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A06347 An excellent and plaine discourse of the church, whereby the godlie may knowe and discerne the true Church, from the Romish Church, and all other false and counterfet churches, as well for matters of doctrine, as discipline, &c. Written in Frenche by M. Bartrand de Loque, a godlie minister of Dolphenine. And faithfully translated into English, by M.T.W. Seene and allowed; Traité de l'eglise. English Loque, Bertrand de.; T. W. (Thomas Wilcox), 1549?-1608. 1582 (1582) STC 16813; ESTC S103377 172,896 422

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the_o romish_a church_n we_o break_v not_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n because_o that_o in_o the_o romish_a church_n there_o be_v no_o true_a unity_n for_o first_o of_o all_o it_o be_v not_o at_o unity_n in_o itself_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o several_a sect_n and_o rule_n which_o be_v among_o they_o one_o say_v i_o be_o of_o the_o order_n of_o s._n augustine_n a_o other_o i_o be_o of_o saint_n dominick_n his_o order_n a_o other_o i_o be_o of_o s._n francis_n a_o other_o i_o be_o a_o jesuite_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o s._n paul_n write_v to_o the_o corinthian_n 1.11.12.13_o 1._o cor._n 1.11.12.13_o in_o the_o first_o chapter_n second_o that_o church_n be_v not_o unite_v with_o god_n which_o union_n or_o unity_n be_v necessary_o join_v with_o the_o former_a 1.3_o 1._o joh._n 1.3_o as_o saint_n john_n declare_v it_o and_o that_o this_o be_v true_a that_o it_o have_v not_o any_o union_n or_o fellowship_n with_o god_n it_o be_v sufficient_o plain_a by_o this_o only_a reason_n 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church_n cleave_v to_o her_o only_a head_n and_o husband_n jesus_n christ_n she_o believe_v his_o word_n and_o follow_v he_o she_o be_v faithful_a to_o he_o without_o commit_v adultery_n with_o idol_n which_o the_o romishe_a church_n do_v not_o which_o thing_n we_o have_v a_o little_a while_n ago_o show_v second_o as_o concern_v that_o that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v approve_v the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n in_o his_o time_n we_o say_v in_o the_o first_o place_n that_o there_o be_v very_o great_a difference_n between_o the_o estate_n of_o that_o church_n then_o as_o it_o be_v and_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o romishe_a church_n such_o a_o one_o as_o we_o behold_v it_o at_o this_o day_n for_o the_o abuse_n and_o corruption_n as_o well_o of_o doctrine_n as_o of_o sacrament_n &_o the_o manifest_a idolatry_n which_o bear_v sway_n at_o this_o present_a in_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v not_o at_o that_o time_n in_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n which_o be_v easy_a to_o prove_v because_o 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christ_n will_v not_o despise_v this_o place_n but_o we_o know_v that_o whatsoever_o corruption_n be_v there_o no_o faithful_a man_n be_v enforce_v to_o cleave_v or_o stick_v to_o any_o superstitious_a manner_n or_o custom_n which_o be_v not_o practise_v at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o as_o all_o there_o be_v full_a of_o superstition_n and_o manifest_a idolatry_n so_o they_o will_v constrain_v and_o enforce_v the_o faithful_a by_o fire_n and_o sword_n to_o consent_v thereto_o and_o to_o pollute_v and_o defile_v themselves_o therewith_o against_o their_o own_o conscience_n and_o god_n express_v forbid_v last_o to_o what_o point_n do_v jesus_n christ_n bring_v the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n when_o the_o high_a priest_n scribe_n and_o pharisee_n show_v themselves_o great_a mad_a man_n not_o do_v their_o duty_n towards_o it_o do_v he_o not_o take_v