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that_o which_o in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o this_o article_n he_o deliver_v which_o be_v that_o christ_n at_o the_o very_a same_o instant_n of_o time_n that_o he_o offer_v himself_o on_o the_o cross_n with_o shed_v of_o blood_n we_o must_v understand_v for_o a_o necessary_a point_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n that_o he_o offer_v himself_o invisible_o as_o concern_v man_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o his_o heavenly_a father_n bear_v the_o mark_n of_o his_o wound_n and_o there_o appear_v before_o the_o face_n of_o god_n with_o that_o thorn_n prick_v nail_n bore_v spear_n pierce_a &_o other_o wound_a rend_v &_o tear_a body_n for_o us._n here_o be_v 4_o sacrifice_n make_v of_o one_o the_o same_o christ_n sacrifice_v at_o his_o last_o supper_n the_o same_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n the_o same_o christ_n at_o the_o same_o time_n sacrifice_v in_o heaven_n &_o the_o same_o christ_n sacrifice_v in_o the_o mass_n how_o m._n harding_n can_v bring_v christ_n sacrifice_v into_o heaven_n without_o his_o tormentor_n be_v hard_o to_o conceive_v aâ—…as_n caiphas_n judas_n pilate_n &_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o damn_a crew_n indeed_o for_o without_o those_o wretch_n christ_n blood_n be_v not_o shed_v and_o without_o shed_v of_o blood_n there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n where_o m._n harding_n shall_v ever_o findany_v such_o doctrine_n deliver_v before_o he_o i_o can_v judge_v sacrifice_n heb._n 9_o l._n 12._o fol._n 421._o a_o incruentam_fw-la oblationem_fw-la christus_fw-la in_o come_v lie_fw-la fecit_fw-la in_o his_o explication_n &_o assertion_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_a faith_n l._n 5._o fol._n 144_o b._n no_o iteration_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n except_o he_o do_v allight_z upon_o it_o in_o melchior_n canus_n who_o among_o other_o idle_a &_o vain_a discourse_n of_o their_o mass_n insinuate_v such_o a_o thing_n speak_v of_o a_o unbloody_a sacrifice_n in_o heaven_n offer_v there_o by_o christ_n stephan_n gardiner_n sometime_o bishop_n of_o winchester_n a_o sure_a card_n to_o the_o poster_v at_o rome_n write_v purposely_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n begin_v well_o say_v it_o be_v agree_v &_o by_o the_o scripture_n plain_o teach_v that_o the_o oblation_n &_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v &_o be_v a_o perfect_a work_n once_o consummate_v in_o perfection_n without_o necessity_n of_o iteration_n as_o it_o be_v never_o teach_v to_o be_v iterate_v but_o a_o mere_a blasphemy_n to_o presuppose_v it_o this_o be_v sound_a &_o catholic_a if_o he_o will_v abide_v by_o it_o but_o within_o two_o leaf_n after_o he_o say_v we_o must_v believe_v the_o very_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n on_o god_n board_n and_o that_o the_o priest_n do_v their_o sacrifice_n and_o be_v therefore_o call_v sacrificer_n if_o the_o priest_n do_v there_o sacrifice_v sacrificer_n ibid._n fol._n 146._o b_o very_a sacrificer_n they_o do_v they_o either_o iterate_v christ_n sacrifice_n or_o
euch_fw-ge l._n 2._o c._n 10._o f._n 183._o step._n gard._n f._n 21._o b._n that_o the_o real_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v on_o that_o holy_a table_n put_v and_o lay_v the_o better_a to_o signify_v the_o real_a presence_n put_v and_o lay_v as_o all_o man_n know_v according_a to_o the_o natural_a signification_n require_v situation_n of_o place_n and_o bodily_a description_n how_o do_v he_o not_o fill_v a_o place_n when_o he_o be_v put_v &_o lay_v there_o stephan_n gardiner_n be_v as_o far_o at_o odds_o with_o his_o own_o reason_n in_o this_o matter_n as_o d._n harding_n when_o we_o acknowledge_v by_o faith_n say_v he_o christ_n body_n present_a although_o we_o say_v it_o be_v present_v true_o real_o