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A44841	The Quakers house built upon the rock Christ Wherein neither their doctrines, principles, nor practices can be confounded, not disproved; being neither damnable, nor pernitious. As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his book called, The Quakers house built upon the sand: or, a discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious doctrins, in his answer to G.W. which to prove, he lays down seven grounds of delusion, and five arguments of damnable doctrine. But in this answer his seven grounds is proved false in themselves, ...; and his five arguments is proved to be his own false positions, ... as first, he lays down false positions, and then proves them false; and then boasts, as if he had proved our doctrines or principles false: the truth of which is herein clearly made manifest, and wherein he falsly accuseth us, he is justly guilty himselfe. Also the ten fundamentall principles or doctrines of the hireling priest-hood, ... By a servant to the Church of Christ, ... Richard Hubberthorne. ...	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.	1659 (1659)	Wing H3227A; ESTC R221606	34,515	47

〈◊〉 and such like words and yet saith that it was never 〈◊〉 thy desires to passe sentence upon us but thy Tongue has proved that the thought of thy heart hath deceived thee as it is made manifest And as to thy words That it hath been upon thy thought many years that the Quakers living and dying in 〈…〉 e Principles cannot be saved G. W. A●s is That it ap 〈…〉 rs then that thou hast spoken from thy thoughts and not from the Lord Then thou replyes That many pretious truths hath been on the thoughts of the Saints and instances David 1 Chr. ●9 18. and 2 Cor. 9. 5. whereas David desired that the Mercies and Deliverances Judgements Testimonies and Sta●●res might be kept upon the thoughts of his Heart for ever and this was his Prayer And Paul thought it necessary to exhort the Brothren But what is these proofes to thee which hath had ●al●e a 〈…〉 ions upon thy thought severall years and now speaks them forth so that his words are true to the● that it appears thou speaks from thy thoughts and not from the Lord But he doth not say That never any truth was in the Saints thoughts as thou would make people beleeve and many may witnesse to the truth of his words that it appears thou speaks not from the Lord but from thy thoughts and imaginations And it is manifest further that thou knows not thy own thoughts nor the councell of thy own heart for if thou did thou would not have said that it hath been so many years in thy thoughts and now speak it forth And yet say It was not in thy desire to passe sentence upon us But we see that the deepest of thy thoughts and thy knowledge is covered with darknesse And as for thy saying That God said that he would call for damnation at the Watch-mans hand Ezek. 33. 6 this is a charging of God foolishly for he never said it neither called for it and all thy meanings to it hath but led thee into snares and pits which thou cannot get out of as all that walk in the light sees Againe in thy 13. and 14. pages Thou speaks against the light which Christ hath enlightned every man withall that comes into the world and calls it the reliques of the light of the first Creation and no other but the light of a naturall conscience and that a blurred one too Oh! what scornfull and despightfull words is here against Christ and his light as reliques of the old creation naturall and blurred Is not these names more proper to be given to darknesse then to light Where didst thou learne those names not in the Scripture nor from any Minister of Christ How is the Scripture thy Rule which thou hast so long prated upon For here it is manifest to all that are not wilfully blind that thou hast lost the forme of sound words and ar● devising evill names to give to the light whereby to keep people in their sins from Christ But I pray God to convince thee by the light of his Sonne of all the hard speeches that thou ungodly sinner hast spoken against him Pr. Againe thou sayest for that saying that Christ is a light 〈◊〉 enlighten the Gentiles Isay 49. 6. Acts 13. 47. it is mean● of a new Gospel light given forth in conversi●● Page 13. Ans. Where had thou this expression Is there a New and an Old Gospel and to either of them a severall light The Apostle Preached that Christ which did enlighten the Gentiles Acts 13. 47. and I know no other Gospel but that which he Preached but if any Preach another either New or Old let him be accursed And againe in the same 13. page thou sayst that beleeving in a ●r●ated light that 's blasphemy And yet in the same page saith that till Christ creat● a second Covenant-light the light of Faith upon the account of the Covenant of Grace they cannot follow Christ Here is manifest confusion and blindnesse heaped up together manifest to all men Is the second Covenant-light the light of Faith a created light Is not Christ the second Covenant And is his light created as thou hast affirmed And is it blasphemy to beleeve in a created light then it is blasphemy to beleeve in the light of Christ Now this of thin● will appear and be manifest unto all that have any understanding to be damnable Doctrine and for thee it is impossible to be saved living and dying in it so that which thou hast prepared for another Esther 5. 