his_o vineyard_n from_o these_o husbandman_n who_o do_v not_o give_v he_o the_o fruit_n which_o belong_v unto_o he_o 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and_o command_v to_o us._n next_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o sabaoth_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o figure_n be_v temporal_a and_o endure_v but_o a_o season_n and_o therefore_o it_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o end_n as_o the_o other_o ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n have_v wherefore_o the_o figure_n be_v take_v away_o and_o change_v not_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n proper_o or_o as_o you_o will_v say_v of_o it_o own_o authority_n but_o by_o the_o truth_n itself_o which_o declare_v and_o show_v itself_o in_o jesus_n christ_n whereupon_o also_o the_o apostle_n say_v 16.17_o col._n 2._o 16.17_o let_v no_o man_n therefore_o condemn_v you_o in_o meat_n and_o drink_n or_o in_o respect_n of_o a_o holy_a day_n or_o of_o the_o new_a moon_n or_o of_o the_o sabaoth_n day_n which_o be_v but_o a_o shadow_n of_o thing_n to_o come_v the_o sixth_o reason_n the_o apostle_n decree_v in_o the_o first_o council_n which_o they_o hold_v in_o jerusalem_n 29._o act._n 15._o 29._o that_o the_o 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have_v no_o life_n in_o you_o and_o this_o custom_n be_v in_o use_n in_o the_o time_n of_o pope_n innocent_a saint_n cyprian_n and_o saint_n augustine_n as_o it_o appear_v by_o their_o write_n but_o now_o this_o be_v not_o any_o more_o use_v for_o child_n which_o can_v not_o prove_v and_o examine_v themselves_o be_v not_o at_o this_o day_n receive_v to_o the_o partake_n of_o the_o sacrament_n wherefore_o the_o church_n in_o old_a time_n have_v err_v or_o else_o it_o err_v now_o but_o if_o we_o will_v answer_v that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n and_o authority_n to_o change_v such_o custom_n and_o manner_n i_o reply_v to_o the_o contrary_a for_o now_o the_o question_n be_v not_o here_o of_o a_o thing_n indifferent_a in_o the_o use_n but_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v always_o constant_a and_o not_o subject_a to_o any_o change_n as_o to_o say_v that_o to_o day_n it_o have_v one_o sense_n and_o understanding_n &_o to_o morrow_n another_o wherefore_o if_o the_o place_n of_o s._n john_n command_v to_o give_v the_o supper_n to_o little_a infant_n of_o necessity_n as_o the_o forename_a ancient_a father_n have_v understand_v and_o expound_v the_o same_o the_o church_n have_v ●one_n well_o in_o time_n heretofore_o to_o follow_v that_o commandment_n and_o at_o this_o time_n it_o err_v in_o not_o follow_v it_o any_o long_o or_o else_o if_o the_o say_a place_n be_v not_o to_o be_v refer_v proper_o unto_o the_o holy_a supper_n neither_o command_v to_o distribute_v and_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o infant_n but_o it_o be_v of_o necessity_n require_v that_o he_o to_o who_o we_o must_v administer_v the_o say_a sacrament_n have_v knowledge_n to_o try_v and_o examine_v himself_o according_a to_o saint_n paul_n doctrine_n 1.2_o 1._o cor._n 1.2_o as_o indeed_o this_o be_v the_o pure_a and_o only_a truth_n it_o follow_v then_o that_o the_o church_n have_v in_o former_a time_n err_v to_o admit_v little_a infant_n to_o the_o holy_a supper_n and_o that_o at_o this_o day_n it_o do_v well_o to_o practice_v the_o contrary_n the_o three_o reason_n if_o the_o church_n can_v not_o err_v saint_n paul_n have_v without_o cause_n fear_v 11.28_o 1._o cor._n 11.28_o lest_o the_o corinthian_n who_o he_o call_v a_o church_n shall_v through_o the_o subtlety_n of_o the_o serpent_n be_v corrupt_v 11.3_o 2._o cor._n 11.3_o and_o turn_v away_o from_o the_o simplicity_n that_o be_v in_o christ_n and_o indeed_o in_o vain_a