v their_o faith_n into_o they_o and_o they_o will_v have_v we_o think_v that_o they_o be_v costant_a thing_n if_o you_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o see_v here_o i_o answer_v it_o be_v not_o christ_n person_n now_o who_o visibility_n he_o speak_v of_o but_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o office_n 6._o he_o deny_v all_o the_o visible_a punishment_n which_o christ_n himself_o inflict_v on_o his_o sin_v people_n and_o on_o his_o enemy_n though_o they_o be_v many_o and_o notorious_a and_o as_o god_n be_v know_v by_o the_o
andrew_n cite_v by_o i_o elsewhere_o and_o many_o a_o protestant_n that_o take_v peter_n to_o have_v be_v among_o the_o apostle_n as_o the_o foreman_n of_o a_o jury_n to_o the_o rest_n will_v say_v the_o same_o word_n but_o he_o intimate_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v peter_n successor_n true_o he_o so_o suppose_v he_o as_o a_o bishop_n but_o not_o as_o a_o apostle_n and_o therefore_o not_o in_o equality_n of_o power_n and_o common_a reasâ—…n_n will_v interpret_v he_o in_o the_o common_a sense_n of_o all_o the_o council_n and_o those_o time_n viz._n as_o have_v the_o first_o place_n in_o the_o imperial_a council_n and_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o patriarch_n in_o the_o empire_n but_o not_o as_o be_v the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o world_n there_o be_v no_o probability_n that_o this_o one_o man_n extend_v his_o power_n further_o than_o the_o empire_n and_o so_o that_o he_o be_v a_o papist_n and_o yet_o you_o have_v not_o prove_v one_o in_o 400_o year_n and_o more_o but_o he_o say_v have_v not_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n consent_v they_o will_v have_v contradict_v one_o impose_v a_o superior_a and_o a_o judge_n answ._n 1._o they_o never_o take_v he_o for_o a_o judge_n any_o further_a than_o as_o the_o first_o patriarch_n have_v the_o first_o seat_n and_o vote_n 2._o cyril_n be_v there_o the_o first_o the_o legate_n come_v after_o the_o decree_n past_a 3._o cyril_n be_v glad_a of_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o west_n it_o be_v become_v too_o much_o of_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o day_n whether_o nestorius_n or_o he_o be_v the_o wise_a speaker_n and_o shall_v prevail_v 4._o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o government_n of_o all_o the_o world_n show_v we_o when_o that_o council_n subject_v any_o without_o the_o empire_n to_o the_o pope_n or_o to_o themselves_o 5._o yea_o in_o the_o empire_n he_o be_v blind_a that_o see_v not_o that_o council_n be_v above_o pope_n and_o when_o the_o major_a vote_n carry_v it_o they_o condemn_v pope_n as_o well_o as_o other_o as_o they_o do_v honorius_n and_o many_o since_o pag._n 90._o you_o have_v another_o instance_n of_o he_o say_v and_o unsay_n when_o i_o name_v the_o 3_o church_n of_o ethiopia_n india_n the_o outer_a armenia_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v not_o under_o the_o pope_n jurisdiction_n he_o faith_n i_o must_v mean_v that_o they_o be_v never_o under_o it_o for_o if_o they_o be_v under_o he_o in_o any_o age_n and_o for_o any_o time_n since_o christ_n you_o can_v never_o make_v they_o a_o instance_n of_o those_o who_o be_v perpetual_o in_o all_o age_n a_o visible_a congregation_n of_o christian_n not_o acknowledge_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n ans._n and_o yet_o this_o same_o man_n say_v before_o that_o he_o do_v not_o put_v i_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o all_o age_n they_o do_v not_o own_o the_o pope_n but_o that_o they_o that_o own_v he_o not_o now_o have_v be_v a_o church_n any_o other_o way_n true_o unite_v who_o can_v answer_v he_o that_o say_v and_o unsaith_o and_o change_v his_o cause_n as_o the_o occasion_n tempt_v he_o i_o have_v oft_o tell_v he_o 1._o i_o prove_v that_o the_o extra-imperial_a church_n never_o be_v subject_n to_o the_o pope_n unless_o when_o any_o of_o they_o by_o conquest_n fall_v under_o the_o empire_n or_o on_o such_o a_o odd_a accident_n in_o some_o singular_a instance_n which_o i_o have_v enumerate_v in_o my_o naked_a popery_n 2._o and_o that_o no_o church_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n own_v he_o as_o the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o world_n for_o above_o 400_o if_o not_o above_o 600_o year_n 3._o and_o that_o those_o that_o own_v he_o not_o as_o britain_n at_o the_o first_o and_o own_v he_o after_o and_o disow_v he_o again_o be_v still_o christian_a church_n unite_v in_o christ._n but_o the_o man_n be_v loath_a to_o understand_v and_o pag._n 91._o say_v you_o mean_v all_o