14. chap. 〈◊〉 10. comes upon thy selfe Againe as to the Scripture Iohn 12. 46. where Christ saith I am come a light into the World c. thou sayes that cannot be meant a created light for then a man were to follow his own light c. and thy words following saith Christ must create a second Covenant-light the light of Faith and here thou hast so ensuared thy selfe in the pi● of ignorance and darknesse that untill Gods righteous judgements come upon thee and 〈◊〉 that which hath spoken it thou will never be free 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for great is thy s●ares and bonds of iniquity and they are dayly made stronger by thy devising of cor 〈…〉 pt and evill words to speake against the light but this 〈◊〉 which thou hast so d●spightfully spoke● against must thou love and obey before ever thou come out of the snares of Satan and before thou profit the people by thy Teaching and these things are now layd plain before thee that thou mayest see thy owne wayes and words and that thou art guilty of that thy selfe whereof thou hast accused another and this is written that thou ma 〈…〉 ●om● to repentance and the acknowledgement of the Truth that thou mayest be saved Againe thou hast charged a false thing against G. W. which he never spoke nor wrote which is this That doing justice or our fulfilling of the Law is 〈◊〉 justification and then call● 〈◊〉 a damnable opinion If it be a damnable opinion it is thy own not his For his words are these For it is the d●ers of the Law for justice that God justifies pag. 〈◊〉 according to Rom 2. 13 but in this Sam. Hemmond th●n hast shamed thy selfe for there is many in Newcastle that had not thought that thou had been so impudently wicked as wilfully and knowingly for thy own wicked ends to charge those words upon others which they never spoke but i● thy own and then call it a damnable Principle But the Lord hath made thee manifest that thou may no more deceive the Nations Pr. Againe thou saith That pure darkenesse 〈◊〉 manage justice Ans. Thou sure means grosse darknesse without any mig 〈…〉 of light And thou may from such Doctrines as these 〈◊〉 of a New Gospel as thou said before and new expressions for there is no such words mentioned in the Scriptures of the Prophets and Apostles but to prove this thy expression of pure darkenesse to manage justice thou saith

THE QUAKERS HOUSE Built upon the Rock CHRIST Wherein neither their Doctrines Principles nor Practises can be confounded nor disproved being neither damnable nor pernitious As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his Book called The Quakers House Built upon the Sand. Or a Discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious Doctrins in his Answer to G. W. which to prove he lays down seven Grounds of Delusion and five Arguments of Damnable Doctrine But in this Answer his seven Grounds is proved false in themselves if they were as they are not true against us And his five Arguments is proved to be his own false Positions not according to our Doctrine and Principles As first he lays down false Positions and then proves them false and then boasts as if he had proved our Doctrines or Principles false The truth of which is herein clearly made manifest and wherein he falsly accuseth us he is justly guilty himselfe Also the ten Fundamentall Principles or Doctrines of the Hireling Priest-hood here Discovered This is given forth that all those that have wilfully and from pride and presumpt on of spirit opposed the living truth and the breaking-forth of light from the pure everlasting Fountain of life may put their mouthes in the dust and keep silence if so be for them there may be hope For the lying Tongue will God confound but the lipp of Truth will he establish for ever By a Servant to the Church of Christ which is built of tryed and living stones Richard Hubberthorne In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified and shall glory Isay 45. 25. over all the false Prophets which haue deceived the nations among whom is found the blood of the Saints The Quakers House Built upon the Rocke CHRIST c. THe holy Seed which the living Father doth manifest his Life Spirit and Power unto in all Ages hath been and is the reproach of the World and of all them that be strangers to the life of God and to Christs life manifest in the mortall bodies And though this seed be that which the Father hath blessed and hath received the truth and by the truth is set free according to Christs words John 8. 