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A79472 The beacon flameing with a non obstante: or A justification of the firing of the beacon, by way of animadversion upon the book entituled the beacon's quenched, subscribed by Col. Pride, &c. Cheynell, Francis, 1608-1665. 1652 (1652) Wing C3809; Thomason E683_30; ESTC R206835 18,732 28

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as to inform it that M. Calamy called the Members speckled Vipers Murtherers c. For the sake of your souls learn to be more honest And you our dear Countriemen learn from hence not to believe every bold and scandalous report that is cast upon the Ministery Speckled Vipers Murtherers Traitors Rebels Blasphemers c. We wish that those who have used such Language had better manners more love to the Commonwealth and care of their own welfare But what is all this to the Subscribers or to the Presbyterian Party as for us we know no Presbyterian that hath used any such language to or of the Parliament Your Honours have lately been Alarm'd with the noise of Popish Books Blasphemous Books c. and had we heard and seen no more but such fair Grasse without a Snake and the Plots of our constant Powder-Miners we had held our peace We easily believe that had you heard and seen no more then the noise of such Books you would have been no more offended at it then you are with the fair Grasse of Summer but the Magistrates Sword drawn out to suppresse them you cannot endure to hear of that 's the Snake in the bottom that so much scares you We cannot but in faithfulnesse tell your Honours the Plot is to amuse you with the noise of Popery and Blasphemy and in the interim to spring their Mines to blow up your Selves the Councel and Army c. This you say and we deny and none is the wiser by either except to perceive how skilful you are in plotting meer fictions your proofs are two viz. 1. For they hope yet for the day to steal the Sword out of your hands 2. For can your Honours imagine that such Licensers who write such Language above-said will ever set your Honours Imprimatur to any lines but of the same unclean and treasonable Spirit We appeal to your selves Whether these be clear demonstrations to prove the Plot you pretend to discover As for M. Calamy we beleeve he might challenge all his ill-willers to name one Popish Blasphemous or Treasonable Book that ever was Licensed by him and others can say of him that he hath Licensed as many excellent Books for his time as any that ever in this Nation were imployed in that trust And for the Stationers subscribing to the Beacon do all those golden Characters of Zeal and Holinesse spell any more then plain Presbytery By your own acknowledgement they spell as much And do the golden Characters of Zeal and Holinesse spell Presbytery Now well fare your hearts you have said more in praise of Presbyterie then our modestie would permit us And blessed be God that Presbyterie Zeal and Holiness are acknowledged at least to accord even by our adversaries themselves Is not the sale of Popish books the greatest part of the trade of some of them and p. 13. who did lately quarrell with one of their neighbour Book-sellers because he would not exchange the Holy Court for some of their Presbyterian Books No it is not nor are Popish books in English sold by any of them except very rarely to a learned pious friend whom they know to be sound in the faith and able to handle the snake without being stung which manner of selling may very well stand with a zealous desire that such books might never be published And this being true is answer enough about the exchange mentioned Who are also strongly reported to have a factor in Rome it self This charge cannot reasonably be fastned on any of the Subscribers except one whose Trade indeed is partly beyond the Seas but yet so farre from having any Factour at Rome that neither he nor his Predecessours before him in the place and Trade that he is in ever had any dealings in any part of Italy Nor is there any need of sending to Rome for Popish English Books of which the Beacon gives warning for they are too numerous here at home Hath not the most treasonable book that ever was printed against the State been certainly bought at the shop of some of them even since they fired the Beacon to the Parliament They know no such thing And that any such book was so sold by any of the Subscribers or by any for or under them with their knowledge or consent they are ready and willing to deny upon oath before your and their betters if called do you prove the contrary if you can Do not these Mercenaries know that a faire current for sober disputes and writings in matters of God controversall ingageth more Authours to write then a stop and stifling to the Spirit of God and men To make you more charitable then to judge us Mercenaries we leave you to the sanctifying Spirit of God to work in you the grace of Charity and are sorry you have so good an opinion of Idolaters and Blasphemers whose Arguments are attended where they are predominant with Halter and Faggot as to expect from them any sober Disputes and Writings No man that is but meanly versed in history and hath but competent intellectuals would expect such things from the hands of Papists witness but one passage which Mr. Squire relates in those Sermons wherein he proves the Pope to be Antichrist among many other sad instances of the Duke of Alva who professed publickly that he killed by torment 18000 of the Protestants in six yeers space for the very cause of Religion And yet religious Vargas one of that tribe that must be admitted to dispute complained that he had made the Netherlands worse by shewing them too much mercy And for your laying before us the consideration of the increase of books by such writings and disputes to abate our zeal against popish and blasphemous books let us tell you that we so little regard increase of Trade by such loathsome ware as that we were quickned up for fear of that temptation to pray against the publishing and increase thereof And whereas you call the stopping and suppressing of popish and blasphemous books a stopping and stifling of the Spirit of God We wish from our hearts you would according to the word of God and judgement of all the Churches that are come out of Babylon and the practice of the Army that have sometimes severely punished Blasphemers consider the punishing of men for their evil deeds and a stopping the course of Idolatry and Blasphemy the proper work of the Magistrate And as to books of Heresie Popery Blaspemy if there be equall liberty of engaging c. We need no other confutation but the sence and experience of these late yeers wherein this equall liberty hath been used O do not our eyes see how strangely Errours of all sorts and sizes have prevailed with the multitude partly through the just judgement of God upon those that receive not the truth in the love of it partly through the craftiness and hypocrisie of deceivers and partly through the naturall aptness of people to imbrace novelties carnall