not a fit Subject for Baptism for Baptism represents a Death and Burial of the old Man and a rising to Life in the new Man which cannot be represented by an Infants being sprinckled but by a Beleevers being baptized So then for as much as Baptism is a visible demonstration of a Covenant made between God and the Soul wherein the Soul promises to put on Christ and walk in him and God promising to give him his holy Spirit to assist him in his so walking which shews That the person thus Covenanting in Baptism must be a Beleever And so I pass to the 10. and last Reason that at present I shall represent unto you to prove that Beleevers are the only fit Subjects of Baptism which is Reas 10. Because without Faith it is unprofitable for any to appear before God in any Gospel Ordinance for without Faith they cannot please him in their so appearing before him Heb. 11.6 For he that cometh so to God must beleeve that he is a rewarder of all them that diligently seek him Hence the three thousand beleeving and gladly received the Word were baptized The Samaritans beleeving also were baptized Simon beleeving was baptized Act. 8. and the Eunuch also with the Jaylors houshould And without Faith or profession of Faith at the least none were admitted to Baptism although that they were in the first Covenant being Abrahams seed to whom was the Promise yet they came not to Johns Baptism without confession of sins and being instructed in the Messiah which was to come as you may read Mat. 3. and Luk. 3. at larg and thus of old was the practise of the Ministers of the Gospel to prepare a Temple for the Lord of sanctified stones built up a spiritual house a peculiar people to offer spiritual sacrifice to God 1 Pet. 1.9 Which clearly proveth That if the building of God in Gospel-times be a building through the Spirit Eph. 2.19.12 then spiritual Beleeving Men and Women are the persons which ought to be the subjects baptized and being such fit matter and so fitly joyned together groweth to be a holy Temple for the Lord for as the stones that Solomons Temple was built of were hewn in Hieroms Country before they were brought to Jerusalem and compacted as a Temple for God figuratively to dwell in even so now must the stones of the spiritual building be hewed and fitted before they be laid in that building Hence our blessed Saviour commanded his Disciples to go preach the Gospel so as to make Disciples by instructing of them and then to baptize them and such as did gladly receive the word were baptized and so the Lord added to his Church daily such as should be saved And this was the way of God of old and is the way and will for ever be found to be the right way of Jesus Christ who is the same yesterday to day and for ever therefore be not carried away with the inventions of men but walk as you have had Christ and the Apostles for an example doing all things according to the Primitive patern in the worship of God and as many as walk according to that rule peace shall be unto them and mercy upon all the Israel of God And so I leave this Subject and come to handle the second Position which is Position 2. That Infants as such are not fit Subjects of Baptism IN the Discourse of which I shall Answer my Antagonist in his aleaged Texts of Scripture with several more Objections of that nature which is not aleaged in his Book and now briefly to the Reasons which sheweth That Infants are not fit Subjects for to be Baptized And so to the first Reason which is Reas 1. Because God hath no where in Scripture appointed Infants to be Baptized either by Precept or by the Example of the Apostles whole steps we are to follow and therefore it 's an unlawful practise for whosoever adds to the Word of the Lord God will add the Plagues which are written And the Prophet that shall presume to speak a word in the Name of the Lord which he hath not commanded the same Prophet must die Deut. 18.20 Revel 22.18 Therefore add thou not unto his word lest he reprove thee and thou be found a lyar Prov. 30.6 But as for Gods wayes as in the time of the Law it was very plain and perfect as witness that Ordinance of Circumcision there was the manner of Circumcision and the Person which was to be Circumcised plainly discovered as the foreskin of the flesh and the Children of Abraham and the time when even at eight dayes old nay his Servants and Slaves were to be Circumcised and in a word no uncircumcised person must abide in that Land nor be accounted of Abrahams Family which sheweth That in a spiritual sense none can be accounted Abrahams seed but such as are Circumcised in heart viz. those that have the vayl of Ignorance and Unbelief taken away from off their hearts which causeth the Apostle to say That Abraham beleeved God and it was accounted unto him for Righteousness Know ye therefore saith he that they which are of Faith the same are the Children of Abraham So then Infants not having the vail of Ignorance and Unbelief taken from off their hearts cannot be accounted of Abrahams Family for he received Circumcision as a Seal of the righteousness of that Faith which he received before Circumcision that he might be the Father of all them which do beleeve Gal. 3.7 Rom. 4.11 So then Circumcision was a Seal of the Father-hood of the Faithful unto Abraham therefore the Faithful only are Abrahams seed which cannot be Infants because they have not Faith and that they have not Faith is clear because the Apostle saith That there is but one Faith and that one Faith is wrought in the Soul by Hearing the Word Preached the which Infants are not capable of as will be granted by all men as I think One word or two more about Abrahams Circumcision and so pass to the next Reason which is Abraham received it as a seal of the righteousness of Faith but none of his seed did receive it as a seal neither could do because they could not have the Father-hood of the Faithful sealed up unto them it was only Abrahams prerogative neither was it ever called a seal to any of Abrahams seed and much more I might say But I pass briefly to the second Reason to prove Children not fit subjects to be Baptized which is Reas 2. Because all that are Baptized may and ought to receive the Lords Supper unless they be scandalous in their Conversation after Baptism and that hinder them but Children may not receive the Lords Supper Ergo Reas 3. Thirdly Because Children are not in Gospel-Covenant because all that are in Gospel-Covenant need not to be taught to know the Lord for they all know him from the greatest to the least but children of seven or eight dayes old knows not the Lord
doctrine by the slights of men cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive From this text we may learn that it was the wisdome of Christ in order to accomplish his last will and testament that he did give gifts to men that they might be enabled in their successive generations to preach exhort reprove and correct to the end that the man of God or servants of God namely the Church of God might be furnished with every good work that henceforth that is from that time forward they might not be tossed that is removed from that doctrine which Christ left in command in his last will and testament Ephes 4.10 11 12 13 14. 1 Tim. 3.14 15 16. The consequence is that what Christ appointed in his last will and testament was perpetuated and to remain from that time and forward until all the Saints came to the unity of the faith and that perfect man even to the stature and fulness of Christ and so I pass to the third ground and reason Reas 3. It further appears that whatsoever Christ appointed to be practised in his last Will and Testament is perpetuated and to remain because it was before declared by God to Moses and good reason there was that the Laws and Statutes of Christ should be perpetuated and remain as well as Moses Law which did remain untill a more glorious administration for when Moses was dead yet his Law spake which shewed him to be a Law-giver of some authority but if it were as some would have it Christs Law must needs be so weak as to die with him or a non after him or at least some of them and so in effect say that Christ is a more weaker or an imperfecter law-giver than Moses but that it was foretold by God and given in charge that all Christs Laws and Statutes should remain in all Generations for all men to practise according to their several abilities or measures read Peters words Acts 3.22 23. which saith For Moses truly said unto the fathers A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up to you of your brethren like unto me him shall you hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you And it shall come to passe that every Soul that will not heare that Prophet shall be destroyed from among the people That which is to be observed from this text is first that Christ must be heard in every thing