31. yet in the world from slanderous Tongues and false accusations we expect not to be free but to beare his reproaches and in the patience and power of the Lambe to overcome them for God will bring forth our Righteousnesse Truth and Innocency to shine as the light before all people whereby all hard speeches and false reproaches will be wiped away out of the Nations And that shall fulfill and accomplish that which in words we declare and in that are we known to God and shall be known to the world And now seeing that it hath pleased the Father to reveale his Sonne in us and to open the hidden treasures of his life and hath given us of his holy Spirit and the Tongue of the Learned we shall not cease to improve his gift in speaking what we know and testifie what we have seen both by holding forth the truth in the World and by testifying against that in the World which is contrary to it For now hath the living God opened the Fountain of Life abundantly and is drying up the Fountain of words where the life is wanting And the Lord by his eternall Spirit is giving an understanding to many whereby they are able to discern of things that differ and to know every Tree by its Fruit and to try all things by that measure of his light and holy spirit which he hath given them And to that which is of God in all people doe I commit my Testimony to be read and understood Now this from the meek spirit of Christ in Answer to that which from the pride presumption and arrogancy of Hammonds spirit is come forth against the living truth it selfe and the servants of it but every Tongue that riseth up in judgement against us will God confound First S. H. saith That the Quakers House is built upon the Sand c. Answer How is it then that the Sea hath so long roared and listed up its Waves and the Winds hath blown and it is not yet falne Have not you of all Professions joyned together and have not your Voyces been as the Voyce of many Waters against us And have you not been as blustring Winds which if we had regarded we should not have sowne the seed of the Kingdom As the Prophet hath said He that regards the Winde shall not sow Eccl. 11. 4. So if we had regarded your noyses uproars swelling words of Vanity lyes acensations or persecutions we had not been obedient to the Lord nor done his worke But the Lord hath made our persecutors to stumble according to his promise and his enemies are even weary with smiting of his children Ier. 9. 5. And he is giving his power and dominion to his anoynted ones of the whole Earth And hath ordained his arrowes against the persecutors Psal. 7. 13. And in the Lord shall all the Seed of Israel be justified and shall glory Isay 45. 25. in this the day of the Lords power when the life of the holy Child Jesus is appearing in the dark places of the Earth who is the Rock of Ages and the Foundation of many Generations upon which we are built and stand a witnesse against all the unrighteousnesse of men the proofe of which is not because we say so but the appearing and breaking forth of his life and the fruits of his holy spirit shall make it manifest And to all these that desire the knowledge of Gods wayes it will be known perfectly that God is amongst us and that his spirit power and presence is with us Again Sam. Hammond saith That his Book is a discovery of the pernitious and damnable Doctrines of the Quakers And for securing the Saints c. Answer A refuge of lyes will not secure the saints as I shall prove his Book to be neither can he which is in the Doctrine which is pernitious and damnable discover them in others nor to others as I shall prove in that which followeth in reply to his Book And first to begin with his Method which is as he saith First to shew the grounds of the Quakers Delusions Secondly to demonstrate the impossibility of salvation in and by their Principles Thirdly to answer George Whitheads cavills in his Pamphlet as S. H. falsely calls it First cause of Delusion S. H. A spirit of giddinesse hanging loose to the truth and the love of it c. and to prove it he saith That there is three sorts of people that turne Quakers The first are unlearned and unstable and these are they which have been ancient Professors The second sort young men and women which have been under convictions and awakenings of the Law and are come to terrors and shakings and brought into a Covenant of Works c. The third sort such who for covetous ends to

save their tythes have rashly closed with them Ans. As for a spirit of giddinesse hanging loose to the truth that thou shalt never find in us for we are staid and established in the Lord and in his truth and shall be faithfull in the truth of God which we have received untill we see the Land cleansed of all Hirelings and Deceivers which make a Prey upon the people for dishonest gaine for from you who pretend to be Teachers of others is prophanesse gone forth into all the Earth and your wayes and Doctrines have corrupted it so that not a pure heart nor an undefiled mind and conscience can be found in your Congregations not one that is unreproveable in the sight of God and Gods witnesse in you all shall seale to the truth of my testimony And as for those three sorts of people which thou saith turn Quakers First ancient Professors these knew as