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A12557 Paralleles, censures, observations Aperteyning: to three several writinges, 1. A lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard, by Iohn Smyth. 2. A book intituled, the Seperatists schisme published by Mr. Bernard. 3. An answer made to that book called the Sep. Schisme by Mr. H. Ainsworth. Whereunto also are adioyned. 1. The said lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard divided into 19. sections. 2. Another lettre written to Mr. A.S. 3. A third letter written to certayne bretheren of the seperation. By Iohn Smyth. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22877; ESTC S103006 171,681 180

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though_o it_o occupy_v the_o place_n or_o a_o natural_a part_n so_o a_o hypocrite_n or_o one_o that_o continue_v not_o to_o the_o end_n possess_v only_o a_o room_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n &_o be_v not_o indeed_o a_o true_a member_n you_o will_v demand_v then_o why_o we_o receive_v hypocrite_n among_o we_o whereto_o i_o answer_v we_o can_v discern_v a_o hypocrite_n &_o therefore_o we_o be_v to_o judge_n of_o man_n according_a to_o that_o we_o see_v measure_v they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o which_o be_v conceal_v from_o we_o we_o be_v not_o to_o pry_v into_o wherefore_o our_o judgement_n must_v alter_v &_o change_v as_o occasion_n vary_v &_o so_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o a_o righteous_a man_n forsake_v his_o righteousness_n ezech._n 18.24_o whereas_o in_o truth_n the_o gift_n &_o call_v of_o god_n be_v without_o repentance_n rom._n 11.29_o bree_o therefore_o to_o deliver_v unto_o you_o the_o truth_n i_o hold_v concern_v this_o point_n 1._o the_o visible_a church_n consist_v of_o a_o outward_a &_o inward_a communion_n 2._o the_o inward_a communion_n be_v know_v only_o to_o god_n so_o be_v the_o member_n thereof_o 3._o the_o outward_a visible_a communion_n be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o discern_v by_o man_n so_o be_v the_o member_n thereof_o 4._o we_o a●●_n to_o judge_n man_n for_o the_o present_a to_o be_v both_o of_o the_o inward_a &_o outward_a communion_n if_o they_o manifest_v to_o we_o a_o ourward_a 〈◊〉_d faith_n ●_o 〈◊〉_d afterward_o man_n apostate_n finaly_a than_o we_o chandg_v our_o mind_n &_o say_v they_o be_v ●ever_o of_o we_o for_o have_v they_o be_v of_o we_o they_o will_v have_v continue_v with_o us._n now_o mr._n bern._n i_o pray_v you_o answer_v we_o this_o which_o we_o thus_o justify_v out_o of_o the_o word_n if_o you_o can_v if_o you_o can_v yield_v to_o the_o truth_n &_o embrace_v the_o faith_n &_o we_o shall_v rejoice_v 〈◊〉_d you_o &_o with_o you_o parallel_n censure_n observation_n aperteyn_a to_o the_o six_o section_n mr._n bern._n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o separatist_n schism_n pa._n 83._o have_v these_o word_n viz_n their_o five_o error_n be_v that_o only_a saint_n that_o be_v a_o people_n forsake_v all_o know_a sin_n of_o which_o they_o may_v be_v convince_v do_v all_o the_o know_a will_n of_o god_n increase_v &_o abide_v ever_o therein_o be_v the_o only_a matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n in_o this_o section_n mr._n bern._n say_v thus_o it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o teach_v that_o only_a saint_n as_o mr._n smyth_n define_v they_o by_o 4_o property_n be_v the_o only_a matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n mr._n ainswortht_v confutation_n of_o mr._n bern._n pag._n 174._o say_v that_o he_o deny_v this_o position_n &_o disclaym_v the_o error_n which_o mr._n bern._n gather_v from_o they_o refer_v he_o to_o they_o that_o hold_v it_o then_o mr._n ainsworth_n show_v what_o he_o hold_v that_o saint_n by_o calling_n be_v the_o only_a matter_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n yet_o that_o many_o be_v call_v &_o few_o choose_v let_v the_o reader_n consider_v the_o exposition_n that_o i_o have_v give_v to_o this_o