other_o extra-imperial_a nation_n or_o some_o if_o all_o i_o find_v the_o quite_o contrary_a for_o the_o goth_n successive_o inhabitant_n of_o spain_n never_o acknowledge_v themselves_o subject_n of_o the_o empire_n who_o yet_o be_v now_o subject_a to_o the_o roman_a bishop_n and_o consequent_o be_v and_o be_v sometime_o under_o he_o ans._n i_o have_v oft_o and_o plain_a enough_o tell_v you_o my_o meaning_n this_o be_v very_o cautelous_o write_v 1._o if_o the_o goth_n in_o spain_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o empire_n the_o old_a inhabitant_n be_v before_o the_o goth_n conquer_v they_o and_o the_o goth_n themselves_o when_o by_o theodosius_n leave_n they_o dwell_v in_o thrace_n and_o near_o it_o and_o though_o the_o goth_n become_v their_o master_n they_o do_v not_o exterminate_v all_o the_o inhabitant_n who_o have_v be_v use_v to_o some_o subjection_n to_o the_o pope_n 2._o yet_o how_o little_a spain_n then_o depend_v on_o the_o pope_n be_v know_v even_o by_o the_o current_n of_o all_o the_o gothick_n council_n the_o toletane_a hispalense_v etc._n etc._n where_o their_o king_n call_v they_o and_o be_v oft_o present_a and_o make_v certain_a part_n of_o their_o canon_n and_o be_v over_o and_o over_o magnify_v and_o canon_n make_v for_o their_o honour_n and_o security_n and_o the_o due_a election_n of_o successor_n when_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o subjection_n to_o the_o pope_n 3._o and_o you_o do_v well_o in_o affirm_v no_o more_o but_o that_o spain_n be_v now_o and_o therefore_o sometime_o under_o the_o pope_n that_o they_o be_v now_o so_o indeed_o their_o inquisition_n witness_v nor_o be_v it_o ever_o in_o my_o thought_n to_o deny_v it_o but_o what_o of_o that_o 〈◊〉_d he_o add_v and_o the_o swede_n and_o dane_n though_o now_o they_o reject_v all_o obedience_n to_o he_o yet_o in_o the_o year_n 1500_o they_o acknowledge_v he_o etc._n etc._n ans._n very_o true_a and_o what_o of_o all_o this_o no_o doubt_v but_o long_o before_o 1500_o the_o pope_n get_v possession_n of_o the_o western_a church_n we_o doubt_v not_o of_o it_o but_o he_o tell_v i_o that_o to_o maintain_v my_o cause_n i_o must_v show_v that_o all_o the_o extra-imperial_a church_n be_v from_o under_o the_o pope_n ans._n my_o causâ—…_n be_v not_o of_o your_o state_v but_o my_o own_o i_o maintain_v 1._o that_o the_o pope_n be_v never_o make_v the_o bishop_n of_o all_o the_o world_n 2._o and_o that_o the_o primacy_n so_o much_o mention_v in_o the_o ancient_a canon_n be_v only_o over_o or_o in_o the_o imperial_a church_n and_o be_v a_o humane_a institution_n and_o that_o the_o council_n and_o emperor_n never_o pretend_v to_o give_v or_o acknowledge_v any_o more_o nor_o do_v the_o council_n themselves_o and_o all_o the_o patriarch_n pretend_v to_o any_o more_o nor_o dream_n of_o govern_v all_o the_o world_n 3._o that_o the_o church_n that_o be_v from_o the_o begin_n without_o the_o empire_n be_v none_o of_o they_o subject_n to_o the_o pope_n for_o above_o 400_o if_o not_o 500_o or_o 600_o year_n 4._o that_o the_o empire_n of_o abassia_n and_o all_o the_o eastern_a and_o southern_a extra-imperial_a church_n persia_n india_n etc._n etc._n be_v never_o under_o the_o pope_n to_o this_o day_n save_v that_o the_o portugâ—…ls_n and_o spaniard_n have_v late_o get_v some_o foot_n in_o part_n of_o the_o indies_n 5._o that_o the_o whole_a greek_a church_n the_o armenian_n georgian_n syrian_n egyptian_n etc._n etc._n never_o be_v under_o the_o pope_n as_o pope_n that_o be_v as_o the_o universal_a bishop_n of_o all_o the_o world_n but_o only_o as_o the_o primate_n of_o the_o empire_n 6._o that_o even_o in_o that_o relation_n he_o be_v not_o proper_o the_o governor_n of_o any_o of_o the_o diocese_n of_o the_o other_o patriarch_n nor_o the_o other_o distinct_a as_o diocese_n carthage_n justinianâ—…_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o prime_a patriarch_n that_o have_v the_o first_o seat_n in_o council_n which_o put_v in_o and_o out_o bishop_n at_o their_o pleasure_n with_o the_o emperor_n will_n even_a patriarch_n and_o all_o 7._o that_o those_o that_o be_v under_o he_o for_o some_o time_n as_o britain_n be_v divers_a of_o they_o from_o under_o he_o before_o and_o after_o and_o yet_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v not_o mis-understand_a the_o matter_n and_o this_o man_n importunity_n i_o must_v repeat_v the_o exception_n lay_v down_o in_o my_o naked_a popery_n pag._n 106._o 107._o and_o tell_v he_o what_o i_o grant_v he_o 1._o some_o city_n that_o be_v near_o to_o scythia_n and_o persiâ—…_n have_v bishop_n to_o who_o some_o neighbour_n scythian_n and_o persian_n may_v be_v voluntary_a subject_n 2._o some_o city_n and_o country_n be_v sometime_o under_o the_o roman_a power_n and_o sometime_o under_o the_o enemy_n persian_n parthian_n armenian_n goth_n vandal_n as_o africa_n etc._n etc._n when_o they_o be_v of_o the_o empire_n their_o bishop_n come_v to_o council_n and_o when_o they_o be_v under_o heathen_a