much and practised more of things which were just and righteous then thou dost before they knew the life and power of truth which now they live in and are both learned and established in the things of God And why doth thou accuse them for being unlearned and unstable before they turned to us while they followed thee and such like Here thou proves thy own Doctrine that which doth not learn not establish people and not ours For if they were anciest Professors under that Ministery and not learned nor established consider where the cause was How could they be established where they found neither life nor power of God amongst you But now they have found him of whom Moses and the Prophets did Write that should come and they doe not look for another And now are they both learned and established in the wayes of God And therefore doe not thou upbraid them with what they were before they received the truth in the love of it and obedience to it And as for the young men and women of which thou saith is come to terrous and shakings and convictions then they are come further then ever thou came for they that are sensible of convictions terrours and shakings wrought by the Spirit of God they may be thy Teachers which hath but the words of them and art ignorant of the power by which they were wrought and therefore thou brings forth such words of darknesse as thou hast expressed as that thoso that follow the light of an awakened Conscience and sit downe under that and are under terrours and shakings that these are ●nllod a sleep by Satan Is not this blindnesse and ignorance is this according to the forme of sound words were they nor a sleep before their Consciences were awakened But now when they follow the light which wakens their Consciences which is the light of Christ and when they through the obedience to his light doe the works of righteousnesse is this a ground of delusion or when they are thus led dost thou say they are then lulled a sleep by Satan this is a putting darknesse for light and light for darknesse and in stead of shewing us to be in the ground of delusion thou shews thy own ignorance and blindnesse to all that are able to discerne any thing of truth And for the third sort which thou saith for covetous ends to save their Tythes hath joyned with us In this will all sober people and men of understanding beare witnesse against thee and by the effects even their sufferings thou will be condemned as hundreds of this Nation hath suffered the spoyling of their Goods and Imprisonment for a testimony against you and them which covetous men could not doe as some for the value of five shillings Tythes have goods taken worth five pounds and for three pounds worth of Tythe goods taken worth ten pounds and for Tythes of the value of two shillings taken ten shillings And many I could instance which have had taken from them seven times the value and ten times the value and some forty times the value And then how is this for covetousnesse And others here in this County of Bishopriok the Priests send their men to take peoples Lamb● out of the field and off the Common and their Corne off the field which they have laboured for without any Law or pretence of Law which according to Law might be proceeded against as Sheep-stealers and Corne-stealers which if there be Law to give them Tythes then according to the order of Law they are to receive it and not to take mens goods by violence and thus we suffer the spoyling of our goods with joy which if we for covetousnesse denyed Tythes as Hammond accuseth us we could not suffer men to act so contrary to both Law and Gospel and spoyle our Goods and beare it patiently and many thousands in this Nation can in faithfulnesse beare witnesse against him in this thing that it is not for covetousnesse but in obedience to the Lord and bearing a faithfull witnesse against the Ministery that make merchandize of soules and of their goods also which the Lord is bringing downe by the arme of his power and making their folly manifest unto all men And according to his promise he will bring a shame and a perpetuall reproach upon them which by their iniquity and their heavy burthens have kept in captivity the Seed of God which now by his mighty power he is bringing forth to prayse and glorifie him and to rejoyce over all the false Prophets and Teachers which hath caused them to suffer in the time of darknesse and ignorance The second ground of our delusion as Samuel Hammond saith is this Priest Our not being able to distinguish betwixt the rightsousnesse imputed upon the account of the blood of Christ and the righteousnesse or holinesse wrought in us by the Spirit c. Ans. If this were true this were not a ground of delusion for God will not give any up to a reprobate sense nor condemne them for their not being able to distinguish for then he should condemne them for not doing that which they are nor able to doe Here thou art ignorant of the Scriptures and of the ground of delusion and it being my Duty and Calling to instruct the ignorant and him that is out of the way I shall shew thee the grounds of delusion according as it is written in the Scriptures as Rom. 1. 21. Because that when they know God they glorified him not as God neither were thankefull but became vaine in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkned Ver. 22. Professing themselves to be wise they became fooles as thou hast done And wer 28. And even as they did not like to retaine God in their Knowledge God gave them over to a reprohato minde to doe those things which are not convenient And this was not because they were not able to distinguish but because they did not like to retaine God in their Knowledge And because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God and by