substantial_o yet_o we_o say_v our_o sense_n be_v not_o privy_a to_o that_o presence_n ne_o the_o manner_n of_o it_o but_o by_o instruction_n of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o we_o say_v christ_n body_n be_v not_o local_o present_a nor_o by_o manner_n of_o quantity_n but_o in_o visible_o and_o in_o no_o sensible_a manner_n but_o marvelous_o in_o a_o sacrament_n &_o mystery_n true_o and_o in_o such_o a_o spiritual_a manner_n as_o we_o can_v define_v &_o determine_v and_o yet_o by_o faith_n we_o know_v his_o body_n present_a the_o part_n of_o which_o be_v in_o themselves_o distinct_a one_o from_o a_o other_o in_o their_o own_o substance_n but_o not_o by_o circumscription_n of_o several_a place_n to_o be_v comprehend_v of_o us._n what_o mr._n do_v gardiner_n follow_v in_o this_o christ_n body_n be_v not_o local_o present_a and_o yet_o have_v distinction_n of_o part_n christ_n body_n have_v distinction_n of_o part_n and_o yet_o not_o by_o circumscription_n of_o several_a place_n to_o be_v comprehend_v of_o us._n thomas_n of_o aquine_n deni_v this_o the_o determinate_a distance_n of_o part_n in_o a_o natural_a body_n sacrament_n p._n 3._o q._n 76._o art_n 3._o ad_fw-la 2._o distance_n of_o part_n be_v in_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o not_o in_o that_o body_n which_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o dimensive_a quantity_n such_o a_o distance_n of_o part_n say_v he_o be_v in_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o according_a to_o that_o distance_n of_o part_n he_o be_v not_o in_o this_o sacrament_n but_o he_o be_v there_o according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o substance_n here_o beside_o the_o disagreement_n of_o thomas_n from_o gardiner_n thomas_n have_v frame_v such_o a_o christ_n as_o indeed_o be_v no_o christ_n he_o have_v nether_a quantity_n nor_o proportion_n of_o body_n nor_o distance_n of_o part_n yet_o he_o confess_v that_o his_o true_a body_n in_o heaven_n have_v so_o and_o if_o his_o body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n have_v not_o so_o then_o either_o he_o overthrow_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n body_n or_o else_o it_o will_v inevitable_o follow_v without_o any_o qualification_n if_n or_o and_n that_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n gardiner_n say_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v there_o in_o no_o sensible_a manner_n as_o before_o allen_n say_v corpus_n christ_n est_fw-la sensibiliter_fw-la in_o sacramentâ—_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v sensible_o in_o the_o sacrament_n 435._o allen_n ut_fw-la ante_fw-la fol._n 435._o again_o within_o three_o page_n do_v gardiner_n contradict_v himself_o twice_o very_o direct_o in_o the_o first_o he_o say_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n give_v true_o his_o flesh_n to_o be_v eat_v b._n fol._n 87._o b._n the_o same_o which_o he_o take_v of_o the_o virgin_n next_o we_o receane_n not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n christ_n flesh_n that_o be_v crucify_v be_v so_o a_o visible_a &_o mortal_a flesh_n but_o christ_n flesh_n glorious_a incorruptible_a &_o impassable_a a_o godly_a &_o spiritual_a flesh_n and_o yet_o so_o constant_a be_v he_o in_o the_o very_a next_o page_n a._n fol._n 89._o a._n he_o strive_v to_o prove_v out_o of_o s._n jerome_n &_o other_o that_o they_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o we_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v sit_v in_o heaven_n reign_v some_o joseph_n or_o daniel_n must_v expound_v these_o dream_n first_o we_o receive_v not_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v crucify_v last_o we_o receive_v he_o not_o as_o he_o sit_v in_o heaven_n reign_v and_o be_v glorify_v so_o by_o this_o reckon_n nether_a first_o nor_o last_o do_v we_o receive_v he_o at_o al._n 24._o de_fw-fr euch._n sac_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 