whatsoever he saith and secondly as he must be heard in every thing in whatsoever he saith even so he must be heard in every thing by every soul and thirdly that it is so is clear because whosoever doth not heare viz. obey shall be destroyed so then its plain that all the Statutes and Ordinances of the last will and Testament of the Lord Jesus Christ ought to be believed and practised by all those that are the Lords people in all ages and so I pass to the fourth ground and reason to prove the continuation of all the Statutes and Laws of Kings Jesus Reas 4. Because there must be no adding nor deminishing from his words no putting to nor taking from them for it is a very great evil to put in or take out of it if it be but a mans will and Testament as saith Saint Paul Gal. 3.15 in these words Brethren I speak after the manner of men though it be but a mans Covenant or Testament yet if it be confirmed no man disanulleth or addeth there unto For as saith the Lord Rev. 22.18 I testifie to every one that heareth the words of the Prophesie of this booke if any man shall adde unto these things God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this booke And if any man shall take away from the words of this booke God shall take away his part out of the booke of life and the holy City and from the things that are written in this booke For as he is an unalterable Priest and hath an unchangeable Preist-hood even so he is an unalterable King and Prophet and hath unalterable or unchangeable Lawes Ordinances and Statutes and happy are all those that observe and keep them unto the end And to this end the Apostle Paul who was faithful to Christ who did not hide or shun to declare the whole counsel of God did direct the successive Ministers as Timothy and Titus what to do after him both in respect of Doctrine and discipline and sheweth them how they should behave themselves in the Church of Christ and also to commit it to faithful men that might teach others after them and what quallifications ought to be found in Bishops and Deacons namely Pastors and such as were to take care of the poor so that it is very evident that it was the care of the Apostle to leave in charge an orderly provision for both souls and bodies of the Churches of Christ as Pastors or Bishops to take care of their souls and Deacons to take care of their bodies and the externall way of establishing them or appointing them to the work was by fasting and prayer with laying on of Hands as he himself and the rest of the Ministry were established as Acts 13.3 and 1 Tim. 4.14 Chap. 5.22 Tit. 1.5 6 7 8. more there might be added but at present I shall only add a few sentences of Scriptures but not any of them texts last cited but others as first the charge that Paul giveth to the Pastors or Elders of the Church of Ephesus at his departure Acts 20.28 in these words Take heed unto your selves and unto all the flock over which the holy Ghost hath made you overseers to feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his own blood For I know this that after my departure shall grievous wolves enter in among you not sparing the flock Wherefore saith he to Timothy 2 Tim. 4.1 in these words I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ who shall judge the quicke and the dead at his appearance and Kingdome Preach the word instant in season and out of season reprove rebuke exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine Watch thou in all things indure affliction do the work of an Evangelist make a full proof of thy Ministry for their are many unruly and vain talkers wherefore rebuke them sharply that they may be found in the faith but a man that is an Hereticke after the first and second admonition reject And the things that thou hast heard and seen in me the same commit to faithful men who also may teach others Tit. 1.10 Chap. 3.10 2 Tim. 2.2 So then those Laws that Christ appointed his Disciples to walk in they must teach there successors to walk in and their successors must commit it to others that they might teach the Generation to come to that end that Christs Laws Statutes Ordinances might be as unchangeable as his Preist-hood and so the words of the author to the Hebrews may be verified Heb.
you may see that the Sepulcher which you speak of was not wood but earth and so Christ was buried and covered in the heart of the earth So then Persons baptized must be covered in water or otherwise no signification of burial in Baptism And so I pass to the fourth Reason to prove baptism to be dipping or plunging into the water Reas 4. Because Baptism is figuratively represented by much water and not by a little which implyeth the person baptized ought to be dipped or plunged so as to be covered in water as the waters of Noah And John abiding in Canaan Baptizing because there was much water saith the Text to which you adde these two Objections Object 1. First That if the waters of Noah was baptism then the ungodly World was Baptized for plunged and covered they were and perished and so the perishing Creatures were Baptized Answ To which I Answer and say The text doth not say that Noahs water was Baptism but a figure of Baptism Secondly It is not denyed that the same water that is said to save the eight Souls which were in the Ark was the same that drowned them which was out of the Ark which sheweth that the water in Baptism must not be small for that is said to be a figure of Baptism but sufficient to cover the Persons baptized That which we may learn from these sayings is this and so I pass That as the waters saved those in the Ark and drowned them that were out of the Ark even so Baptism being figuratively represented in it saveth and cleaneth instrumentally all those that have Faith and so be in Christ the Ark of safety and also destroyeth all that attempt it which beleeve not or are not in Christ by Faith and so the Ordinances of Christ to one are the savour of life unto life and to the other the savour of death unto death therefore take this word of Caution Take heel how and to whom you administer Baptism let them first appear to you that they are in the Ark which is to say let the persons Baptized first make it appear to you by some visible demonstration that they have Faith in Christ otherwise you see that you take a direct way to ruinate them therefore I say take heed And so I pass to the next thing which is Object John did abide at Canaan to baptize because there was much water there But say you The much water is not to be understood deep water but broad and shallow so that an Infant could not be covered in it and that John did abide there because his Disciples might see him administer that Ordinance better than under the shadowing Banks of Jordan And this is the Reason saith my Antagonist That John did abide at Canaan not that the waters were convenient that is to say deep to cover the Person baptized but because there was a convenient prospect whereby his Disciples might see the manner of this administring of the Ordinance Answ To which I Answer and say That this kind of reasoning seems to me to be strange perverting of the Scripture for the Scripture saith That John abode at Canaan to baptize because there was much water or it may be read abundance of water or deep water from the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But you say That the reason why he tarried there to baptize was because there was a convenient prospect that his Disciples might see him baptize clear contrary to what the Scripture saith And if that were the Reason as you say then he might have taken a Pitcher of Water into the Mountain if sprinkling would have served the turn for a Pitcher of water would have baptized very many with your kind of Baptism and the Mountain had been a better prospect than the Valley Secondly Canaan is the same water viz. the River Jordan and takes its Name Canaan from the Name of the Village Canaan that stood by the River of Jordan as you may see if you look into the Map of that Country And so it is now that one and the same River bears many Names by reason of the adjacent Villages and Towns that stand by the side of it and the River called by the same Name This being considered the River or Water of Canaan was not shallow but deep for the swelling Waves of Jordan were great and this is the same River as before-said Again Thirdly it is clear that John Baptized Men and Women there which should be read if it were truly translated that John dipped Men and Women there and if so you and your Authors must be false which say it was not deep enough to dip an Infant and so I leave this Objection and the Reasons to prove Baptism to be Dipping although I might adde many more The Reasons in short you see are these First Because the word Baptism being truly translated is to dip properly and such like words as before-mentioned Secondly Because Christ was dipped or plunged and we engaged to follow his example Thirdly Baptism signifies Christs Burial and he was covered in the heart of the earth Fourthly and Lastly the Scripture saith That John did tarry and Baptize at Canaan because there was much water signifying to us that much water is requisite in Baptism whereby the person baptized may be conveniently dipped or plunged so as to be covered in the water And so I come to the Second Thing which is The Discourse of the Subject which is to be Baptized whether Beleeving Men and Women or Infants To which I say The Scripture will resolve the Doubt if we well examine them who are the Subjects to be Baptized and therefore I shall at present lay down these Two Positions and give you Scripture Reasons to prove them Position 1. The First is That those that are the Disciples of Christ viz. Beleeving Men and Women may and ought to be Baptized Position 2. And Secondly That Infants as such may not be Baptized And first to the First to prove that such as are Disciples namely Beleevers may and ought to be Baptized And the first Reason is Reason 1. Because the great Law-giver Christ Jesus hath taught us in his last Will and Testament to make Disciples and Baptize them that are so made as in Matth. 