shall_v he_o have_v call_v the_o assembly_n of_o the_o corinthian_n and_o galathian_o 1.2_o gala._n 1.2_o church_n which_o yet_o notwithstanding_o err_v in_o doctrine_n in_o faith_n in_o manner_n and_o in_o life_n but_o saint_n paul_n do_v nothing_o of_o all_o this_o without_o cause_n or_o in_o vain_a otherwise_o saint_n paul_n himself_o shall_v have_v be_v deceive_v wherefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n may_v err_v the_o four_o reason_n those_o that_o can_v err_v have_v no_o need_n of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n but_o the_o church_n have_v need_n of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n for_o jesus_n christ_n give_v it_o a_o form_n of_o prayer_n have_v command_v it_o to_o demand_v and_o ask_v of_o god_n 6.12_o mat._n 6.12_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n wherefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n may_v err_v the_o five_o reason_n the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o old_a time_n in_o jerusalem_n be_v oftentimes_o reprove_v of_o error_n by_o the_o prophet_n which_o thing_n declare_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o this_o world_n without_o will_n and_o deed_n to_o err_v but_o to_o the_o end_n i_o may_v not_o be_v overlong_o in_o recite_v by_o piecemeal_o and_o as_o it_o be_v one_o by_o one_o all_o the_o sentence_n which_o make_v mention_v of_o the_o fall_v of_o the_o church_n let_v man_n read_v that_o which_o be_v write_v thereof_o in_o these_o place_n touch_v the_o corruption_n of_o the_o church_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o verse_n 21._o to_o the_o 24._o verse_n isaiah_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 3._o for_o 8.9_o isaiah_n 5.13_o isaiah_n 30._o verse_n 9_o to_o the_o 13._o ver_fw-la isaiah_n 59_o for_o 2._o unto_o the_o 17._o ver_fw-la isai_n 64._o ver_fw-la 6.7_o jere._n 2_o ver_fw-la 5._o jeremiah_n jeremiah_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chap._n jere._n 3._o ver_fw-la 2.3.20_o jere._n 4._o ver_fw-la 22._o jeremiah_n 5._o for_o 1._o unto_o the_o 15._o ver_fw-la and_o afterward_o from_o the_o 19_o ver_fw-la to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n jere._n 6._o ver_fw-la 7._o unto_o the_o 11._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 8._o for_o 4._o unto_o the_o 11._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 9_o for_o 3._o unto_o the_o 17._o ver_fw-la jeremiah_n 13._o verse_n 10._o unto_o the_o 15._o verse_n jeremiah_n 22._o even_o unto_o the_o end_n jeremiah_n 16._o ver_fw-la 11.12_o jeremiah_n 18_o ver_fw-la 13._o unto_o the_o 18._o ver_fw-la ezechiel_n 5._o for_o 6._o unto_o the_o 12._o ezechiel_n ezechiel_n ver_fw-la ezechiel_n 22._o for_o 3._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n ezechiel_n 33._o ver_fw-la 24._o unto_o the_o 30._o deutro_n deutro_n ver_fw-la deuteronomie_n 32._o for_o 5.6.32.33_o touch_v the_o ingratitude_n and_o unthankfulness_n of_o the_o church_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o for_o 2.5_o isaiah_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 5.47_o isaiah_n 43._o ver_fw-la 21._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n isaiah_n 17._o for_o 10.11_o hosea_n jeremiah_n ezechiel_n zachariah_n deuteron_n hosea_n isaiah_n 63._o for_o 9.10_o jerem._n 2._o for_o 6.9.21.22_o jeremiah_n 12._o for_o ●_o ezechiel_n 16._o for_o 15._o unto_o the_o 24._o ver_fw-la zachariah_n 11._o for_o 8._o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n deuteronomie_n 32._o for_o 15.18.23_o hosea_n 12._o for_o 1.9_o hosea_n 13._o for_o 6._o malachi_n 1._o ver_fw-la 2.8_o touch_v the_o obstinacy_n and_o rebellion_n of_o the_o church_n isaiah_n isaiah_n see_v isaiah_n 1._o for_o 5._o unto_o the_o 7._o ver_fw-la isaiah_n ●_o ver_fw-la