keep people from the light within which gives the Knowledge of the glory of God and from the Word within and the Kingdom within and the grace within in which their hearts should be established Heb. 13. 9. and by grace they were saved Ephes. 2. 5. and that being justified by his Grace we should be made beires according to the hope of eternall life Tit. 3. 7. And the Word of Christ was to dwell in them richly in all Wisedome from which they were to a imonish one another in Psalmes and Hymnes and spirituall Songs singing with grace in their hearts to the Lord Col. 3. 16. and their speech was to be alwayes with grace seasoned with salt that they might know how to answer every man Col. 4. 6. and all these is to be known within And Christs Doctrine to the Pharisees was to bring their minds to within and told them the Kingdom of God was within them Luke 17. 21. and Christ bids them Beleave in the light while they have the light that they may be the children of light John 12. 36. And Jesus said unto them I am the light of the World he that followeth me shall not walke in darknesse but shall have the light of life John 8. 12 and Iohn a man sent from God came for a witnesse to beare witnesse of the light that all men through him might beleeve and saith this was the true light which enlightneth every man which commeth into the world and in this light Christ bid them beleeve in and follow And Paul said that he was sent to opes their eyes and to turne people from the darknesse to the light from the power of Satan unto God that they might receive the remission of their sins and be partakers of the inheritance among them that was sanctified Acts 26. 18. and this was the Gospel which the Apostles Preached and hereby may the ignorant be instructed which hath not read any word in the Scripture of light within of Christ within nor the worke of grace within which I have read of all these to be within and beleeved it Harmonds third Ground of our Delution is this Pr. Their not being able to distinguish betwixt being justified ●coly by Grace which is the favour of God upon the account of shrist satisfaction and the Grace wrought by the spirit in the senls or rather that naturall light which being improved they call Grace as he saith Ans This is like the other proceeding onely from ignorance For God will not give us up to delusions that we may be damned for that which we are not able to doe for God doth ●e puire according to what a man hath and not according to what a man hath not for if we have not power nor ability he will not condemne us for that but for ahusing that power and ability which he hath given us to be obedient unto him in for that he is condemned and because that he doth not retaine God in his Knowledge therefore he is given up to a reprobate sence and to strong delusions And whereas thou saith That we cannot distinguish between the Grace of God which is the favour of God upon the account of Christs satisfaction and the naturall light which being improved thou saith we call grace Ans. Yea We have alwayes distinguished between the justifying Grace and a naturall light for the light of the Sunne and of the Moon and Starrs is narorall and by their light the naturall man sees the Creation and the things in it And we never said that this if improved was the Grace so thou falsly accuseth us And that light which we say is within and which Christ hath enlightened every man withall is not to be distinguished from the favour of God for it is the love and favour of God to man that his free Grace which bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men Tit. 2. 