and_o the_o claim_n of_o the_o monarchy_n of_o all_o the_o earth_n be_v then_o but_o in_o the_o egg_n even_o after_o 600_o year_n and_o come_v not_o into_o the_o open_a world_n till_o about_o the_o time_n that_o mahomet_n come_v else_o undoubted_o your_o lyturgick_a commemoration_n and_o prayer_n will_v have_v have_v some_o mention_n of_o the_o universal_a bishop_n as_o well_o as_o our_o prayer_n mention_v the_o king_n and_o bishop_n especial_o when_o it_o be_v then_o the_o custom_n to_o record_v and_o commemorate_v all_o the_o patriarch_n and_o great_a prelate_n and_o the_o imposition_n will_v have_v come_v forth_o as_o by_o his_o authority_n as_o the_o trent_n symbolical_a oath_n do_v and_o as_o our_o lyturgie_n do_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n and_o convocation_n sure_o this_o be_v much_o against_o you_o because_o he_o know_v not_o the_o scholiaste_v mention_v by_o usher_n he_o question_v his_o citation_n about_o the_o change_n of_o the_o ethiopic_a lyturgie_n i_o next_o add_v that_o constantin_n letter_n of_o request_n to_o the_o king_n of_o persia_n for_o the_o church_n there_o mention_v by_o eusebius_n in_o vit._n const._n do_v intimate_v that_o then_o the_o roman_a bishop_n rule_v not_o 4._o there_o to_o this_o he_o say_v why_o so_o the_o pope_n may_v command_v and_o the_o emperor_n entreat_v answ._n 1._o this_o show_v that_o the_o emperor_n who_o use_v to_o call_v council_n call_v none_o out_o of_o persia_n for_o they_o have_v no_o power_n there_o 2._o and_o withal_o why_o be_v there_o not_o a_o syllable_n in_o any_o church-history_n or_o credible_a author_n that_o we_o have_v hear_v of_o that_o mention_v that_o ever_o the_o pope_n send_v one_o command_v into_o persia_n or_o that_o ever_o he_o correct_v suspend_v or_o depose_v any_o bishop_n there_o or_o excommunicate_v any_o there_o though_o indeed_o that_o have_v be_v no_o sign_n of_o govern_v power_n see_v a_o equal_a may_v renounce_v communion_n with_o a_o equal_a heretical_a society_n or_o person_n why_o be_v there_o no_o mention_n that_o ever_o any_o general_a council_n do_v any_o of_o this_o no_o nor_o ever_o take_v any_o such_o exterior_a church_n into_o their_o care_n any_o otherwise_o than_o as_o neighbour_n to_o help_v they_o nor_o never_o make_v any_o one_o govern_v canon_n for_o they_o and_o i_o pray_v you_o how_o will_v the_o persian_a king_n that_o must_v be_v entreat_v by_o constantine_n have_v take_v it_o to_o have_v the_o religion_n of_o his_o kingdom_n under_o the_o command_n of_o one_o of_o constantine_n subject_n but_o you_o have_v the_o affirmative_a let_v we_o see_v your_o proof_n that_o ever_o the_o pope_n govern_v the_o persian_a church_n next_o i_o note_v that_o even_o at_o home_o here_o the_o scot_n and_o britain_n obey_v not_o the_o pope_n even_o in_o the_o day_n of_o gregory_n above_o 600_o but_o resist_v his_o change_n and_o refuse_v communion_n with_o his_o minister_n to_o this_o he_o reply_v that_o 1._o this_o be_v their_o error_n as_o our_o disobedience_n now_o be_v and_o beda_n so_o charge_v it_o on_o they_o that_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o have_v never_o be_v under_o the_o pope_n 2._o that_o they_o also_o hold_v that_o which_o be_v condemn_v as_o a_o heresy_n at_o nice_a yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o be_v not_o under_o that_o council_n authority_n 3._o they_o also_o refuse_v communion_n with_o the_o english_a convert_v answ._n these_o word_n signify_v what_o you_o will_v have_v we_o believe_v but_o let_v we_o try_v what_o more_o 1._o see_v you_o can_v bring_v no_o word_n of_o proof_n that_o ever_o they_o have_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o pope_n before_o and_o 2._o see_v they_o be_v find_v utter_o alien_n to_o his_o subjection_n and_o 3._o see_v they_o be_v find_v in_o possession_n of_o opinion_n and_o custom_n quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o pope_n 4._o and_o see_v they_o plead_v tradition_n for_o this_o 5._o and_o see_v they_o renounce_v communion_n with_o those_o that_o come_v to_o subjugate_v they_o and_o 6._o see_v the_o pope_n minister_n never_o pretend_v to_o any_o ancient_a possession_n in_o plead_v with_o they_o as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o beda_n 7._o and_o see_v we_o read_v in_o beda_n gildas_n and_o other_o