2_o fol._n 24._o how_o can_v bellarmine_n say_v and_o say_v true_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n have_v his_o natural_a manner_n of_o be_v in_o heaven_n but_o in_o the_o sacrament_n it_o have_v not_o his_o natural_a but_o sacramental_a which_o we_o also_o say_v and_o yet_o that_o sacramental_a manner_n to_o be_v express_v by_o the_o word_n substantial_o and_o again_o to_o say_v that_o whersoever_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v 320._o ibid._n l._n 3._o c._n 7._o f._n 317._o 320._o there_o he_o have_v his_o form_n &_o humane_a shape_n &_o situation_n of_o part_n &_o order_n which_o he_o have_v in_o heaven_n and_o that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n aswell_o as_o in_o heaven_n &_o yet_o in_o the_o one_o to_o fill_v a_o place_n and_o have_v distinction_n of_o part_n and_o in_o the_o other_o to_o fill_v no_o place_n and_o yet_o have_v his_o dimension_n &_o distinction_n of_o part_n which_o be_v very_o hard_a 27._o ibid._n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o foe_n 26._o 27._o a_o gain_n he_o teach_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v verum_fw-la veale_fw-mi naturale_fw-la animatum_fw-la quantum_fw-la coloratum_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o true_a body_n real_a natural_a have_v life_n big_a or_o great_a &_o colour_v &_o yet_o we_o may_v not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v sensible_a visible_a to_o be_v touch_v stretch_v out_o although_o it_o be_v so_o in_o heaven_n bellarmine_n in_o this_o controversy_n be_v like_o turnus_n in_o the_o skirmish_n with_o aeneas_n petit_fw-la aequor_fw-la a_o tornus_fw-la he_o traverse_v the_o field_n 12._o virg._n in_o aenei_fw-la l._n 12._o as_o though_o he_o will_v do_v much_o but_o incertos_fw-la implicat_fw-la orb_n but_o his_o turn_n and_o round_n foreshowed_n his_o ill_a success_n nam_fw-la perfidus_fw-la â—…sis_fw-la frangitur_fw-la in_o modiâ—que_fw-la ardentem_fw-la desâ—ritictu_fw-la his_o treacherous_a sword_n break_v and_o leave_v he_o burn_v in_o rage_n in_o the_o heat_n of_o the_o conflict_n so_o do_v bellarmine_n own_o word_n confute_v his_o cause_n have_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v his_o form_n &_o humane_a shape_n and_o situation_n of_o part_n and_o yet_o may_v we_o not_o say_v it_o be_v extensum_fw-la extend_v into_o place_n and_o yet_o may_v we_o say_v that_o he_o want_v not_o his_o dimension_n nor_o be_v without_o shape_n &_o countenance_n in_o the_o eucharist_n 186._o nos_fw-la non_fw-la dicimus_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n dimensionibus_fw-la aut_fw-la fancy_n career_n in_o sermone_fw-la de_fw-fr sancto_fw-la martino_n twice_o cite_v by_o 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initio_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la sed_fw-la panem_fw-la velut_fw-la materiam_fw-la &_o elementum_fw-la &c._n &c._n saunders_n ibid._n fol_z 658._o 659._o he_o break_v bread_n they_o the_o real_a body_n be_v not_o there_o not_o his_o body_n but_o bread_n as_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n &_o element_n whereunto_o his_o word_n be_v to_o be_v join_v that_o it_o may_v be_v make_v a_o sacrament_n do_v he_o not_o speak_v of_o the_o bread_n then_o when_o he_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n furthermore_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n although_o it_o be_v neither_o eat_v nor_o drunken_a he_o begin_v with_o s._n paul_n who_o say_v 1._o cor._n 10._o the_o cup_n of_o blessing_n which_o we_o bless_v be_v it_o not_o a_o partake_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o bread_n which_o we_o break_v be_v it_o not_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o infer_v we_o break_v the_o bread_n 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which_o be_v distinct_a and_o refuse_v that_o for_o a_o blessing_n which_o the_o gospel_n