28.18 19. Go teach all Nations and baptize them or as the Original rendereth it from these words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Go Disciplize or make Disciples in all Nations and baptize THEM c. From whence we may cleerly see that it was the Mind and Will of Christ that they only should be Baptized that were first taught and made Disciples and that Infants are not here in the least included is plain because they are not capable to be taught but those that were commanded there to be baptized were capable of being taught therefore could not be Infants Secondly Infants are not capable to bear the name Disciple because Christ saith in Luke 14.26 27. That whosoever denieth not himself and
takes up his Cross and followeth him cannot be his Disciple So then Infants being not capable so to do cannot be Christs Disciples but such as are to be baptized must first be taught and made Disciples and then baptized as is to be understood in the word baptize THEM that is such as before have been taught and made Disciples from whence you may see that Disciples viz. beleeving Men and Women may and ought to be baptized it being the last Will and Testament of the great Law-giver who also saith That he that beleeveth and is baptized shall be saved Mark 16.15 16. And so I come to the Second Reason which is Reas 2. Because Disciples viz. Beleevers were the Subjects that Christ and the Apostles baptized and we are to follow their steps and now to prove that Christ and the Apostles did baptize such read John 4.1 When the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus MADE and baptized more Disciples than John though Jesus baptized not but his Disciples from whence we may see that Jesus MADE Disciples before he did baptize them and also we see it was the Apostles and Disciples practise so to do as Acts. 8.12 it s said That when the Samaritans did beleeve they were baptized Men and Women but no mention at all of Children so then Beleevers are the subjects who are to be baptized Reas 3. Thirdly Beleevers are the subjects because none are accounted as Members in the New Covenant so as to have right to Gospel administrations but such as know the Lord viz. beleeve in his Name for so saith the Scripture Heb. 8. For this is the Covenant that I make After those dayes saith the Lord they shall not teach every one his neighbor and every man his brother saying Know the Lord for they shall know me from the least even to the greatest From whence we see that the least Member in the Gospel-Covenant must know the Lord but Children of seven or eight dayes old know him not and therefore have not right to Gospel-administrations only beleevers that know God for they shall all know him from the least to the greatest as saith the text And so I pass to the Fourth Reason which is Reas 4. Because those that have right to be Baptized may and ought to eat the Lords Supper the which is not meet for Children to do for it is a Feast that Beleevers only have a right to partake of but all baptized ones even such as have right to the New Covenant have right to the Supper and all other Covenant Priviledges for so saith the Scripture Acts 2.41 42. Then they that gladly received the Word were baptized and the same day was added to the Church about three thousand Souls and they continued stedfast in the Apostles Doctrine and Fellowship and in breaking of Bread and Prayer From whence we see that no more were baptized but those that gladly received the Word and they that were baptized continued in the Apostles Doctrine in Fellowship and in breaking of Bread viz. the Lords Supper and Prayer therefore beleeving Men and Women and not Children are the right subjects of Baptism and ought to be baptized they having a Command enjoyning them thereunto And so I pass to the Fifth Reason to prove that Disciples viz. beleeving Men and Woman are the only fit subjects of Baptism which is Reas 5. Because Christ was baptized when he came to be of years of discretion being about thirty years old as you may read Luk. 3. and Christ was given to be a leader to his People Isa 55.4 Now if Christ were not baptized before he came to be of years of discretion and he given to lead us an example then we ought not also to be baptized till we be of years of discretion and so follow his steps The former of these is true and the Consequence cannot in truth be denied And so I pass to the Sixth Reason to prove beleevers the only subjects of Baptism Reas 6. Because Repentance and Confession of sin is required of Persons before Baptism be administred unto them for such was the Baptism of John when he was to prepare a People for the Lord although the People which he baptized were the seed of Abraham and so in the Old Covenant yet they came to John and confessed their sins and were baptized and it was called the Baptism of Repentance and when they would have been baptized upon the account of being Abrahams seed and Children of the Covenant John did reprove them saying O generation of Vipers who hath forewarned you to flee from the Wrath to come Bring forth fruit worthy of amendment of life and do not begin to say ye have Abraham to your Father for God is able of these stones to raise up Children unto Abraham and now is the Ax laid to the root of the Trees and every Tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewen down c. Peruse this diligently and you may see that there was no admission unto Baptism without Repentance and it is the very same Doctrine that Peter taught Acts 2.38 Repent and be baptized every one of you for remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the holy Spirit Hence you see there was Repentance required of ever one that is Baptized and this is acknowledged by the Old Catechism and Book of Common Prayers and hence it came to pass that the old God-fathers and God-mothers as we were wont to call them did confess our sins for us it being a wicked deceiving invention of Pope Ignatius whereby thousands of poor souls were deceived the Pope invented it and the Priest readily received it and it being a custome the people loved to have it so the Priest was to ask the child Whether it would forsake the Devil and all his works and the God-father or Surety was to Answer in the behalf of the Child as though the Priest were a Juglor and had jugled the mans voice into the Child saying This is our or my desire and then ask if it would be Baptized And the Answer was returned again as it were in the person of the Child that it was its desire when it was far from desiring any such thing and so far were the Sureties themselves from forsaking the Devil and all his works and from being Beleevers that some were Drunkards some Swearers and some Whore-mongers and yet did dare by the means of the Pope his Clergy to tell God who is the searcher of all hearts that they did beleeve and forsake the Devil and all his works and yet were led captive by him at his Will Consider O ye blind Priests how you deceived the people and made them beleeve they did well and worshipt God when they told lyes in the face of the Congregation and so did worship the Devil Did you ever read of such a practise in the Primitive time No surely Gods Soul abhors you But courteous Reader hence thou mayest see that the