position_n in_o this_o section_n of_o my_o letter_n &_o then_o let_v he_o give_v his_o verdict_n the_o exposition_n be_v summary_o thus_o much_o viz_n that_o see_v the_o visible_a church_n consist_v of_o a_o ontward_a &_o inward_a communion_n they_o that_o be_v only_o of_o the_o outward_a visible_a communion_n as_o hypocrite_n be_v no_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o only_o in_o reputation_n &_o account_n before_o man_n now_o i_o demand_v of_o master_n bernard_n again_o with_o what_o face_n or_o good_a conscience_n he_o dare_v thus_o ●●●se_v the_o world_n to_o publish_v this_o position_n bare_o without_o my_o expo●●●ion_n or_o not_o to_o answer_v that_o which_o i_o bring_v for_o the_o confirmation_n thereof_o but_o naked_o to_o set_v it_o down_o &_o then_o only_o to_o object_v against_o it_o herein_o you_o bewray_v to_o i_o a_o mind_n willing_a to_o hide_v the_o truth_n &_o to_o deceive_v the_o world_n &_o to_o draw_v the_o lord_n truth_n into_o detestation_n which_o whither_o it_o be_v not_o the_o quality_n of_o a_o false_a prophett●_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o godly_a mind_v and_o whither_o hereby_o you_o do_v not_o verify_v christ_n speech_n that_o you_o come_v to_o rob_v kill_v &_o to_o destroy_v &_o that_o therefore_o you_o be_v a_o thief_n &_o a_o robber_n joh._n 10.1.10_o but_o because_o you_o be_v so_o importunate_a with_o your_o objection_n &_o reason_n let_v we_o here_o what_o they_o be_v first_o you_o say_v my_o description_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o proper_a description_n of_o the_o invisible_a member_n of_o christ_n jesus_n &_o that_o it_o exclude_v hypocrite_n from_o be_v true_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n i_o answer_v two_o thing_n namely_o 1._o that_o a_o hypocrite_n may_v perform_v all_o these_o 4._o property_n mention_v in_o the_o description_n of_o saint_n for_o he_o may_v 1_o forsake_v all_o know_a sin_n 2._o do_v all_o the_o know_a will_n of_o god_n 3._o grow_v in_o knowledge_n &_o grace_n 4._o continue_v to_o the_o end_n &_o yet_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n to_o the_o lord_n in_o secret_a do_v you_o think_v mr._n bernard_n that_o all_o that_o die_v thus_o qualify_v in_o the_o estimation_n of_o man_n be_v indeed_o save_v with_o the_o l_o i_o confess_v to_o i_o they_o be_v undoubted_o save_v but_o be_v they_o so_o to_o the_o lord_n make_v a_o direct_a answer_n to_o this_o particular_a &_o you_o shall_v be_v compel_v to_o see_v &_o confess_v your_o 〈◊〉_d v●●_n 2._o i_o answer_v more_o proper_o thus_o when_o i_o define_v saint_n i_o must_v define_v they_o not_o as_o they_o be_v in_o show_n for_o the_o present_a but_o as_o they_o be_v indeed_o &_o truth_n now_o truth_n be_v so_o either_o before_o man_n or_o before_o god_n before_o man_n that_o be_v true_a sometime_o which_o be_v false_a before_o god_n &_o before_o god_n that_o be_v true_a sometime_o which_o be_v false_a before_o man_n that_o be_v true_a before_o man_n which_o be_v prove_v by_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n mat._n 18.16_o he_o therefore_o be_v a_o saint_n before_o man_n in_o truth_n that_o continue_v to_o the_o end_n in_o faith_n repentance_n &_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o he_o be_v a_o saint_n before_o man_n in_o ●hew_n &_o appearance_n for_o the_o present_a that_o for_o the_o present_a bring_v forth_o fruit_n worthy_a amendment_n of_o life_n for_o a_o righteous_a man_n may_v forsake_v his_o righteousness_n ezech._n 18.14_o i_o be_o not_o therefore_o to_o define_v a_o saint_n as_o he_o be_v in_o show_n for_o the_o present_a but_o as_o he_o be_v indeed_o for_o ever_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n neither_o do_v i_o define_v a_o saint_n as_o he_o be_v in_o the_o lord_n knowledge_n which_o be_v not_o reveal_v to_o man_n but_o as_o he_o be_v reveal_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o will_v declare_v this_o by_o instance_n for_o your_o further_a information_n &_o satisfaction_n stephen_n