point_v &_o call_v a_o blessing_n &_o on_o the_o other_o side_n call_v that_o a_o blessing_n which_o the_o gospel_n do_v not_o 3._o instit_fw-la l._n 5._o c_o 3._o he_o can_v never_o justify_v his_o report_n haec_fw-la est_fw-la mendaciorum_fw-la naturae_fw-la ut_fw-la cobaerere_fw-la von_n possint_fw-la this_o be_v say_v lactaâ—tius_n the_o nature_n of_o lie_n that_o they_o can_v agree_v to_o gether_o 6._o &_o cap._n 6._o valet_fw-la enim_fw-la visua_fw-la veritas_fw-la but_o the_o truth_n do_v prevail_v of_o she_o own_o force_n whosoever_o resist_v if_o one_o or_o two_o of_o they_o do_v thus_o dote_v or_o dream_v in_o their_o discourse_n it_o may_v be_v excuse_v by_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o man_n but_o since_o among_o
that_o it_o be_v before_o if_o he_o can_v prove_v this_o he_o come_v short_a of_o his_o purpose_n to_o take_v needless_a pain_n to_o prove_v a_o thing_n not_o deny_v for_o both_o he_o &_o all_o other_o of_o his_o side_n when_o they_o speak_v of_o blessing_n of_o the_o bread_n mean_v only_o a_o turn_n &_o change_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o a_o other_o such_o a_o change_n as_o blessing_n nether_a can_v or_o ever_o do_v work_v &_o yet_o bellarmine_n must_v remember_v that_o in_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o supper_n the_o break_n follow_v after_o the_o blessing_n so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o doubt_n what_o be_v break_v bread_n there_o be_v none_o &_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o say_v must_v not_o be_v break_v which_o consideration_n make_v bellarmine_n salve_v himself_o a_o other_o way_n by_o say_v to_o be_v break_v agree_v not_o to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n 7._o bellar._n de_fw-fr mis_fw-fr l._n 1._o c._n 12._o f._n 699._o to_o be_v break_v a._n gree_v not_o to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n allen_n de_fw-fr euch._n sacra_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 15._o &c_n &c_n 16._o &_o bell._n de_fw-fr sac_fw-la euch_fw-ge l._n 1_o c._n 10._o rhem._n annot_fw-mi mat._n 26_o v._n 26._o parag_n 7._o what_o need_v he_o say_v in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n why_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o there_o but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n therefore_o by_o he_o there_o be_v as_o very_o a_o break_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o there_o be_v a_o very_a presence_n a_o presence_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n &_o a_o break_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n d._n allen_n in_o two_o several_a chapter_n go_v about_o to_o prove_v first_o that_o christ_n do_v bless_v or_o eucharishze_v the_o bread_n &_o wine_n &_o that_o with_o certain_a word_n next_o that_o those_o word_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la this_o be_v my_o body_n be_v the_o word_n of_o consecration_n &_o that_o those_o two_o be_v both_o one_o first_o from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n benedicere_fw-la to_o bless_v he_o discourse_v wonderful_o both_o in_o greek_a &_o latin_a of_o the_o strength_n &_o virtue_n of_o it_o ult._n fol._n 291_o quanquam_fw-la totam_fw-la ceremo_fw-la niam_fw-la ordinem_fw-la non_fw-la narrent_fw-la nec_fw-la plura_fw-la verba_fw-la quibus_fw-la ea_fw-la seu_fw-la eucharistic_a seu_fw-la eulogia_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la ver_fw-la bonè_fw-la a_o sola_fw-la voluntatâ—_n aut_fw-la impositione_n manuum_fw-la fol._n 294._o luc._n ult._n &_o the_o use_v it_o have_v in_o holy_a scripture_n &_o in_o the_o doctor_n &_o yet_o have_v not_o bring_v any_o one_o example_n near_o his_o purpose_n for_o how_o can_v he_o say_v that_o that_o blessing_n use_v by_o our_o saviour_n be_v the_o blessing_n of_o the_o creature_n &_o element_n a_o active_a blessing_n a_o powerful_a blessing_n see_v he_o confess_v himself_o