9.5 And if the faculties of man be understood to be the Soul then it is easie to prove them Temperatures and Mortal because they are subject to increase and diminish as the Creator is disposed and madness that may happen to man by some obstruction in the body quite mollifieth them so then these things considered we may see that the whole man is mortal time would fail me to write the particular things appertaining to this subject of Discourse and therefore I shall pass to the answer of some few Objections which may comprehend the whole but by the way give me leave to shew you a glimpse of what the Scripture calls the Soul in which you may see how many things bear the name of Soul in Scripture and first it is taken for God Heb. 10.28 it is taken for the heart 1 Sam. 18.1 for the eyes Jer. 13.17 for the head Psalm 16.10 for the stomack Prov. 27.7 for hunger Prov. 6.30 for the whole man Lev. 7.20 Acts 7.14 Rom. 13.1 These and many more in Scripture is called by the name of Soul but I come now to the Objections which is Object 1. Fear not him that can kill the body but cannot kill the Soul Mat. 10.28 implying that there is a soul which cannot be killed Answ This is the most material Text that I know of to that purpose but Luke which is the most exact Writer hath recorded it thus Luke 12.4 5. And I say unto you my friends be not afraid of them that can kill the body and afterwards have no more that they can do but fear him which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell yea I say unto you fear him which sheweth to us man can only destroy the body which is mortal and must dye but God can destroy both the body which is mortal and also cast the whole man into hell when it is immortal after the Resurrection and so he above all is to be feared and that this in short is the meaning of the words is evident because the soul hath been killed by man Josh 10.35 but after the Resurrection none can destroy it but God and so I pass to the next Objection which is Object 2. In Phil. 1.23 24. For I am in a strait betwixt two having a desire to depart and be with Christ which is far better Answ To which I answer and say That this text doth not contradict the state of Mans Mortality because there is no time to the dead that is to say that the time between Adams death and his Resurrection will be to him but as the twinkling of an eye so that as there was no time to us from the creation to our birth so when we shall return to dust from whence we were taken and become like water spilt upon the ground there will be no time also to us till the time of the resurrection for there is no remembrance amongst the dead as saith the Scripture so then Paul might say that he did desire to be dissolved and to be with Christ for the next thing to Death is the Resurrection and glory for the godly which time to them is as before said but as the twinkling of an eye Add this that Paul tells us that from the time of Death till the time of the Resurrection the crown is laid up to be received at that day mark that read the text 2 Tim. 4.6 7 8. in these words For I am now ready to be offered up and the time of my departure is at hand I have fought a good fight I have finished my course I have kept the faith hence-forth there is laid up for me a crown of Righteousness which God the righteous Judge will give unto Me at that day not to me only but unto them also that love his appearance From whence we may learn that the godly mans glory is to be conferred upon him at the time of Christs appearance and not at the time of death only at the time of death it is laid up sure for those that have dyed in the faith VNTIL THAT DAY namely Christs appearance which time to the dead will be no more then a moment and so being dissolved we shall be with Christ which is far better and so I shall pass to the next Objection which is Object 3. There is such a thing as a soul that goeth to heaven at death because the Apostle saith 2 Cor. 5. We know that if our earthly house of this Tabernacle shall be dissolved we have a building of God an house not made with hands eternal in the heavens ver 6. Therefore we are alwayes confident knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. Answ To which I answer and say That the Apostle in this place doth not so much as hint at such a thing as the soul being immortal or distinct from the body but speaks of the happy estate and condition of the godly at that time when mortality shall be swallowed up of life as you may see verse the 4. in these words For we that are in this Tabernacle do groan being burdened not that we would be uncloathed but cloathed upon that mortality might be swallowed up of life From whence we may see that the Apostle speaks in this place of mortality being swallowed up of life meaning by the state of a resurrection as appears from the 9 and 10 verses where he saith That it was their care to labour that whether absent from the Lord or present they might be accepted of him for saith he we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ c. implying that our being present with the Lord is not to be till the day of Judgment which day of Judgment will not be until after the Resurrection so that Paul in this place Equivolent with David makes no distance of time between the putting off this body and the putting on immortality viz the Resurrection which sheweth that there is no time to the dead so that this text speaks not against man being wholly mortal And so I pass to the next Objection which is Object 4. In Luke 12.20 in these words Thou fool this night thy soul shall be required of thee And Luke 23.43 I say unto thee to day shalt thou be with me in Paradice And Luke 16.22 23. And it came to pass that the beggar dyed and was carried by the Angels into Abrahams bosome and the rich man dyed also and was buryed and in hell he lift up his eyes being in torments seeth Abraham a far off and Lazarus in his bosome c. Which sheweth there is an immortal soul Answ To which I answer and first to the first and so in order which is Luke 12.20 Thou fool this night shall thy soul be required of thee I answer to this take notice and remember that I have before shewed that the word Soul may be as well read life or breath from the word 〈◊〉
the Greek Phrases 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and to this agreeth the saying of our blessed Saviour written by Saint John 3.16 17. in these words God so loved the WORLD mark the word WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth on him should not perish but have everlasting life for God sent not his Son into the WORLD to condemn the WORLD but that the WORLD thorrow him might be saved To which add that which is written 1 John 2.1 2 3. in these words My little children these things I write unto you that ye sin not but if any man sin we have an Advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous and he is the propitiation of our sins and not for ours only but also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD From these Scriptures with many more that might be added it doth evidently appear that Jesus Christ did die for every man and yet further to confirm this truth I shall prove it by sircumlocution or plain reasons drawn from the Scripture and the first is Reas 1. First Because God hath sworn by himself because he could swear by no greater that he desireth not the death of such as die or of the wicked but tels them that their destruction is of themselves as Ezek. 33.11 in these words Say unto them as I live saith the LORD GOD I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked but that he would turn from his wicked wayes and live turn ye turn ye from your evil wayes for why will ye die O house of Israel And wo be to thee Jerusalem wilt thou not be made clean when shall it once be Thy destruction is of thy self thy wickedness hath procured it Jer. 13.22 27. From whence we may see that God is so far from decreeing any mans damnation simply of his own will unless in reference to their rejecting of grace tendered that he hath entred into an oath before the sons of men not to desire their ruin unless they resist his spirit in the tenders of grace which sheweth that he gave his Son to die for such as perish for without blood there is no remission of sins so then there cannot be a tender of the Gospel which is remission of sins to such for whom Christ dyed not but more of that anon I pass at present to the second Reason to prove that God gave Christ to die for all men to bring them to a Resurrection and glory as before said which is Reas 2. Secondly Because as God hath sworn not to take pleasure in the death of them that die so he hath also said that it is good and acceptable in his sight and well pleasing to him to have all men have Salvation and to that end Christ dyed as you may read 1 Tim. 2.1 2 3 4 5 6. in these words I exhort therefore first of all Supplications Prayers intercessions and giving of thanks be made for ALL MEN for Kings and for all that are in authority that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty for this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour who would have ALL MEN to be saved and come to the knowledg