that_o they_o have_v heretofore_o make_v use_n of_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o french_a church_n by_o germanus_n and_o lupus_n as_o more_o neighbour_n without_o any_o mention_n of_o subjection_n to_o rome_n let_v the_o reader_n that_o care_v what_o he_o believe_v now_o judge_v whether_o ever_o the_o scot_n and_o britain_n be_v before_o subject_a â—…o_o the_o pope_n 2._o it_o be_v false_a that_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a condemn_v their_o easter-practice_n as_o a_o heresy_n though_o they_o unite_v on_o a_o contrary_a resolution_n and_o as_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o that_o council_n have_v no_o authority_n out_o of_o the_o empire_n and_o so_o not_o over_o britain_n when_o it_o be_v out_o of_o the_o empire_n so_o this_o british_a custom_n plain_o intimate_v that_o britain_n have_v not_o receive_v the_o decree_n of_o that_o council_n 3._o that_o they_o refuse_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o english_a as_o half_a papist_n it_o be_v no_o great_a wonder_n and_o yet_o i_o remember_v no_o proof_n of_o that_o at_o all_o in_o beda_n but_o only_o that_o take_v the_o english_a for_o pagan-tyrant_n that_o conquer_a and_o oppress_v they_o they_o refuse_v to_o join_v with_o augustine_n the_o monki_n in_o preach_v to_o they_o it_o be_v like_o take_v it_o for_o a_o hopeless_a attempt_n in_o they_o that_o be_v odious_a to_o they_o and_o open_a enemy_n and_o not_o to_o be_v trust_v next_o i_o recite_v the_o word_n of_o their_o reinerius_n cont._n waidens_n catal._n bibl._n pat._n to._n 4._o p._n 773._o 16._o the_o church_n of_o the_o aâ—…enians_n ethiopian_n and_o indian_n and_o the_o rest_n which_o the_o apostle_n convert_v be_v not_o under_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n one_o will_v think_v plain_a word_n he_o reply_v no_o more_o be_v you_o what_o then_o our_o question_n be_v not_o of_o what_o be_v do_v de_fw-la facto_fw-la for_o the_o â—…present_v but_o what_o de_fw-mi jure_v aught_o to_o be_v do_v or_o have_v be_v do_v the_o author_n say_v not_o these_o nation_n be_v never_o under_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o be_v not_o now_o aus_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o you_o desire_v to_o be_v the_o expositor_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o all_o other_o book_n for_o that_o be_v the_o only_a device_n to_o make_v they_o speak_v what_o you_o will_v have_v they_o if_o gregory_n the_o seven_o be_v the_o expositor_n of_o st._n paul_n no_o doubt_n but_o st._n paul_n shall_v be_v for_o the_o power_n of_o pope_n to_o depose_v king_n and_o emperor_n if_o innocent_a the_o three_o be_v his_o expositor_n no_o doubt_n but_o by_o bread_n 1_n cor._n 11._o he_o mean_v no_o bread_n and_o by_o this_o cup_n no_o wine_n and_o i_o confess_v there_o be_v great_a reason_n that_o you_o shall_v be_v the_o infallible_a expositor_n of_o reynerius_n than_o of_o christ_n or_o paul_n for_o he_o be_v more_o your_o own_o and_o under_o your_o government_n but_o this_o reynerius_n be_v a_o unhappy_a speaker_n and_o if_o he_o be_v here_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o 1._o why_o do_v you_o speak_v in_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o any_o ordinary_a reader_n will_v think_v that_o you_o speak_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la &_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la and_o yet_o mean_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la only_o 2._o why_o speak_v you_o so_o as_o a_o ordinary_a reader_n will_v think_v that_o you_o speak_v dâ—…_n statu_fw-la statuto_fw-la when_o you_o mean_v but_o de_fw-fr praeente_fw-la &_o statu_fw-la inordinato_fw-la 3._o why_o speak_v you_o of_o so_o great_a a_o sin_n as_o rebellion_n against_o the_o vice-christ_n and_o schism_n from_o the_o universal_a church_n without_o any_o note_n of_o reprehension_n 4._o why_o name_v you_o the_o old_a extra_fw-la imperial_a church_n only_o and_o not_o those_o that_o since_o renounce_v rome_n as_o all_o the_o greek_a church_n if_o you_o mean_v but_o what_o you_o charge_v the_o greek_a church_n with_o have_v you_o not_o more_o easy_o fasten_v a_o charge_n of_o rebellion_n on_o all_o those_o eustern_a church_n that_o sometime_o acknowledge_v some_o primacy_n of_o rome_n than_o on_o those_o that_o the_o world_n know_v be_v never_o under_o he_o 5._o and_o why_o do_v you_o say_v also_o in_o general_n and_o the_o rest_n which_o the_o apostle_n convert_v be_v not_o under_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n if_o there_o be_v not_o some_o special_a reason_n for_o it_o we_o take_v your_o meaning_n to_o be_v though_o those_o in_o the_o empire_n and_o many_o without_o it_o that_o be_v turn_v from_o infidelity_n by_o the_o pope_n subject_n be_v under_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o first_o by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o empire_n and_o council_n and_o the_o latter_a