11. and by this Grace and not another are they saved who are saved though thou and others turne this grace into wantennesse and then speaks despightfully against the spirit of it and against its being within For if people be once brought to the grace of God within and the light within then they will see your deceitfull Teachings without but while you ear keep them blinde you may Preach for Hire and Divine for Money and they will love to have it so but so soon as any comes to the grace within and the light within then they see your wayes and Doctrines and receives the testimony of the Lord against you which testimony is now going forth in the mighty power of the Lord and God hath raysed up his Sonne which is the light of the World and his faithfull witnesse in his Children and thousands shall come to the brightnesse of his rising whereby you shall all be discovered who hath laboured to quench his appearance and the breaking forth of his light which will stand over you for ever Hammonds fourth Ground of Delusion is this Pr. Our not distinguishing betwixt the Covenant of Works and the Covenant of Grace and for the proofe of this instances the Perfect Pharisee and because we say That Christ is the end of the Law for righteousnesse c. Aus. Let all people take notice of his proofe those lye● and false accusations which he and Coale Yrideaux Weld and Durant did speak against us five yeares since which was proved false by the Answer to it those he takes as sufficient proofes for his false accusing of us now men of understanding will be ashamed of his Folly if because that he standered and falsly accused us five years agoe and doth so now again Is his first lye made a proofe for his second If he would have proved any thing against us our Doctrine or Principles to be a ground of delusion he should have proved it from our words or writings and not from his own accusations as by the Perfect Pharisee Againe he brings our words because that we have said that Christ is the end of the Law for righteousnesse therefore this proves the ground of our delusion and that we cannot distinguish betwixt the Covenant of Grace and the Covenant of Works Then the Apostle is proved to be in the ground of delusion as well as we for he said the same words Rom. 10 4. and this saith he is the direct Popish Doctrine who say that Christ is the end of the Law for righteousnesse as in the fifth page of his Book but saith he they expresse it of inherent righteousnesse and so calls it because Christ works it in them Answer As to say that we expresse it and call it inherent we have not so exprest it nor called it so But if because Christ works his righteousnesse in us we say the righteousnesse of the Law is fulfilled in us who walke not after the flesh but after the spirit Rom. 8. 4. If we say that Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousnesse this is not Popish

That a Star man enlighten in the night but its the Sunn that makes day Ans. A Starre is not pure darknesse for there is some light and according to the measure of its brightnesse t is pure light so thou must have another proofe then that and 〈◊〉 is more properly called darkenesse when there is not so much as the light of a Starre Another proofe is thou sayst Godly Magistrates have two-lights and so two eyes that is the light of Conscience which is as thou saith pure darkenesse and the light of Faith which I say is pure light Ans. These two Eyes are one contrary to the other For light hath no fellowship with darknesse And how can any Magistrate in this state manage justice one of his Eyes the evill eye must be put out if ever he manage justice well for the one Eye will offend the other And if thine Eye offend thee plucke it out as Christ said it is better to doe justice and enter into the Kingdome with one Eye then having two to be cast into Hest fire And this I am sure that neither Magistrate nor any other can enter into the Kingdome while darknesse is his Eye For if the Eye be evill the whole body is full of darknesse as Christ said Mat. 6. 23. But if any judge for God or doe justice for him his Eye must be single that his whole body may be full of light and fulfill Christs words Mat. 6. 22. But we have learned better Doctrine then to take Hammonds two Eyes for a perfect sight And it was this Eye in him which is grosse darknesse with which he hath Read over our Writings and so could not see to speak our own words again because darknesse had blinded his Eye And so all people may now see what light this man hath to Preach and Print withall or to prove damnable Doctrines by But good is the Word of the Lord which said That their folly should be made manifest unto all men as it now is in measure and will be fulfilled Pr. Againe thy spirit is up against the light and in page 18. thou sayst what ever a man may call the light within him if he call it the life of Christ in him yet if he live upon it as his righteousnesse for justification it is a plaine Covenant of Works Ans. Here thou sets thy selfe against the light and truth it selfe in open and wilfull rebellion but it is good for others who have formerly looked upon thee to be a man indewed with Wisedome and Knowledge of the Scriptures and now see thee so manifestly to declare against what they speake for the Scriptures testifie of Christ and saith that in him is life and the life is the light of men and his life is manifest in the mortall bodies and his life they live upon and eat his flesh and drinke his blood or else they had no life in them and living in his life we are the righteousnesse of God in him and in him are all the seed of Israel justified and shall glory And thou that saith to live upon the life of Christ is but a plaine Covenant of Works that 's blasphemy and error and the