damas_n tertullus_n stephen_n continue_v to_o the_o end_n demas_n embrace_v the_o world_n &_o fall_v back_o from_o the_o truth_n tertullus_n never_o come_v to_o the_o truth_n for_o aught_o that_o be_v reveal_v i_o say_v stephen_n be_v a_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o continue_v to_o the_o end_n demas_n be_v no_o saint_n nor_o no_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n indeed_o but_o only_o in_o show_n tertullus_n be_v no_o saint_n nor_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n so_o much_o as_o in_o show_n or_o appearance_n what_o tertullus_n be_v in_o secret_a to_o the_o lord_n i_o dispute_v not_o nor_o regard_v not_o what_o demas_n be_v what_o stephen_n be_v in_o the_o lord_n counsel_v it_o do_v not_o aperteyne_a unto_o we_o we_o must_v judge_n according_a to_o that_o we_o see_v &_o know_v i_o say_v still_o with_o the_o apostle_n continuance_n be_v a_o true_a property_n of_o a_o saint_n &_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n indeed_o &_o truth_n &_o of_o the_o full_a &_o complete_a communion_n thereof_o 1._o joh._n 2.19_o your_o second_o objection_n &_o reason_n be_v that_o by_o this_o my_o definition_n of_o saint_n or_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n so_o determine_v i_o exclude_v the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o hezechiah_n david_n ichosaphat_n moses_n etc._n etc._n who_o commit_v &_o suffer_v know_v sin_n yea_o &_o the_o corinthian_n 2._o cor._n 12.21_o also_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n revel_v 2_o 20.21_o who_o do_v not_o amend_v &_o yet_o be_v saint_n &_o true_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n i_o answer_v first_o to_o that_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n object_v by_o you_o i_o say_v your_o
diocese_n nay_o say_v the_o presbyterian_o of_o england_n out_o of_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v &_o lose_v be_v give_v to_o the_o edership_n &_o the_o poeple_n they_o be_v bind_v or_o lose_v by_o the_o presbytery_n for_o by_o the_o church_n they_o understand_v the_o presbytery_n nay_o say_v we_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v &_o lose_v be_v give_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n even_o to_o two_o or_o three_o faithful_a people_n join_v together_o in_o covenant_n &_o this_o we_o prove_v evident_o in_o this_o manner_n unto_o who_o the_o covenant_n be_v give_v unto_o they_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v &_o lose_v be_v give_v the_o covenant_n be_v give_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o two_o or_o three_o faithful_a one_o for_o god_n be_v their_o god_n &_o they_o be_v his_o people_n therefore_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v &_o lose_v be_v give_v to_o they_o again_o unto_o who_o christ_n be_v give_v for_o king_n unto_o they_o the_o power_n of_o christ_n the_o king_n be_v give_v as_o be_v his_o deputy_n &_o lieutenant_n but_o christ_n be_v give_v for_o king_n unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n even_o to_o two_o or_o three_o faithful_a people_n who_o be_v his_o kingdom_n &_o house_n &_o city_n therefore_o unto_o they_o be_v give_v his_o power_n that_o be_v his_o power_n to_o bind_v &_o lose_v final_o unto_o who_o the_o covenant_n &_o christ_n be_v give_v unto_o they_o all_o the_o promise_n be_v give_v for_o all_o the_o promise_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o covenant_n &_o in_o christ_n as_o these_o place_n prove_v 2._o cor._n 1.20_o psal_n 133.3_o act._n 2.39_o gal._n 3.14.15.16_o &_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v &_o lose_v be_v one_o of_o the_o promise_n &_o be_v a_o part_n &_o parcel_n of_o the_o covenant_n mat._n 16.19_o joh._n 20.23_o mat._n 18_o 15-20_a but_o the_o covenant_n &_o christ_n &_o all_o the_o promise_n be_v give_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n even_o to_o two_o or_o three_o faithful_a one_o therefore_o the_o power_n 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