by_o voluntary_a subjection_n yet_o so_o be_v not_o the_o church_n which_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n plant_v without_o the_o empire_n aâ—…_n those_o apostle_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o st._n peter_n 6._o and_o why_o do_v you_o so_o arrogant_o accuse_v such_o vast_a church_n as_o armâ—…nia_n ethiopia_n india_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n plant_v beside_o peter_n and_o paul_n and_o take_v they_o all_o for_o rebel_n and_o schismatic_n and_o yet_o bring_v no_o word_n of_o proof_n for_o your_o accusation_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v reynerius_n though_o he_o revolt_v from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o his_o time_n be_v a_o honest_a man_n than_o the_o pope_n that_o shall_v thus_o be_v his_o expositor_n and_o yet_o w._n i_o be_v not_o the_o pope_n and_o therefore_o i_o question_v his_o partial_a exposition_n next_o i_o mention_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n which_o say_v that_o the_o father_n in_o council_n give_v rome_n the_o pre-eminence_n etc._n etc._n he_o reply_v that_o 1._o the_o greek_a word_n be_v 17._o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d exhibit_v or_o defer_v to_o rome_n as_o ever_o before_o due_a to_o it_o by_o the_o right_n of_o the_o apostolic_a see_v of_o st._n peter_n establish_v there_o ans._n you_o be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o when_o you_o have_v no_o better_a shift_n than_o so_o useless_a a_o criticism_n 1._o you_o know_v i_o suppose_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v have_v a_o signification_n as_o remote_a from_o doâ—…ation_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o your_o own_o common_a translation_n be_v tribuere_fw-la and_o i_o desire_v no_o more_o 2._o be_v here_o ever_o a_o word_n in_o the_o canon_n that_o say_v it_o be_v ever_o before_o due_a not_o a_o word_n 3._o be_v not_o the_o same_o word_n use_v of_o the_o give_v of_o equal_a privilege_n to_o constantinople_n as_o â—…is_n of_o give_v or_o defer_v it_o to_o rome_n the_o same_o word_n and_o do_v they_o mean_v that_o this_o belong_v ever_o to_o constantinople_n and_o that_o of_o divine_a right_n you_o dare_v not_o say_v so_o 4._o do_v they_o not_o say_v that_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n they_o judge_v that_o constantinople_n shall_v have_v equal_a privilege_n because_o it_o be_v the_o royal_a city_n and_o be_v this_o famous_a council_n of_o which_o you_o boast_v as_o obey_v leo_n epistle_n so_o sottish_a and_o absurd_a as_o to_o argue_v thus_o because_o old_a rome_n have_v the_o first_o seat_n assign_v to_o it_o on_o this_o account_n because_o it_o be_v the_o imperial_a seat_n and_o that_o be_v because_o it_o be_v ever_o before_o its_o due_a as_o st_n peter_n chair_n therefore_o we_o judge_v that_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n constantinople_n shall_v have_v equal_a privilege_n because_o it_o be_v now_o new_a rome_n the_o imperial_a seat_n though_o it_o be_v never_o due_a to_o it_o before_o as_o the_o seat_n of_o any_o apostle_n o_o what_o can_v some_o man_n believe_v or_o seem_v to_o believe_v and_o how_o much_o do_v it_o conern_v your_o church_n to_o be_v the_o expositor_n and_o judge_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o council_n as_o well_o as_o of_o god_n word_n he_o add_v that_o the_o canon_n say_v not_o that_o this_o be_v the_o sole_a reason_n ans._n 1_o but_o the_o canon_n say_v this_o be_v the_o reason_n and_o assign_v no_o other_o 2._o and_o if_o it_o make_v not_o it_o the_o great_a reason_n which_o the_o church_n be_v to_o take_v for_o the_o fundamentum_fw-la juris_fw-la they_o will_v never_o have_v lay_v the_o right_n of_o constantinople_n on_o the_o same_o foundation_n as_o by_o parity_n of_o reason_n the_o plain_a truth_n be_v but_o interest_n and_o partiality_n can_v endure_v plain_a truth_n he_o that_o will_v not_o be_v deceive_v by_o cite_a by-word_n of_o the_o ancient_n must_v distinguish_v between_o the_o titâ—…lus_n or_o fundamentum_fw-la juris_fw-la and_o the_o ratio_fw-la or_o motive_n of_o the_o statute_n or_o constitution_n the_o first_o be_v the_o law_n of_o emperor_n and_o council_n this_o only_o give_v the_o right_n the_o second_o be_v prevail_o and_o principal_o that_o which_o the_o canon_n