Lord hath made thee manifest Pr. Another false Doctrine hath Hammond affirmed That there are thousands in their state of darknesse that cannot follow Christ for want of light pag. 13. Ans. Then for what are they condemned Whether are they condemned because they cannot beleeve or because they doe not beleeve on him whom the Father hath sent And whether are they condemned because they cannot follow Christ or because they doe not follow him Or whether is it for want of light or for want of obedience to the light that men is condemned And is it not because they love the darkenesse rather then light when the light is come into the world Is this the condemnation that the light is not come into the world nor given to men or rather is not this the condemnation that light is come into the World and given unto men that every man in him might beleeve Their loving the darknesse rather then the light when come and given Is not this the cause of condemnation If so then Hammonds Doctrine to thousands is false Againe thou objects against G. Whitheads words because he saith that the light is greater then the conscience which is true Then thou sayst How is it that those Saints in New-England never soe the least breaking forth of it in the Indians and in Old-England hundreds manifest no other light but that of a naturall conscience and not much of that neither Ans. The Indians in New-England doe manifest more of the true light of Christ in their Words and Actions and Righteous Dealings then many of those thou calls saints there and it doth break forth to the sight of these that are among them and these hundreds i●Old-England that doe not manifest much of any light Is there ●●ne because they they doe not manifest it Doth not the true light of Christ enlighten people because they doe not manifest it to others that is thy ignorance of the light For they that manifest to others the true light by their obedience to it they shew that they have received Christ the true light and they that doe not manifest it to others they shew that they reject Christ who is the true light and is disobedient to the light wherewith he hath enlightned them and so by that which ap 〈…〉 it is manifest whether they love or hate obey or 〈◊〉 the light which Christ hath enlightened them with 〈…〉 and so the truth of what we have declared concer 〈…〉 the light will stand for a true testimony to the Lord thro 〈…〉 ●ut all generations Now is the day of Gods power where●● his light is broken forth and ●an understanding is begotten in people whereby they can see when the scorner 〈◊〉 his ignorance Thou challenges to shew Scripture that bids you look to ●●e light within you I have shewed thee many Scriptures 〈◊〉 speaks of the light within and Christ within and it is the light of Christ that thou so much hates and us for his sake 〈◊〉 if we had still continued in darknesse and ignorance 〈◊〉 thee then we should have been loved by thee for the World loves its own but because we walk in the light and bears testimony against the darknesse and works of unrighteousnesse therefore dost thou hate us and speak all manner of evill against us Now whereas in many places of thy Book thy scorne and envy and false accusations of G. W. is ●o manifest I shall let that passe and the truth of his words stand over thee for ever and when thou art manifestly declared to have spoken false things against us which thou canst not prove as that in page 18. A man improving 〈◊〉 naturall conscience is his growing up into perfection Now when thou art found false in that and that we never said so then thou

man the Keeper of the Mute-hall to betray the truth and to breake his promise as the Chiefe Priests ●yred Judas to betray Christ they gave him thirty pieces of silver to betray the just and thou gave this man thirty pence to break his Word and promise which he had made to the servants of the Lord and in love to the truth And thou saith thou gave it him to prevent the Quakers temptings Ans. Oh! foolish man thou makes it worse and worse Is money a means to keep men from temptation Didst thou not rather with the thirty pence tempt him to be unfathfull to the Lord and to break his promise And as without money Judas would hardly have been tempted to have betrayed Christ neither as thou supposeth would this man to have broke his promise and to resist the truth For thou saith thou considering that he might murmurre at your hindering of his gaine therefore you gave it him so then it seems it was not any convincement from your Doctrine nor any faith that he had in you that you were of God and we not but by tempting him with words and getting him into a ●●avish feare and then giving him money which if once the witnesse of God arise in him and he see the guilt of his treachery by your tempting words and money he may come to give you your money againe and tell you that the cu●se of God was in it and that by that thirty p●●c● he did sell the truth and bought it not But glory and everlasting prayses be to the Lord for ever that dayly brings your hidden things of