that_o the_o evangelist_n do_v not_o recite_v any_o order_n of_o the_o blessing_n nor_o express_v any_o more_o word_n that_o belong_v thereto_o but_o only_o the_o word_n blessing_n &_o give_v thauke_n and_o also_o doubt_v whether_o christ_n do_v bless_v by_o avie_v word_n or_o by_o his_o intent_n and_o will_n or_o by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n for_o we_o read_v not_o say_v he_o what_o christ_n do_v or_o say_v in_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o thing_n notwithstanding_o this_o he_o be_v so_o far_o in_o love_n with_o his_o own_o conceit_n of_o blessing_n by_o certain_a word_n that_o he_o bring_v eth_z the_o bread_n for_o a_o example_n which_o christ_n bless_v at_o emaus_n when_o the_o two_o disciple_n know_v he_o which_o say_v he_o be_v take_v of_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_n to_o be_v the_o eucharist_n although_o the_o evangelist_n recite_v no_o word_n in_o form_n how_o it_o be_v do_v mention_v no_o word_n of_o consecration_n mention_v so_o that_o we_o may_v see_v whatsoever_o he_o be_v dispose_v to_o prove_v be_v there_o scripture_n or_o be_v there_o none_o all_o be_v one_o with_o he_o he_o will_v adventure_v to_o persuade_v what_o like_v he_o best_o 480._o allen_n eodem_fw-la lib_n post_fw-la c._n 45._o fol._n 480._o and_o yet_o the_o same_o man_n a_o far_o of_o in_o a_o other_o part_n of_o the_o same_o book_n speak_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n as_o have_v forget_v himself_o say_v that_o the_o text_n of_o s._n luke_n cap._n ult._n and_o all_o the_o order_n of_o the_o narration_n do_v show_v that_o the_o whole_a action_n be_v like_a to_o the_o consecrate_v of_o the_o eucharist_n eucharist_n now_o it_o be_v the_o eucharist_n he_o take_v say_v the_o evangelist_n bread_n he_o bless_v it_o he_o break_v the_o bread_n and_o reach_v it_o unto_o they_o if_o this_o action_n here_o do_v be_v like_a to_o the_o order_n of_o consecration_n use_v at_o the_o eucharist_n than_o there_o may_v be_v consecration_n without_o addition_n of_o this_o be_v my_o body_n which_o he_o profess_v to_o prove_v to_o be_v all_o one_o or_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o blessing_n itself_o yea_o &_o without_o receive_v at_o all_o for_o there_o be_v no_o command_n of_o eat_v people_n allen_n traverse_v here_o this_o example_n to_o prove_v the_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_a lawful_a for_o the_o lie_v people_n but_o i_o will_v not_o wish_v d._n allen_n or_o any_o papist_n of_o they_o all_o to_o live_v by_o the_o loss_n for_o although_o they_o think_v to_o gain_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o christ_n there_o in_o draw_v it_o to_o confirm_v their_o defaulk_a of_o one_o part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n from_o the_o lie_v people_n because_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o the_o wine_n yet_o will_v they_o lose_v by_o it_o if_o the_o example_n be_v strong_a enough_o for_o one_o kind_n because_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o any_o consecration_n &_o where_o no_o consecration_n be_v there_o be_v no_o real_a presence_n and_o so_o they_o shall_v lose_v transubstantiation_n &_o all_o and_o can_v it_o be_v the_o eucharist_n without_o these_o but_o howsoever_o d._n allen_n will_v have_v we_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_n and_o of_o great_a druine_n that_o that_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharist_n yet_o bellarmine_n who_o be_v more_o free_a of_o his_o report_n say_v 563._o de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la ieuc_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 24._o f._n 563._o that_o touch_v that_o place_n there_o be_v two_o opinion_n among_o the_o catholic_n themselves_o the_o one_o be_v of_o john_n of_o louvain_n &_o other_o that_o it_o be_v the_o eucharist_n the_o other_o of_o jansenius_n that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o