here_o assign_v that_o rome_n be_v the_o great_a city_n and_o the_o imperial_a seat_n but_o as_o a_o honorary_a tittle_n add_v to_o the_o motive_n they_o say_v sometime_o that_o it_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o peter_n and_o sometime_o of_o peter_n and_o paul_n and_o sometime_o they_o mention_v paul_n alone_o and_o cry_v as_o at_o ephesus_n magno_fw-la paulâ—…_n cyrillo_n magne_n paulo_n celestino_n but_o note_v that_o they_o give_v often_o the_o same_o reason_n for_o the_o patriarchal_a honour_n of_o antioch_n that_o it_o be_v sedes_fw-la petri_n and_o therefore_o never_o take_v this_o to_o be_v either_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o right_n or_o the_o chief_a determine_a motive_n of_o the_o constitution_n he_o add_v that_o else_o it_o have_v be_v a_o contradiction_n when_o the_o father_n say_v that_o dioscorus_n have_v extend_v his_o felony_n against_o he_o to_o who_o our_o saviour_n have_v commit_v the_o charge_n and_o care_n of_o his_o vineyard_n that_o be_v of_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n ans._n 1._o no_o doubt_n but_o they_o acknowledge_v that_o christ_n commit_v the_o care_n of_o his_o vineyard_n to_o peter_n and_o every_o one_o of_o the_o apostle_n and_o to_o all_o bishop_n as_o their_o successor_n though_o not_o in_o apostleship_n and_o they_o acknowledge_v rome_n the_o primate_n in_o the_o empire_n and_o when_o dioscor_v we_o undertake_v to_o excommunicate_a leo_n they_o suppose_v that_o he_o transgress_v the_o law_n of_o the_o imperial_a church_n and_o therefore_o anatolius_n in_o the_o council_n when_o the_o indices_fw-la say_v that_o dioscor_n we_o condemn_v flavian_n for_o say_v christ_n have_v two_o nature_n answer_v that_o dioscorus_n be_v not_o condemn_v propter_fw-la fidem_fw-la but_o for_o excommunicate_v leo_n and_o for_o not_o appear_v when_o he_o be_v send_v for_o 2._o be_v here_o any_o word_n that_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v sovereign_a of_o all_o the_o earth_n do_v not_o the_o council_n in_o that_o very_a letter_n to_o leo_n say_v that_o the_o emperor_n have_v call_v the_o council_n not_o ascribe_v it_o to_o any_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o also_o that_o the_o say_n mat._n 28_o go_v teach_v all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n be_v deliver_v to_o they_o which_o be_v the_o care_n of_o the_o vineyard_n and_o not_o only_o to_o the_o pope_n quam_fw-la nobis_fw-la olim_fw-la ipse_fw-la salvator_fw-la tradidit_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la but_o say_v w._n i._n the_o true_a reason_n why_o this_o canon_n mention_v rather_o the_o imperial_a authority_n of_o that_o city_n than_o the_o right_n from_o st._n peter_n be_v because_o it_o suit_v better_a with_o the_o pretension_n of_o anatolius_n 1â—…_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n and_o his_o complice_n for_o the_o elevaton_n of_o that_o sea_n than_o any_o other_o for_o they_o have_v no_o other_o etc._n etc._n ans._n it_o be_v true_a but_o do_v anatolias_n and_o his_o complice_n that_o be_v the_o council_n speak_v sincere_o and_o true_o here_o or_o false_o if_o true_o that_o be_v all_o that_o i_o cite_v they_o for_o if_o false_o as_o worldly_a unconscionable_a man_n that_o be_v set_v up_o themselves_o why_o host_n we_o of_o general_a council_n even_o of_o this_o and_o of_o their_o word_n to_o leo_n how_o can_v we_o tell_v when_o to_o trust_v they_o and_o whether_o they_o that_o subscribe_v against_o flavian_n at_o ephes._n 2._o and_o after_o cry_v omnes_fw-la peccavimus_fw-la at_o chalcedon_n when_o they_o be_v under_o a_o martian_a and_o not_o theodosius_n will_v not_o have_v acquit_v dioscorus_n and_o condemn_v leo_n and_o elavian_n again_o if_o another_o theodosius_n have_v come_v but_o if_o they_o be_v credible_a believe_v they_o but_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o a_o law_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentine_n put_v both_o reason_n together_o etc._n etc._n ans._n i_o tell_v you_o in_o what_o sense_n even_o now_o even_o as_o they_o put_v the_o name_n of_o peter_n seat_n as_o a_o reason_n 1â—…_n of_o the_o honour_n of_o antioch_n a_o honorary_a motive_n to_o their_o law_n and_o he_o here_o confess_v himself_o that_o alexander_n and_o antioch_n have_v the_o second_o and_o three_o place_n because_o they_o be_v the_o second_o and_o three_o great_a city_n of_o the_o empire_n but_o he_o say_v that_o st._n peter_n think_v it_o convenient_a that_o the_o high_a spiritual_a authority_n shall_v be_v place_v in_o that_o city_n which_o have_v the_o high_a temporal_a power_n ans._n say_v you_o so_o 1._o where_o be_v that_o canon_n of_o st._n peter_n to_o be_v find_v and_o prove_v 2._o if_o so_o then_o why_o be_v not_o this_o canon_n produce_v for_o the_o regulate_v of_o all_o other_o church_n why_o do_v canterbury_n take_v place_n of_o london_n