darknesse to light and makes manifest the counsells of your hearts whereby all your temptings with money and words is discovered and that is but carnall weapons to defend your selves withall and with that you cannot keep the truth ●ut of New-castle but God hath a seed which he wild gather from amongst you which cannot be tempted neither with your words nor your money for you want the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God so you must make use of carnall weapons money and flattering words to keep people in the wayes of sinne and death telling them that the Lord is amongst you and that no evill will come upon them speaking peace to them that live in iniquiry as the false Prophets did Mal. 3 15. and ye have wearied the Lord with your words which have been without spirit and life Mal. 2. 17. This is given forth to stop the ignorance of foolish men and that none may glory in their shame as Samuel H●mmond hath done of his Book in his Letter to A. P. wherein he desires him not to be offended with the seeming harshnesse of the Assertions and saith that he hath written nothing but truth and the mind of Christ c. but what is here declared it is manifest to all that desire to know truth from deceipt that he hath travelled in iniquity and brought forth lyes and wearied himselfe for very vanity Hab. 2. 13. and though his Aspersions is come forth in harshnesse against us yet we shall render him truth for lyes and love for harshnesse as Christ hath taught us and so heap coales of fire upon his Head NOw there remaines some-thing that people may take notice of which is the Fundamentall Principles or Doctrine of that Priest-hood there being severall of their Brethren of that Priest hood met together in a dispute with some of us in Branspith-castle upon the 21. day of the seventh Moneth affirmed as followeth Josias Dockerey affirmed and the rest assented 1. That they have the Scriptures and their Gospel not from God but from Men 2. That there is no knowledge of the Spirit without the Scriptures 3. That immediate Revelation or Inspiration is not to be expected nor looked for in these dayes and that to expect it is Diabolicall or Devilish 4. And that that which is contained or Written in this very Volume laying his Hand upon the Bible and that which appears visibly to h●s externall sences is the Gospel 5. That the flesh of Christ is not in them 6. That Christ had and hath a naturall carnall Body and is in Heaven with a naturall carnall body and hath an humane carnall fleshly Body joyned to his Divinity and is in Heaven with it 7. That Timothy received not this Gospel from God but from man viz. from Paul Rich. Frankling affirmed 8. That Grace could not be conveyed to any man from the Lord without the ordinary outward means of Preaching 9. That the light spoken of in John 1. which enlightens every man c. is not sufficient to leade up to Christ Hen. Leaver 10 That they knew no such thing as Prophesie by immediate I●spiration or Revelation in these dayes These things are their Principles and Doctrines which they Preach to people to beleeve and is but their own Tradition contrary to the Principles of the Doctrine of Ch 〈…〉 and the Testimony of Scriptures Ans. Now as to the first if not from God but from man they have received their Gospel then it is not that which the Apostle Preached but another And saith the Apostle though we or an Angell from Heaven Preach any other Gospel unto you then that which we have Preached unto you let him be accursed Gal. 1. 8. For saith he in the 12. verse I neither receiued it of man neither was I taught it but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ so no other Gospel received in any other way is to be received or beleeved for the Gospel is the power of God as Rom. 1. 16. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to salvation to every one that beleeveth c. Now to say tha● they receive the power of God from man not from God is ignorance and error and to say that the Letter is the Gospel is as great ignorance and error and that Gospel 〈◊〉 accursed and he that Preaches it which is not received from God Now as to the second Pr. That there is no knowledge of the Spirit without the Scriptures Ans. If they had said that there had been no knowledge of Scriptures without the Spirit then they had spoken the truth whereas now they have spoken the plaine contrary for the Spirit gives the Knowledge of the Scriptures but the Scriptures gives not the Knowledge of the Spirit and the Apostle was of another judgement and Principle for saith he the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life and it is the spirit that quickneth John 6. 63. And John said they knew that they dwelt in God and he in them because he had given them of his spirit 1 John 4. 13. And Paul was an able Minister of the Testament not of the letter but of the spirit for the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life 2 Cor. 3. 6. now those before mentioned hath manifested that they are Ministers of the letter not of the spirit and so Preaches