four_o book_n and_o theodorus_n beza_n his_o confession_n shall_v find_v there_o all_o that_o which_o may_v be_v say_v touch_v this_o point_n or_o matter_n if_o so_o be_v it_o that_o he_o will_v content_v himself_o with_o reason_n wherefore_o then_o we_o have_v in_o this_o matter_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n for_o this_o present_a time_n to_o consider_v of_o four_o principal_a head_n or_o point_n the_o first_o be_v church_n discipline_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n that_o discipline_n be_v most_o requisite_a &_o most_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n if_o we_o will_v not_o have_v all_o thing_n mingle_v and_o disorder_v therein_o yea_o full_a of_o confusion_n for_o even_o as_o there_o be_v no_o city_n nor_o town_n nor_o house_n which_o can_v be_v without_o discipline_n or_o policy_n or_o some_o order_n for_o the_o government_n thereof_o so_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o city_n &_o house_n of_o god_n can_v at_o any_o hand_n be_v without_o his_o policy_n and_o spiritual_a government_n and_o therefore_o saint_n cyprian_n have_v sometime_o call_v the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n virgin_n cyprian_n de_fw-fr tract_n virgin_n the_o keeper_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o mistress_n of_o virtue_n for_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v lawful_a for_o every_o one_o to_o do_v what_o they_o will_v without_o be_v hold_v back_o by_o some_o bridle_n what_o confusion_n and_o disorder_n shall_v we_o see_v in_o the_o church_n the_o same_o doctor_n compare_v also_o the_o discipline_n to_o the_o rudder_n or_o helm_n of_o a_o ship_n 7._o cypri_n lib._n 2_o epist_n 7._o thereby_o to_o declare_v not_o only_o how_o profitable_a the_o same_o be_v for_o we_o but_o also_o how_o necessary_a and_o needful_a for_o see_v that_o the_o church_n be_v in_o this_o world_n as_o a_o ship_n upon_o the_o sea_n that_o be_v to_o say_v subject_a to_o the_o billow_n wave_n and_o tempest_n of_o tyrant_n and_o persecutor_n yet_o to_o wind_n and_o whirlwind_n of_o false_a doctrine_n how_o can_v it_o be_v able_a to_o subsist_v and_o stand_v if_o together_o with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o have_v not_o for_o the_o order_n and_o guide_v thereof_o her_o discipline_n to_o be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o rampart_n ground_n work_n foundation_n and_o stay_v wherefore_o those_o which_o either_o disallow_v or_o despise_v this_o remedy_n which_o serve_v to_o preserve_v the_o church_n from_o dissipation_n or_o scatter_v abroad_o to_o keep_v man_n in_o the_o obedience_n of_o god_n and_o to_o hold_v every_o one_o in_o his_o order_n and_o calling_n labour_n and_o endeavour_v no_o other_o thing_n whatsoever_o they_o will_v pretend_v than_o to_o overthrow_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o bring_v into_o the_o same_o all_o beastly_a excess_n and_o barbarous_a disorder_n and_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v in_o the_o number_n of_o they_o of_o who_o be_v speak_v in_o the_o 50._o psalm_n who_o give_v themselves_o to_o all_o iniquity_n 17._o psalm_n 50.16_o 17._o and_o hate_v correction_n and_o discipline_n or_o to_o be_v reform_v be_v reprove_v for_o this_o that_o they_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o speak_v of_o and_o rehearse_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n &_o to_o take_v his_o covenant_n &_o word_n in_o their_o mouth_n the_o second_o head_n or_o point_n be_v office_n the_o discipline_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o set_v a_o foot_n into_o the_o magistrate_n office_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a or_o church_n discipline_n incroch_v not_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o upon_o