of the truth For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransome for ALL to be testified in due time From whence we may see that first as God hath sworn by himself that he desireth not the death of the wicked Secondly that he also saith he would have all men saved and that they might be saved he saith that he gave Christ to be a ransome for all men so that from these two reasons you may see Gods love to all men extended and I pass to the third Reason which is Reas 3. Thirdly Because God hath commanded the Gospel to be declared to all men and condemneth such as believe it not and the Gospel is to be understood good news viz. remission of sins and salvation by Christs blood and commandeth men to believe it upon pain of eternal wrath But if Christ did not die for every man to whom the Gospel is commanded to be preached then a lye is commanded to be preached to the greatest part of men and they damned because they believe and receive it not the which to say were ridiculous and blasphemy But that you may see that this is true consider well that if there be a Command given to Christs Ministers to preach the Gospel to every man that is to say in plain english that Christ dyed for their sins and rose again for their Justification and yet Christ did not die for every man then this is to command a lye to be preached to the greatest part of men and they damned for not believing of it if Christ only dyed for a few as some say the which so to say is wickedness and then also those that are damned for not believing the Gospel are damned for not believing a lye and how wicked such an opinion is I shall leave all to Judge who know any thing of God And that you may see that the Gospel is to be preached to every creature and men to believe it upon penalty of condemnation read Mark 16.15 16. in these words And he said unto them go ye into ALL THE WORLD mark that and preach the Gospel to EVERY CREATVRE mark that he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved but he that believeth not shall be damned From whence we may see that the Gospel namely the good news of Salvation thorow Christs blood is to be preached to every man and whosoever doth not believe it namely that there is life and remission of sins for them thorow Christs blood are to be damned because they make God a lyar John 3. Chap. 8. 1 John 5.10 These well considered sheweth that God did give his Son the Lord Jesus to die for every man as before said and so I pass to the fourth Reason which is Reas 4. Fourthly Because it is very plain that so many as were made sinners by the first Adam so many were made righteous by the second Adam and it is evident that all were made sinners by the first Adam Ergo all are made righteous also by the second Adam for there is all set in oposition to all that is to say so many all as was made sinners by Adam so many all was made righteous by Christ and if so then it doth follow undenyably that God gave Christ to die for every man and that the premises are true read the words of Saint Paul Rom. 5.18 19. which saith Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation even so by the righteousness the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life for as by one mans disobedience many were made sinners so by the obedience of one many be made righteous From these words we may see All set in
namely of receiving in or casting out although one Star fell from Heaven to Earth Revel 9. yet he carryed not away the heavenly keyes or power no more than the evil Angels when they fell could carry away the heavenly power and authority of the good Angels no they were so far from carrying away the power that the good Angels had that the power that the evil Angels had was taken away and given to the good Angels as the one Talent was taken and given to him that had ten so to him that hath shall be given and to him that hath not shall be taken away that which he hath so then the conclusion is that if one Star did fall it s nothing in comparison of many Stars which did not fall and that fallen Star did not carry away the keyes of the Kingdome of Heaven namely the heavenly power but God took it away from him and the Devil gave him the keyes of drakness so it was not the keys of the Kingdome for they still remained with them that abode in the truth as hath been already proved and by your self in effect hath been granted and thus I pass to the next thing considerable which is The four Winds Revel 7.1 with its interpretation by Mr. Henden But by the way I take notice of what is said in the beginning of his 4. page from Zech. 4. which speaks concerning their building of Jerusalem and the Temple after the seventy years of captivity in Babylon the which he applies to be a Gospel Church and the Pipes there spoken of to be understood Ordinances and from the seven Pipes spoken of vers 2. is to be understood the practising of the full number of Ordinances in the Primitive time and the two Golden Pipes in vers 12. Is to be understood the least of numbers and that least of numbers relates to the time of the Churches being in Babylon that then the lesser number of Ordinances were practicable and to be practised This is the sum in short that I gather from that his discourse To which I answer briefly and first that the 4 Chapter of Zech. is a Prophesie of a Gospel Church I cannot as yet see nor believe it is clear that it was a prophesie of the redifying of Jerusalem and the Candelstick the Lamps and Pipes belonging to it is the same vessels that God appointed in the Temple as you may read Exod. 25. Lev. 24.4 Numb 4.9 the oyle vessels ministering unto it is to be understood the Pipes Chap. 8.2 2 Kings 4.10 1 Chron. 28.15 from these and many more Scriptures that might be added we may see that the Candlestick with the Lamps and Pipes viz. the ministering vessels unto the Lamps and Candelstick was the same that God shewed unto Moses in the pattern and appointed it to remain in the Temple and after that pattern it was made in Solomons time and the very same was to be after the seventy years of captivity and it is far more evident because if we observe the Prophesie of Haggai who speaks of one and the same thing he will tell us that Zerubbabel and Joshua according to Zechariahs words that he should lay the foundation and also finish it Hag. 1.14 Zech. 4.9 and that this prophesie relates to Jerusalem read Haggai and Zechariah at large I do not say that it relates only to the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the Temple at the end of the seventy years captivity but in it is a Prophesie of the redifying of the City and Temple destroyed since by Titus Vespatian which is yet to be built again according to the Word of the Lord Rev. 11. but more of that anon but in a short sentence I further add this as a reason to prove that the Prophesie of Zechariah Chap. 4. most primely relates to the redifying of Jerusalem at their coming out of the seventy years of captivity because that both Haggai and Zechariah have the Word of the Lord coming to them both at that time as to Haggai the Word of the Lord came to him in the sixth seventh month in the second year of Darius Chap. 1.1 Chap. 2.1 and to Zechariah it came in the eighth month in the same year Zech. 1.1 and the work of both Prophets was to stir up the People to the work of building of the House of God for they being hindred by subtilty in the dayes of Cyrus because that Zerubbabel and Joshua and the rest of the chief of the Fathers would not let the people of the Land build with them as you may see at large in Ezra 4.1 2 3 4 5 6. that they at last out of custome grew careless and was content to live in their sealed houses and let the house of God lye waste Hag. 1.2 and hence the Word of the Lord stirred them up by the two fore mentioned Prophets namely Haggai and Zechariah that they might go on to finish the Work for Zerubbabel had begun it before and laid the Foundation in the daies of Cyrus and being stopped as before said he was to finish it in the daies of Darius which agreeth with the words of Zechariah Chap. 4.9 in these words The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house his hands also shall finish it compare Haggai with the four first Chapters of Zechariah and compare them both with Ezra 3.8.9 10. Chap. 4.1 2 3 4 5 6. and you may clearly see that what I have said is undeniably true and that is the thing that Zechariah speaks of in Chap. 4. which Mr. Henden would have to be a Gospel Church it 's clear that men may be carried away very strangely in the judgments and understandings if that they be guided by their own spirits or immaginations without searching the Scriptures and well comparing them together so as they may hold a correspondency together I am not willing to be nice in observing obsurdities the which if I were and had time I could observe many but at present I shall leave this thing saying that if the Pipes signifie the Ordinances of the Gospel and that they were lost from seven to two so that there is now but two Ordinances practicable and it 's a question to some whether Mr. Henden practise above one of them two what Ordinances they be which remain but you say that the two signifie the least of numbers and so I think that two is the least of numbers but that I may take you in the best sense I understand you mean that the Ordinances was devided in two numbers and the biggest number was to cease in Babylon as you call it and the lesser number to be perpetuated and remain the which if so cast up your account again and you will find upon your own account that the greater number is perpetuated and to remain as 1. Ministry 2. Prayer 3. Praises 4. Baptisme 5. the Lords Supper 6. the Sealed elect number 7. the Spiritual union 8. the beginning and profession of faith
