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A60556 An apology for the innocency and justice of the Quakers cause And a short elucidation of their principles. With some reflections upon J. Ives his papers. Written in the behalf of the Christian religion. By William Salmon professor of physick. Salmon, William, 1644-1713. 1674 (1674) Wing S421; ESTC R222357 30,083 114

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impossible to be avoided Either what Christ our Lord spake is Truth or not Truth if Truth then our Confession is in some measure a demonstration of our Justification mangre all the spight and malice of our Adversaries but if they I not own it to be Truth that 's no proof against us while we are faithful Followers of our Master in that we have taken him for our Example and if followers of Christ then Christians But we hope the Adversary will not dare to give our Lord the Author and God of Truth the Lye or yet presume without the Inspiration and Revelation of the Spirit of Truth to give any Construction or add any meaning to those plain words of the Truth it self for fear if he has any fear of God before his eyes that God should add to him the Plagues which are written in that Book 9. The Adversary hath not yet nor indeed can he shew in the least measure any thing of a reason in opposition to what we urged once in a former Paper the which was this Whether what we say is our Faith ought not rather to be taken for our Faith than what our Adversary says it is since we better know what we believe than what another do's if yea wherefore should the Adversary say the contrary if nay wherefore should they or any else be any more believed in any of their Verbal Confessions than we or any other man since there is no reason that their credit should exceed in the least measure ours or any other persons This Argument we think not only unanswerable but also strong enough to make invalid what ever the Adversary can say in opposition to us and not only so but also force him to give himself the Lye It was indeed great Policy in him to decline that which he could not approach to evade those things which neither his Abilities nor Malice dare venture to oppose and to let all those things pass by in silence the bare remembrance of which might be enough perfectly to overthrow his Cause But alas I talk to them who say the Confession of our Faith in Scripture Language is an Old Art of Deceivers Surely the Christian Faith and Holy Scriptures were never thus abused before But this is that the Scripture might be fulfilled they shall say all manner of evil against you falsely for my name sake 10. It is Policy in him that intends to tell a Lye to tell such an one as might have some seeming probabilities of Truth with it and not such as almost the whole world knows to be a notorious Falcity thereby rendring themselves not only void of Honesty but also Wit Let but this Calumny of the Adversaries viz. That the Quakers are no Christians be but seriously considered and you will not only find it look like an egregious Slander but such an apparent Lye as that nothing in the world could be told to exceed it either in Matter End or Evidence I hope there is none thinks but that we believe we have Souls as well as others and that we desire hope for and seek after the Salvation of them as well as others do or at leastwise that we have as much reason to do it as any have And if so who should be so simple as to believe that we should jest with Heaven or trample underfoot the blood of the Covenant as an unworthy thing What Mortal can be so void of Reason as to imagine that we should despise or slight that which has sought us or deny him from whom we not only know we receive all our Mercies here but of whom we hope to have an everlasting Life hereafter and by whom we do believe we shall be made partakers of Glory and Heirs of an eternal Inheritance The Adversary could tell no greater a falcity of us than to say that we deny him who is more to us than all the World beside for whose sake we esteem nothing we have in this world and account all things loss that we may gain him and without doubt his end of speaking of it was only to render us odious to the world and to make us the mark for all to shoot their Arrows at that if possible we might be rooted out from off the face of the Earth This is the Adversaries Charity II. Reflections upon J. Ives his Papers in Particular 1. IN the Adversaries first Paper he lays down his Charges against the Quakers upon a Chalenge to meet them to dispute but more properly to rail and that with so much Confidence and Impudence as if he intended to make the world think he positively believed them himself the which I supose and am perswaded any sober and rational man would judge the contrary and really conceive it was Prejudice not his Faith which made him lay down those Assertions 2. He says that By force of Argument he had driven them to that strait that they could make no reply but the true reason of his not having a reply was because he could not be induced by any means to stay to hear William Pen make his Answer wherein was plainly detected his falshood and Calumnies and to salve that he says he was under some indisposition of Body a notable come off and so it is not to be doubted but he may always be when he sees he is like to come by the worst 3. He says We own such Books as contain in them Doctrines no way reconcilable to Scripture Language or Christian Religion but are destructive both of the one and the other but all the proof he gives us is his bare Affirmation he needs but only say so though nothing be more false he thinks it is a good means of rendering us odious to the world there is no Artifice so excellent with him as to dare and say he will do it that people which know not his Impudence may believe he can though nothing is more impossible to be done 4. In his second Paper he reiterates his Charges and instead of seriously considering and answering of a Paper sent to him by W. S. he makes a long descant because he put not his name at length and then at length taxeth the said W. S. with Contradiction in these words that the Adversaries Tongue was no slander with sober Citizens yet that he never met with more Lyes and Slanders in so few Lines All which may well be true for in respect of the falsity of the Adversaries words themselves they are both Lies and Slanders but in respect of their acceptation with some sober Citizens they might be no Slanders because of their not believing of them 5. And totally to avoid an Answer to the said Paper he relates some Opinions he holds as That the same Body which is now the Habitation of the soul shall rise again and enter with the Soul into everlasting joy or Torment But we query whether this Body must be corruptible and Earthly Elemental or not if Earthly or Elemental the Adversary