the_o magistrate_n charge_v and_o office_n for_o first_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o civil_a jurisdiction_n or_o government_n differ_v great_o one_o of_o they_o from_o a_o other_o because_o that_o the_o one_o be_v spiritual_a and_o reach_v to_o the_o inward_a man_n and_o the_o other_o be_v bodily_a and_o outward_a therefore_o saint_n paul_n say_v 10.4_o 2._o cor._n 10.4_o the_o weapon_n of_o our_o warfare_n be_v not_o carnal_a but_o mighty_a through_o god_n to_o cast_v down_o hold_v the_o church_n than_o have_v not_o prison_n or_o sergeant_n or_o sword_n thereby_o bodily_a to_o punish_v evil_a doer_n neither_o use_v it_o force_n of_o hand_n confiscation_n or_o loss_n of_o good_n or_o amercement_n to_o punish_v they_o in_o their_o good_n and_o riches_n but_o only_o draw_v out_o and_o occupi_v the_o spiritual_a sword_n of_o god_n word_n to_o correct_v man_n 6.17_o ephe._n 6.17_o and_o to_o bring_v they_o to_o amendment_n as_o the_o magistrate_n draw_v out_o and_o use_v his_o material_a sword_n to_o punish_v they_o either_o in_o their_o good_n or_o in_o their_o body_n and_o so_o both_o of_o they_o do_v their_o duty_n the_o one_o of_o they_o not_o bring_v any_o prejudice_n or_o hurt_v to_o the_o other_o but_o contrariwise_o very_o well_o aid_v themselves_o between_o themselves_o and_o help_v one_o another_o and_o be_v most_o necessary_a and_o needful_a in_o their_o several_a charge_n and_o office_n the_o one_o not_o be_v able_a to_o do_v that_o which_o the_o other_o do_v one_o example_n to_o make_v the_o matter_n plain_a if_o some_o one_o have_v commit_v whoredom_n and_o so_o by_o that_o mean_n and_o fault_n the_o civil_a law_n shall_v be_v transgress_v and_o break_v and_o the_o church_n also_o offend_v now_o in_o reform_a court_n and_o place_n of_o law_n such_o a_o one_o shall_v be_v punish_v either_o by_o imprisonment_n or_o by_o whip_v or_o by_o some_o other_o punishment_n and_o so_o the_o offender_n shall_v have_v satisfy_v the_o magistrate_n law_n but_o yet_o the_o offence_n shall_v not_o be_v repair_v or_o reform_v in_o the_o church_n for_o it_o may_v be_v that_o such_o a_o evil_a doer_n will_v in_o steed_n of_o give_v or_o show_v some_o sign_n of_o repentance_n murmur_n be_v angry_a and_o despiteful_o deal_v with_o the_o church_n in_o such_o a_o case_n the_o church_n before_o that_o it_o receive_v he_o to_o the_o holy_a supper_n shall_v require_v of_o he_o a_o public_a testimony_n and_o open_a token_n of_o his_o repentance_n and_o by_o consequent_a as_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v have_v his_o justice_n satisfy_v and_o answer_v so_o shall_v the_o church_n have_v her_o discipline_n satisfy_v and_o answer_v in_o sum_n the_o magistrate_n in_o the_o exercise_v and_o execute_v of_o his_o office_n respect_v man_n good_n &_o their_o body_n but_o the_o church_n in_o the_o exercise_n and_o execution_n of_o her_o discipline_n regard_v simple_o and_o only_o the_o soul_n and_o conscience_n of_o man_n second_o so_o far_o off_o be_v it_o that_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n derogate_v or_o take_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o away_o from_o the_o magistrate_n that_o contrariwise_o she_o maintain_v the_o obedience_n that_o be_v due_a unto_o he_o for_o if_o she_o tend_v to_o no_o other_o end_n or_o shoot_v at_o no_o other_o mark_n but_o to_o cause_v we_o to_o practice_v that_o which_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o so_o it_o be_v that_o god_n word_n teach_v we_o to_o submit_v ourselves_o &_o to_o yield_v ourselves_o subject_a 3.1_o rom._n 13._o 1._o &_o tit._n 3.1_o to_o our_o magistrate_n and_o that_o not_o for_o fear_v of_o wrath_n only_o but_o also_o for_o conscience_n sake_n who_o see_v not_o this_o that_o she_o be_v establish_v and_o set_v up_o by_o