the_o leprosy_n of_o some_o christian_n he_o must_v know_v whether_o all_o the_o church_n be_v not_o leprous_a then_o 2._o and_o whether_o man_n can_v with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n have_v communion_n with_o any_o answ._n 1._o he_o that_o say_v he_o have_v no_o sin_n be_v alyar_n say_v st._n john_n all_o christian_n and_o therefore_o all_o church_n be_v defile_v with_o sin_n 2._o all_o be_v not_o equal_o defile_v i_o have_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o papist_n be_v not_o the_o three_o part_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n there_o be_v none_o 3._o we_o must_v not_o separate_v from_o all_o church_n that_o have_v sin_n but_o we_o must_v not_o wilful_o sin_n for_o their_o communion_n and_o we_o must_v join_v local_o with_o the_o best_a we_o can_v and_o in_o spirit_n join_v with_o all_o as_o far_o as_o they_o join_v with_o christ_n be_v not_o this_o plain_a and_o sufficient_a to_o your_o cavil_v §_o 5._o he_o say_v p._n 423._o that_o our_o external_a profession_n in_o the_o particular_n of_o our_o belief_n or_o rather_o disbelief_n against_o the_o roman_a church_n show_v our_o general_a profession_n of_o christianity_n to_o be_v false_a as_o the_o arrian_n be_v answ._n what_o be_v easy_a than_o to_o say_v so_o but_o where_o be_v your_o proof_n §_o 6._o after_o a_o repetition_n of_o his_o talk_n against_o christ_n as_o no_o visible_a head_n he_o cavil_v at_o the_o form_n of_o my_o first_o argument_n which_o be_v this_o the_o body_n of_o christian_n on_o earth_n subject_v to_o christ_n their_o head_n have_v be_v in_o its_o part_n visible_a ever_o since_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n on_o earth_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christian_n on_o earth_n subject_v to_o christ_n their_o head_n be_v the_o church_n of_o which_o the_o protestant_n be_v member_n therefore_o the_o church_n of_o which_o the_o protestant_n be_v member_n have_v be_v visible_a ever_o since_o thâ—…_n day_n of_o christ_n on_o earth_n and_o first_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v out_o of_o form_n because_o it_o have_v never_o a_o universal_a proposition_n answ._n this_o be_v the_o man_n that_o will_v not_o dispute_v but_o in_o mere_a syllogism_n what_o need_v i_o a_o universal_a proposition_n if_o you_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o cephas_n be_v peter_n or_o peter_n be_v a_o apostle_n of_o the_o first_o place_n must_v you_o have_v a_o universal_a proposition_n what_o universal_a must_v there_o be_v above_o the_o body_n of_o christian_n etc._n etc._n 2._o he_o say_v that_o the_o word_n those_o form_n require_v shall_v have_v be_v all_o those_o when_o as_o there_o be_v never_o a_o those_o at_o all_o in_o the_o argument_n be_v not_o this_o a_o accurate_a reformer_n of_o syllogism_n that_o amend_v term_n that_o be_v not_o write_v and_o talk_v like_o a_o dreamer_n of_o he_o know_v not_o what_o but_o what_o be_v the_o all_n that_o the_o man_n will_v have_v have_v be_v it_o all_o those_o body_n of_o christian_n when_o we_o be_v all_o agree_v that_o christ_n have_v but_o one_o political_a body_n if_o i_o have_v be_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o world_n that_o protestant_n be_v part_n of_o have_v be_v visible_a since_o adam_n or_o that_o the_o god_n the_o protestant_n worship_n be_v almighty_a must_v i_o have_v say_v all_o those_o world_n and_o all_o those_o god_n nay_o have_v i_o say_v but_o whatsoever_o world_n or_o whatsoever_o god_n it_o have_v sound_v ill_o among_o man_n that_o be_v agree_v that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o sure_o a_o expository_n medium_n that_o be_v but_o notius_fw-la be_v enough_o next_o he_o say_v that_o i_o put_v more_o in_o the_o medium_n of_o the_o major_a than_o in_o the_o medium_n of_o the_o minor_a and_o so_o it_o have_v four_o term_n answ._n wonderful_a this_o be_v the_o man_n that_o dispute_v with_o our_o two_o great_a logician_n and_o public_a professor_n of_o cambridge_n bishop_n gunning_n and_o bishop_n peirson_n and_o as_o a_o triumpher_n print_v the_o dispute_n and_o challenge_v man_n in_o london_n to_o syllogistical_a combat_n and_o now_o see_v how_o he_o talk_v 1._o he_o call_v that_o my_o medium_n that_o be_v no_o medium_n at_o all_o but_o the_o predicate_a 2._o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o in_o my_o minor_n where_o that_o predicate_v