from the Prophets to witness it but further you may see that there will be a Temple although not the union of the sealed number as Mr. Henden supposed which hath been already answered but a material Temple as saith St. Paul 2 Thes 2.4 He viz. the man of Sin or Antichrist shall sit in the Temple of God shewing himself that he is God But if the Temple be to be understood to discypher the Mistical union of the one hundred forty and four thousand as Mr. Henden saith then it is impossible that the Man of Sin should sit there for they are not to be hurt and that connot be said to be the Temple of God in a spiritual sense which is the seat of the Man of Sin but in a material Temple it hath been so already and will be so again for saith Christ It is written my House should be a House of Prayer but ye have made it a den of thiefs And secondly that there is to be a Temple is also proved from Revel 15.8 in these words And the Temple was filled with smoak from the glory of God from his power and no MAN was able to enter into the TEMPLE till the seven plagues of the seven Angels were fulfilled From hence we see that there shall be a material Temple which shall be so filled with Gods glory that no MAN shall enter into it until the plagues of the seven Vials be executed and so Christ by the brightness of his coming and excellent glory shall dispossess the Man of Sin of his seat and that the glory of God did shine so of old in his Temple read the words of the Prophet Isa 6 4. Ezek. 10.4 And secondly that the glory of the Lord is to appear or fill his House or material Temple Again read Ezek. 43.5 6 7. in these words So the Spirit took me up and brought me into the inner Court and behold the glory of the Lord filled the House and I heard him speaking unto me out of the House and the man stood by me and he said unto me Son of man the place of my Throne and the place of the sole of my feet where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for EVER and my holy Name shall the House of Israel no more defile Agreeable to Chap. 37.21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28. as you may read at large I could give many reasons more to prove a material Temple and elsewhere I have done it But if it should be objected That God doth not dwell in Temples made with hands I answer and say it is very true that the Temple of Jerusalem they had defiled with their abominations and therefore the Lord destroyed it and for a while took unto himself the instruments of a foolish Shepheard Zech. 11.15 and so was a Gin and a Snare to the House of Israel and so the litteral Zion was to be plowed like a field and Jerusalem to become a heap but it doth nor say that Christ will never dwell in Temples or a Temple made with hands nor that he will never dwell in Mount-Zion litteral in Jerusalem but contrariwise saith in many places that he will come unto his Temple and dwell in Mount-Zion in Jerusalem as I before have proved read the place of Christs Kingly seat in the time of his Reign in my Treatise to Mr. Holland annexed to this I could prove that the Lord will have his seat there at large and that when his Tabernacle shall be with men and his seat where his Father Davids was that then it is to be in material Jerusalem when the Law shall go forth of Zion and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem and this was the City and Altar and Temple which was to be measured and the Worshipers which was therein namely the Jews which were to return and at that time shall be returned unto their own Land where they shall worship God according to Moses Law waiting for their Messiah Thirdly what is to be understood by the outward Court not measured or cast out or left out as in reference to measurement it is that after the Israelites be returned before they have finished their outward Courts and walls and the like for their great care and first work shall be upon the chief and principal place viz. their City and Temple the Gentiles namely Gogg the Prince of Meshech and Tubal whose Army shall be of them of Persia Ethiopia and Libia with Gomer and the Family of Togarmah a very great Army of the North Quarters shall be gathered together upon the Mountains of Israel and shall prevail and spoil the Jews for a small season and this shall be done before the outward Court and walls be finished which causeth the Army of the Gentiles to call Jerusalem a Town of unwalled Villages being without Bars and Gates as you may read Ezek. 38.11 in these words And thou shalt say I will go up to the Land of VNWALLED VILLAGES I will go to them that are at rest that dwell safely all of them dwelling without WALS having neither BARS nor GATES to take a spoil to take a prey c. And to this agreeth the words of the Prophet Zecha 2.1 2 3 4 9. which saith I lift up mine eyes again and looked and behold a man with a MEASVRING LINE in his hand Then said I whither goest thou and he said unto me to measure Jerusalem to see what is the breaà th thereof and what is the length thereof And behold the Angel that talked with me went forth and another Angel went out to meet him and said unto him run speak to the young man saying Jerusalem shall be inhabited as a TOWN without WALS c. From these Scriptures and more that might be added we may see that the Walls and outward Court shall not be finished till it is taken and the holy City trod under foot but the time of its oppression is so short as not worth speaking of in comparison of time namely three years and a half so that this Prophet speaks little of the oppression of Israel but doth as it were overlook it because the time of it is so short and speaks of that which is of the greatest moment namely the Enemies destruction but the Prophet Zechariah agreeing with the Revelations sheweth that the City shall for a small time be surprised and taken and the Jews persecuted although the City it self shall not be destroyed but shall be the place of the Enemies Randesvouz and that this is true read the words of the Prophet Daniel compared with Zechariah which saith He shall enter also into the glorious Land and many Countries shall be overthrown but these shall escape out of his hands even EDOM and MOAB and the CHIEF OF THE CHILDREN OF AMMON and he shall plant the Tabernacle of his Pallace between the Seas in the glorious holy mountain yet he shall come to his end and none shall help him And at that time
Babylon in Caldea trow I think not but in short take this that Israel might not neglect their building but go on with all speed that might be so soon as they were set at liberty from the hands of their enemies even so it is our duty to be imployed about the work of God in his Church so soon as we be delivered from the hands of our enemies yea while the enemy is raging against us as he was against our brethren before us who kept stedfast in the practising of all Christs Ordinances even so ought we to do finally the Lord Jesus Christ when he went away did give forth his last will and Testament in much plainness the which he commanded to be observed by every creature unto the Worlds end and did ascend up on high and gave gifts i. e. the gifts of Ministry containing Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Teachers to that end that his Laws and Statutes might be published and Saints gathered and established until the last Saint which is to be born in the World is united into the faith of Jesus and made perfect therein to the end that God may be glorified in his Church in or thorow all ages even to the Worlds end and if the breach of Moses Law was so hainous in the sight of God much more will the breach of Christs Laws be unto him therefore take heed of breaking one of the least of Christs Commands and teaching men so to do and courteous Reader be well advised what thou dost in the neglect or breach of any of Christs commands before thou dost it and let him that perswades thee to it give thee as