god_n to_o maintain_v the_o magistrate_n in_o his_o authority_n &_o to_o cause_v that_o obedience_n to_o be_v render_v and_o yield_v to_o he_o which_o belong_v unto_o he_o and_o also_o this_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o the_o church_n have_v not_o any_o particular_a member_n or_o person_n in_o it_o which_o she_o do_v not_o most_o willing_o make_v subject_a to_o the_o magistrate_n follow_v therein_o that_o which_o s._n paul_n say_v let_v every_o soul_n that_o be_v to_o say_v 13.1_o rom._n 13.1_o every_o person_n or_o man_n be_v subject_a unto_o the_o high_a power_n touch_v which_o the_o priest_n friar_n &_o monk_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n and_o in_o sum_n all_o those_o of_o the_o pope_n clergy_n shall_v here_o very_o well_o take_v themselves_o by_o the_o nose_n that_o if_o it_o may_v be_v they_o may_v be_v ashamed_a and_o so_o come_v to_o repentance_n for_o whereas_o they_o reprove_v and_o accuse_v we_o to_o be_v rebel_n to_o our_o superior_n i_o will_v wish_v they_o to_o look_v to_o themselves_o and_o to_o mark_v how_o far_o they_o show_v themselves_o obedient_a and_o by_o what_o title_n and_o right_a they_o can_v boast_v themselves_o to_o be_v exempt_v from_o all_o such_o subjection_n it_o may_v be_v that_o they_o will_v not_o believe_v saint_n paul_n word_n without_o the_o interpretation_n of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n let_v they_o then_o well_o look_v to_o and_o mark_v that_o which_o chrysostome_n have_v write_v upon_o this_o place_n who_o word_n be_v very_o clear_a and_o plain_a roman_n chrysost_n in_o 13._o
cap._n ad_fw-la roman_n when_o the_o apostle_n speak_v thus_o say_v chrysostome_n let_v every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n he_o declare_v that_o this_o commandment_n be_v direct_v to_o all_o yea_o to_o priest_n and_o monk_n and_o not_o only_o to_o they_o which_o be_v busy_v and_o occupy_v about_o the_o affair_n of_o this_o present_a life_n wherefore_o be_v it_o that_o thou_o be_v a_o apostle_n or_o a_o evangelist_n or_o a_o prophet_n or_o any_o other_o thou_o ought_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o magistrate_n for_o this_o subjection_n do_v not_o hinder_v disannul_v or_o take_v away_o godliness_n these_o be_v this_o holy_a doctor_n own_o word_n who_o if_o he_o have_v live_v at_o this_o day_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o yourselves_o to_o think_v of_o how_o sharp_o and_o earnest_o will_v he_o set_v up_o himself_o etc._n causa_fw-la 15._o quaest_n 6._o cap._n aelius_n romanus_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o romish_a priest_n &_o namely_o against_o he_o who_o do_v not_o only_o not_o subject_a or_o submit_v himself_o to_o king_n but_o also_o make_v king_n subject_a to_o he_o and_o translate_v to_o his_o own_o proper_a use_n kingdom_n &_o empire_n and_o be_v not_o in_o the_o mean_a while_n ashamed_a to_o say_v that_o he_o be_v jesus_n christ_n vicar_n and_o the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o indeed_o jesus_n christ_n subject_v himself_o to_o magistrate_n 17.27_o mat._n 17.27_o yea_o even_o to_o pay_v they_o tribute_n and_o have_v say_v unto_o his_o apostle_n 22.25_o luke_n 22.25_o that_o the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n bear_v rule_v etc._n etc._n but_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o amongst_o you_o 22.5_o the_o discipline_n ought_v to_o be_v exercise_v by_o the_o consistory_n mat._n 10.17_o act._n 22.5_o the_o third_o head_n or_o point_n be_v that_o for_o the_o exercise_v and_o execute_v of_o the_o discipline_n there_o must_v be_v in_o the_o church_n a_o consistory_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o assembly_n or_o a_o council_n compact_v &_o 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