eucharist_n &_o both_o these_o great_a man_n with_o that_o side_n but_o to_o return_v to_o d._n allen_n from_o who_o i_o have_v a_o little_a digress_v &_o to_o follow_v he_o in_o his_o blessing_n &_o consecration_n be_v allen_n ut_fw-la ante_fw-la de_fw-fr euch_fw-ge c._n 15._o fol._n 294._o qua_fw-la re_fw-mi creden_fw-mi dum_fw-la est_fw-la christum_fw-la benedicendo_fw-la panem_fw-la verbo_fw-la aliquo_fw-la usum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la &_o non_fw-la solo_fw-la tactu_fw-la aut_fw-la virtute_fw-la eum_fw-la sanctificasse_fw-la et_fw-la cum_fw-la eodem_fw-la verbo_fw-la quo_fw-la benedixit_fw-la consecrasse_n putetur_fw-la ab_fw-la antiquitate_fw-la &_o pene_fw-la ab_fw-la on_fw-we nibus_fw-la theologis_fw-la licet_fw-la pauci_fw-la quidam_fw-la negent_fw-la cumque_fw-la hic_fw-la ut_fw-la saepe_fw-la docuimus_fw-la consecrare_fw-la materiam_fw-la sit_fw-la conficere_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la sequi_fw-la tur_fw-la idem_fw-la illud_fw-la verbum_fw-la benedictionis_fw-la esse_fw-la formam_fw-la huius_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la ut_fw-la idem_fw-la sit_fw-la beney_n dicere_fw-la &_o uti_fw-la verbis_fw-la consecrationis_fw-la seu_fw-la applicare_fw-la verba_fw-la consecrationis_fw-la ad_fw-la eleman_n ta_fw-la proposita_fw-la to_o bless_v &_o to_o consecrate_v be_v all_o one_o he_o commend_v this_o opinion_n with_o great_a reason_n &_o yet_o he_o refuse_v it_o ibid._n 295._o 1._o he_o take_v bread_n 2._o he_o bless_v 3._o he_o break_v &_o give_v 4._o this_o in_o my_o body_n tho._n aquin._n p._n 3._o q._n 78._o say_v the_o order_n shall_v be_v wherefore_o say_v he_o it_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v that_o christ_n by_o blessing_n the_o bread_n use_v some_o word_n &_o that_o he_o do_v not_o sanctify_v it_o only_o by_o touch_v it_o or_o by_o his_o power_n and_o since_o it_o be_v judge_v by_o antiquity_n &_o almost_o by_o all_o divine_v although_o some_o few_o deny_v it_o that_o christ_n consecrate_v by_o the_o same_o word_n whereby_o he_o bless_v &_o that_o to_o consecrate_v the_o matter_n be_v to_o make_v the_o sacrament_n it_o follow_v that_o that_o same_o word_n that_o be_v the_o blessing_n be_v the_o form_n of_o this_o sacrament_n insomuch_o that_o it_o be_v all_o one_o to_o bless_v &_o to_o use_v the_o word_n of_o consecration_n or_o to_o apply_v the_o word_n of_o consecration_n to_o the_o element_n set_v before_o
we_o notwithstanding_o this_o say_v he_o it_o must_v not_o be_v dissemble_v that_o there_o be_v some_o divine_n among_o who_o be_v bonaventure_n caietane_n &_o dominicus_n soto_n who_o affirm_v that_o christ_n do_v not_o bless_v by_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n &_o therefore_o to_o bless_v the_o bread_n and_o to_o consecrate_v the_o bread_n be_v two_o diverse_a thing_n in_o the_o action_n of_o christ_n &_o so_o the_o change_n be_v not_o make_v by_o the_o blessing_n but_o after_o by_o the_o sacramental_a word_n which_o opinion_n say_v he_o although_o it_o may_v probable_o be_v defend_v &_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o use_n of_o the_o church_n which_o now_o bless_v the_o bread_n by_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n before_o it_o use_v the_o word_n of_o consecration_n and_o may_v less_o trouble_v the_o order_n of_o the_o evangelist_n who_o after_o the_o mention_n of_o blessing_n do_v put_v the_o break_n &_o distribute_v &_o then_o in_o the_o four_o place_n the_o 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word_n again_o so_o plain_o deliver_v 136._o ibid._n fol._n 20_o a._n &_o 21._o b_o &_o har._n ut_fw-la ante_fw-la 136._o how_o oft_o do_v gardner_n tell_v we_o that_o but_o by_o faith_n he_o know_v not_o how_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n god_n do_v we_o to_o understand_v by_o faith_n the_o truth_n of_o christ_n presence_n and_o bellarmine_n