be_v not_o nor_o aught_o to_o be_v but_o another_o 3._o he_o take_v a_o expository_n parenthesis_n which_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o proposition_n for_o a_o addition_n that_o make_v â—…our_n term_n when_o i_o prove_v the_o church_n visible_a to_o prevent_v his_o cavil_n i_o put_v in_o a_o parenthesis_n as_o a_o margin_n in_o its_o part_n because_o the_o whole_a world_n or_o church_n be_v not_o see_v by_o any_o mortal_a man_n no_o not_o by_o the_o pope_n that_o pretend_v to_o rule_v it_o all_o and_o this_o no_o man_n controvert_v if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o there_o be_v less_o in_o the_o conclusion_n than_o in_o the_o premise_n he_o have_v speak_v sense_n though_o impertinet_fw-la while_o there_o be_v as_o much_o as_o be_v in_o the_o question_n 2_o he_o say_v i_o make_v the_o predicate_a of_o the_o minor_a the_o subject_n of_o the_o conclusion_n and_o then_o say_v this_n be_v a_o hopeful_a beginning_n answ._n o_o rare_a triumphant_a disputer_n why_o shall_v i_o not_o make_v the_o predicate_a of_o the_o minor_a the_o subject_n of_o the_o conclusion_n what_o law_n or_o reason_n be_v against_o it_o when_o iâ—…_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o question_n my_o argument_n be_v a_o re_fw-mi definitâ_fw-la ad_fw-la rem_fw-la denominatam_fw-la as_o question_v the_o definition_n or_o res_fw-la quà _fw-la definita_fw-la be_v my_o medium_n how_o ridiculoâ—…s_n have_v this_o aristarchus_n make_v himself_o in_o his_o logic_n will_v not_o this_o dispute_v have_v be_v very_o edify_v to_o such_o as_o the_o lady_n that_o he_o and_o i_o be_v once_o to_o deal_v with_o when_o he_o will_v have_v bargain_v that_o never_o a_o word_n shall_v be_v speak_v by_o i_o nor_o write_v but_o in_o a_o syllogism_n as_o bad_a as_o popery_n be_v i_o hope_v it_o have_v some_o man_n of_o more_o ingenuity_n and_o honesty_n then_o wilful_o to_o delude_v the_o ignorant_a at_o these_o low_a and_o sordid_a rate_n §_o 7._o but_o from_o his_o play_n he_o turn_v in_o earnest_a to_o deny_v my_o major_n and_o say_v that_o protestant_n be_v no_o part_n of_o that_o church_n on_o earth_n of_o which_o christ_n be_v head_n and_o yet_o many_o of_o their_o doctor_n say_v that_o they_o that_o have_v no_o explicit_a belief_n that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n but_o believe_v only_o a_o god_n the_o rewarder_n of_o work_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o no_o christian_n be_v save_v papist_n just_o the_o donatist_n and_o worse_o than_o the_o quaker_n and_o anabaptist_n my_o argument_n those_o that_o profess_v the_o true_a christian_a religion_n in_o all_o its_o essential_o be_v member_n of_o that_o church_n which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christian_n on_o earth_n subject_v to_o christ_n the_o head_n but_o protestant_n profess_v etc._n etc._n here_o 1._o he_o want_v form_n also_o all_n be_v want_v as_o if_o a_o definition_n be_v not_o universal_a or_o equipollent_a but_o if_o all_n be_v in_o he_o deny_v it_o because_o they_o may_v destroy_v the_o faith_n by_o a_o error_n answ._n he_o that_o so_o err_v as_o to_o deny_v any_o one_o essential_a part_n do_v not_o true_o profess_v to_o hold_v that_o essential_a part_n and_o so_o not_o the_o essence_n as_o he_o that_o deny_v christ_n to_o be_v god_n or_o man_n and_o yet_o will_v say_v in_o general_n that_o he_o be_v the_o messiah_n his_o meaning_n be_v that_o one_o that_o be_v not_o god_n or_o not_o man_n be_v the_o messiah_n which_o be_v not_o a_o profession_n of_o all_o essential_a to_o christianity_n but_o if_o he_o true_o profess_v all_o that_o be_v essential_a and_o ignorant_o think_v some_o error_n consistent_a with_o those_o essential_o which_o by_o consequence_n cross_v some_o of_o they_o and_o will_v abhor_v that_o error_n if_o he_o know_v it_o inconsistent_a this_o man_n be_v still_o a_o christian_n or_o else_o it_o be_v doubt_n whether_o there_o be_v one_o in_o the_o world_n if_o those_o doctor_n say_v true_a that_o say_v that_o theology_n be_v so_o harmonious_a a_o frame_n that_o the_o least_o moral_a error_n do_v by_o consequence_n cross_a and_o subvert_v fundamental_a truth_n certain_o abundance_n of_o such_o do_v so_o as_o be_v collect_v by_o montaltus_n and_o mr._n clarkson_n out_o of_o your_o jesuit_n and_o school_v doctor_n and_o as_o you_o find_v in_o one_o another_o but_o he_o bid_v i_o prove_v my_o major_n mark_v reader_n what_o i_o be_o put_v to_o prove_v 1._o either_o that_o profession_n denominate_v a_o professor_n it_o be_v only_a christian_n as_o visible_a by_o profession_n in_o question_n 2._o or_o that_o all_o the_o essential_a part_n do_v