plain Texts of Scripture to prove the cessation of them as Christ hath given thee for the continuance of the practising of them for remember that when once the Testament is confirmed no man must add or disanul and to suppose that Christ would give forth his mind in plain words at length and forbid the continuance of them in a figure which may be changed from 1-1-0-0-0 one to ten or to a hundred or a thousand or seven thousand or what men please yea any thing that men will have it to be my meaning in plainness is this as for those figures brought by Mr. Henden to prove the cessation of some of Christ Ordinances have been spoken to or opened by many and some have applyed them one way and some another they are so dark and mysterious as beyond the reach of every godly soul to understand insomuch that if they do neglect the practising of Christs Ordinances from those dark places it must not be from their own understanding but because Mr. Henden openeth it and applyeth it so and if this be a good ground for persons to make void the statutes of Christ which he hath confirmed with his own blood together with mighty deeds of the Holy Ghost sent down from Heaven I shall leave the serious Reader to Judge and shall wind up all with these words of our blessed Saviour which said to his Apostles Teach them viz. every creature or all Nations to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and loe I am with you alwayes even unto the end of the World Amen Mat. 28.20 Mark 16.15 16 And having thus done in the next place I shall speak somewhat briefly as touching the conference before mentioned but the main things have been spoken to already they being the same in substance with the things in his book the which I have already answered and therefore shall speak very little to it the first thing in order was The Ordinances saith Mr. Henden were footed or founded upon an unerring spirit shew the man that hath the same spirit to prove his succession The answer was given that the Ordinances now practised was no new Ordinances but the same which was footed upon the unerring spirit and to remain by the same old appointment of Christ until the worlds end this was the substance although I gave it in more words which time fails me to speak of in particular at present Secondly This man saith Mr. Henden would lead you all in the dark about Baptisme by what authority he takes up his Baptisme is from Mat. 28. the which being truly read according to the Original is Go teach all Nations and baptise them c. And loe I am with you to the end of the world that is to the end of that age which further appears that there was to be a sink or cessation for a time Revel 10.8 The words again denotes a new work of Prophesie so Baptisme doth denote to a particular time The time of speaking at both hands was so long that as I have said I cannot give you an account of the particulars of things because as there was speaking long even so the answer was long the answer in short is the same in substance with the former that I could not lead men in the dark in the business of Baptisme because it was the same that Christ practised and appointed and left in his last will and testament to be practised to the worlds end But the worlds end saith Mr. Henden is to be understood the end of that age Which then was opposed because upon that consequence preaching was as well to cease in the end of that age as Baptisme But however Mr. Hendens judgement was altered he contends in his Book for the continuance of Baptisme in all the times of Apostacy as to the Text Revel 10.8 from the word AGAIN thou must prophesie AGAIN the meaning of it was that although John was then banished into the vail of Patmose from the faces of men yet he was to prophesie again before Kings Rulers and so forth not alluding at all to a sink of the Ministry or Ordinances for a time as Mr. Henden said he also pleaded for Infant Baptisme urging some old thredbare Arguments which is not worth speaking to and railed at me for denying the Covenant although I spake nothing of the Covenant to move him thereunto but my answer in short was that I was so far from denying the Covenant that I did believe that there was two Covenants made with Abraham as I long before that time had published in print But said Mr. John Henden Your power is not derived from the primitive because you do not make the same manifestations Mark 16.17 These Signs shall follow them that believe It was answered that if these Signs must follow in his sense or else the thing it self false for want of that visible demonstration then Mr. Henden was a false Minister and also by the same consequence there is never a true Believer upon earth and then no salvation for the Signs were to follow such as did believe But as I have before proved Signs were for confirmation and the Gospel being once confirmed there is no such use of them as the Law of old being once confirmed with Miracles need no new Sign to
shall Michael stand up the GREAT PRINCE which standeth for the Children of THY people and there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a Nation For Behold the day of the Lord cometh and thy spoil viz. Jerusalems shall be divided in the midst of thee and I will gather all Nations against JERVSALEM to battail and the CITY shall be taken and the Houses riffled and the Women ravished and half of the City shall go forth into Captivity and the residue of the people shall not be out off from the City this is the Woman that flyeth into the Wilderness and the remnant of her Seed which remains Then shall the Lord go forth and fight against those Nations as when he fought in the day of battail and his feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives which is before Jerusalem And I said to the man cloathed in Linnen how long shall it be to the end of these wonders namely the troublesome time and the treading down of JERUSALEM underfoot And I heard the man cloathed in Linnen swear by him that liveth for ever and ever It shall be for a Time and Times and half a Time and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people all these things shall be finished From whence we may see that Jerusalem is to be trod under foot according to the saying of the Text Revel 11. and also the time how long which by Daniel is said to be a Time and Times and half a Time and in the Revelations Chap. 11.2 it is said to be Forty and two Months in these words But the Court which is without the Temple leave out and measure it not for it is given unto the Gentiles and the holy City shall they tread under foot forty and two months All which time the Woman shall be fled into the Wilderness for she flyeth at the first of Jerusalems being taken so soon as she is delivered of the Man-child and it is the remnant of her seed which remaineth in Jerusalem over whom the Beast is to have power forty and two Months Revel 13.5 Zech. 14.1 2. Unto whom the two Witnesses is to prophesie and the time of the Womans flight into the Wilderness is the very same time in latitude with the scattering of the power of the holy people spoken by Daniel Chap. 12.7 And the holy City being trod under foot spoken of by St. John Rev. 11.2 And that you may see that the time of the Womans flight into the Wilderness is the very time of the scattering of the holy People namely the People of the Jews which Daniel frequently cals a holy People for then they shall all be holy unto the Lord and also the treading of the holy City underfoot read Revel 12.14 in these words And to the Woman was given two wings of a great Eagle that she might flee into the Wilderness into her place where she is nourished for a Time and Times and half a Time from the face of the Serpent From all which hath been said I gather this Conclusion which materially offereth it self which is That the Court without which is not to be measured is to be undestood that the Jews are to return and build their City and Temple and the Court without not measured but given unto the Gentiles is to be understood that the Families of the Gentiles above spoken of shall come to Jerusalem as to a Town of unwalled Villages before the outward Court and Walls is finished and take it and divide the spoil and the holy City being trod under foot is to be understood the spoil that will be made in Jerusalem for the space of forty and two Months in the which time the two Prophets or Witnesses shall prophesie unto that party of the Jews which do not flie into the Wilderness Zech. 14.1 2. Revel 11.3 Chap. 12.17 the which time of scattering of the holy People Dan. 12.7 for a Time and Times and half a Time and the holy City being trod under foot forty and two Months Revel 11.2 and the two Witnesses prophesying a thousand two hundred and threescore dayes and the Womans being nourished in the Wilderness from the face of the Serpent a Time and Times