himself_o within_o four_o hour_n read_v after_o spiritual_o athanasius_n use_v the_o word_n spiritual_o answer_v to_o the_o ancient_a father_n athanasius_n who_o say_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n be_v our_o spiritual_a nourishment_n and_o spiritual_o distribute_v be_v drive_v to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v most_o right_o call_v our_o spiritual_a food_n 186._o christ_n body_n be_v food_n for_o the_o spirit_n and_o not_o for_o the_o body_n bellar_n de_fw-fr sacr_n euch_fw-ge l._n 2._o c._n 11._o fol._n 186._o because_o it_o be_v give_v for_o the_o food_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o not_o of_o the_o body_n and_o distribute_v spiritual_o and_o that_o christ_n make_v mention_v of_o his_o ascension_n to_o show_v that_o his_o flesh_n be_v not_o to_o be_v eat_v as_o other_o meat_n be_v which_o be_v the_o carnal_a understanding_n of_o the_o caparnaite_n say_v spiritual_n quodam_fw-la modo_fw-la but_o after_o a_o certain_a spiritual_a manner_n be_v not_o bellarmine_n come_v to_o that_o term_n which_o he_o be_v so_o much_o a_o fray_v of_o if_o the_o caparnaite_n be_v gross_a and_o fleshly_a in_o think_v that_o christ_n flesh_n be_v to_o be_v eat_v more_o aliarum_fw-la carnium_fw-la as_o other_o flesh_n be_v i_o be_o well_o assure_v bellarmine_n be_v a_o caparnaite_n also_o &_o he_o have_v as_o gross_a a_o conceit_n of_o christ_n flesh_n absurdity_n bellar_n ut_fw-la ante_fw-la l._n 1._o c_o 2._o fol._n 28._o &_o 2._o c._n 8._o f._n 163._o &_o l._n 1._o c._n 11._o fol._n 92_o most_o gross_a absurdity_n as_o they_o can_v have_v for_o he_o say_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n be_v transfer_v from_o the_o hand_n to_o the_o mouth_n 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tongue_n and_o palate_n and_o then_o again_o he_o do_v most_o strange_o leave_v himself_o in_o join_v the_o hand_n mouth_n tongue_n pallate_n and_o stomach_n in_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n 29._o attritio_fw-la denti_fw-la bus_fw-la facta_fw-la bellar._n ib._n f._n 29._o and_o yet_o deny_v the_o chew_v or_o grind_v of_o the_o tooth_n which_o necessary_o accompany_v the_o rest_n especial_o have_v tell_v we_o before_o that_o infigimus_fw-la dentes_fw-la carnichristi_fw-la we_o fasten_v our_o tooth_n in_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n neither_o be_v this_o bellarmine_n case_n alone_o when_o he_o be_v press_v with_o any_o authority_n of_o the_o father_n to_o fly_v to_o our_o very_a term_n and_o to_o use_v our_o phrase_n but_o all_o other_o of_o they_o also_o do_v the_o like_a say_v ut_fw-la ante_fw-la ratio_fw-la 2._o fol._n 106._o a_o spiritual_a kind_n of_o eat_v a_o natural_a and_o substantial_a thing_n if_o real_a be_v use_v in_o opposition_n to_o spiritual_a how_o can_v 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language_n to_o that_o valetan_n torrens_n conf_n au_n l._n 3._o the_o sacr_n euch_fw-ge c._n 4._o fol._n 318._o b._n in_o gloss_n carnen_n christi_fw-la sacramento_fw-la panis_fw-la valetan_n with_o which_o he_o begin_v his_o work_n for_o be_v trouble_v as_o his_o fellow_n jesuit_n be_v with_o answer_v to_o s._n augustine_n a_o father_n who_o be_v most_o plain_a against_o they_o be_v fain_o to_o express_v that_o manner_n of_o eat_v which_o s._n augustineâ—speaketh_v â—speaketh_z of_o to_o be_v do_v dentibus_fw-la fidei_fw-la with_o the_o tooth_n of_o our_o faith_n but_o the_o body_n be_v hide_v under_o the_o show_n of_o bread_n which_o latter_a clause_n s._n augustine_n never_o use_v to_o show_v the_o manner_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v only_o the_o jesuit_n colour_n to_o avoid_v s._n augustine_n spiritual_a with_o the_o tooth_n of_o our_o faith_n with_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o faith_n lud._n granat_n de_fw-fr freq_fw-fr commun_v fol._n 100_o ut_fw-la 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