and half a Time agreeing with Daniel as before cited All these times though in several phrases is one and the same time for latitude in which time the Jews shall be scattered for as it is called by John Revel 11.2 forty and two Months and a thousand two hundred and threescore dayes yet to clear up what he means by that Time he also cals it a Time and Times and half a Time Revel 12.14 in the same phrase with Daniel 12.7 where he cals it a Time Times and a half which is just three Years and a half for a thousand two hundred and threescore dayes considering according to the Jews account thirty dayes to a Month is just forty and two Months and forty and two Months is also three Years and a half and hence it is called by Daniel and also by John a TIME and TIMES and half a TIME And that a Time is to be understood one Year and Times in the plural number is to be understood Years read Dan. 4 25. in these words And they shall drive thee from men and thy dwelling shall be with the Beasts of the field and seven TIMES shall pass over thee till thou know that the most High ruleth in the Kingdome of men c. From this Text we understand that the seven TIMES is understood the seven Years that Nebuchadnezzar was cast out into the open field to eat grass with the Oxen and to be wet with the dews of heaven until he had humbled himself and acknowledged the Lord So then by TIME in the singular number I understand one Year and by TIMES in the plural number although the least of numbers I understand two Years and by half a TIME I understand half a Year so then the TIME and TIMES and half a TIME is just three Years and a half which is also a thousand two hundred threescore dayes or forty two Months all which being considered with the premises sheweth That although a measuring Line be to pass over Jerusalem yet once again yet before it is finished to wit the Walls or outward Court there will be a stop by the Man of Sin or the great Army before mentioned and the City it self shall be taken and the Houses riffled and it trod under foot three Years and a half and then shall everlasting righteousness be broubt in namely Jesus Christ which shall take the Kindome Dominion greatness of the Kingdoms under the whole Heaven Dan. 7. and sit and raign upon the Throne of his Father David and this is that which I understand from Rev. 11.1 2 3 4. with the fore mentioned Scriptures and many that I could add if I had time the which is plainly signified from
the 15 vers of that fore mentioned 11. Chapter of the Revelations in these words And the seventh Angel sounded and there was a great voice in Heaven saying the KINGDOMES of this WORLD is BECOME the KINGDOMES OF OVR LORD AND OF HIS CHRIST AND HE SHALL RAIGN FOR EVER AND EVER and thus much briefly to the Measurement of the Temple and City and outward Court being cast out and the holy City being trod under foot and fourthly the time of the witnesses Prophesying the which will be just three years and a halfe which is proved in the precedent discourse also more of that a non And as for Mr. Hendens computation of time which is saith he A day being taken for a year the flight of the woman and the City being trod under foot and the two witnesses Prophesying in Sackcloath is to be understood one thousand two hundred and threescore years in which time the Church is only a sealed number dis-robed of the beauty of her exterior Order paragraph 4 page 65. And also he further saith that the time of the beginning of the suffering of the Church and the City being trod under foot was in the year 390. and to be fully expired in the year 1650. and applieth it to a little light broke forth in England about that time and that you may see the SVM of this spoken by him although in more words at large read in his book page 10. compared with paragraph the fourth To which I answer briefly in particulars and First if the forty and two months and the one thousand two hundred and threescore daies with the TIME and TIMES and halfe a TIME all which is acknowledged to be one and the same Time for the Latitude thereof be expired and ended in the year 1950. then upon that account the Woman is come out of the Wilderness already and hath been almost for ten years since upon Mr. Hendens computation or calculation of time and if so I hope Mr. Henden will admit that the Woman may practise all the Ordinances as they were delivered or if not when shall she if it be answered that she is not to practise them till the Winds of the Spirit breath upon them again and if this be the time then is also as clear that the spirit is entered into them again from Mr. Hendens own opinion for these two Prophets saith Mr. Henden were to Prophesie a thousand two hundred and threescore years in Sackcloath which time was expired or ended as he saith in the year 1650 and we find that when they had accomplished their Prophesies which was accomplished at the time aforesaid then they were slain and lay dead but three daies and a halfe the which upon Mr. Hendens account is but three years and a halfe at the end of which time the Spirit of life was to enter into them again Rev. 11.11 which was above six years since Sir look about you its time for you to up and be doing or to cast up your account a new but more to these things anon when I come to shew my opinion upon the travelling Woman and Man-child and Witnesse as before said but I fear I shall be much straitned for time Secondly It cannot be as Mr. Henden saith that the Winds of the Spirit is to be with-holden these forty and two months or 1260. daies so as that there shall not be that visible demonstration of the spirit as in the Primitive time for it is clear that the two witnesses in the time of their Prophesie in Sackcloath shall have as great power and visible demonstration as ever was known upon earth that they have power read Rev. 11.5 6. in these words If any wan will hurt them sire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enimies and if any man will hurt them they must in this manner be killed these have power to shut Heaven that it raine not in the dayes of their Prophesie and have power over waters to turn them into blood Rev. 16.3 4. and to smite the Earth with all plagues as often as they will For the Angels that hold the four Winds the seven Angels are imployed as ministering Spirits both to desend them from the malice of the Beast so as he cannot hurt or interrupt them all the time of their Prophesie and also to pour out their Vyals and with-hold the Winds and smite the earth with curses so often as they please and that they did also exercise their power in the time of their prophesie is clear from vers 11. where it is said that They tormented the Earth so then they had power and did also exercise it which confutes what Mr. Henden saith And thirdly whereas Mr. Henden saith in his page 65. that the true Church is only a Sealed number dis-robed of the beauty of her exteriour order I answer say it seems strange to me that the sealed number which Mr. Henden before said was not hurt and yet saith now that she were dis-robed of her beauty in outward order and if this be not hurt I know not what is hurt because God did ever delight in outward Order where there was inward grace he being a God of Order in all the Churches of his Saints Fourthly It yet wants a proof that ever the Woman lost any one of her robes if she be to be understood a Gentile Church as Mr. Henden saith she is for she had them on when Saint John saw her in his vision and I do not read of any ever saw her without them after she had put them on unless Mr. Henden did but I suppose he did not and so I shall leave this particular and pass to the next particular which is from the text Mat. 24 cited by M. Henden and I shall not take notice of every circumstance of things but the ground of the matter wherein we differ which is saith he The marks of the false Churches are four as first the visibility in their stative order loe here or loe there The second the phrase here and there notes a manifest place of rest or sitting down Thirdly the variety here and there which must Scatter whereas the true is uniform Fourthly The visible loe or model is first and then Christ is brought into it loe here is Christ as if the Spirit of life and divine primitive power were in it the Wilderness is to be understood a Metaphorical Wilderness and secret Chambers which figures out our lesser stated bodies and so forth page 50 51 52. In order to the answer of these things I shall not take notice of every objection or contradiction but shall plainly and briefly cite the text and open it and then leave the reader to judge whether it speak of gathered or false constituted Churches as Mr. Henden saith when it speaks of the Wilderness or desart or secret Chamber or whether it be to be understood litterally of a Material face Christ in a desart or in a