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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A30543	Something of truth made manifest (in relation to a dispute at Draton in the county of Middlesex in the first moneth last) in opposition to the false account given of it by one Philip Traverner, in his book styled the Quakers-rounds, or, A faithfull account, &c. / and this is written ... by E.B.	Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1658 (1658)	Wing B6026; ESTC R22012	18,268	26

divers of us at that meeting which is not particularly related which definition of our justification they could not except against for we never were nor are ashamed to declare what we hold concerning justification which is through faith in the blood of Christ the seed of the Covenant and though at that time they made much jangling yet to no purpose as to convince us of any errour or any sober men there present of any errour in us as concerning that thing And whereas it is related as if I should say We are men brought up at plow-tayle and understand not Scholar like terms my words were not thus spoken but upon the occasion of their speaking words which is not in Scripture-language as inherent righteousnesse for such like Whereupon I desired them to keep to the form of sound words and of Scripture-language that people might understand what they spoke For said I ye are Scholers as ye professe and some of us were brought up at Plow or Cart and may be doth not understand Scholar-like termes though I did not meane all of us and what some of us do understand as to that I shall not now speak yet this I say the least of us doth understand betwixt truth and error and between that which is righteous and that which is unrighteous and in that is more peace then in the knowledge of Arts or Tongues and our knowledge in that is dung and losse in comparison of the other And as to Justification upon which subject we contended a long time though they foolishly charged us with it we do deny utterly the works of man and the works of mans righteousnesse as in relation to our justification and that it is only and wholly by grace and gift of God and the righteousnesse of Christ who is revealed in all that believe in him by which justification comes yet say we that faith without works is dead and will not justifie a man but by that faith which brings forth works even the works of God in us and through us by that faith are we justified and according to the Apostles words so we believe not by works of righteousnesse which we have done nor by a dead faith without works but by a living faith which worketh in us are we justified Let vain men deduct what they may this is truth in the sight of the Lord and all men These indeed are the particulars upon which the Controversie depended and having been some hours together they were willing to depart and R. G. would give little hearing to me when I charged him with something uttered by him at divers times in my hearing which I should have proved to be unsound doctrine and error had he had that patience to have stayed and whereas P. T. doth speak of having a Pope in our bellies with such like scornful words which a discreet man would not have defiled his mouth withal but that he must shew himself to be of the generation of Priests who persecuted the innocent in every age and for his telling of our error and recovering of our feet out of the snare and delivering us from the delusion its true his words stands but upon a supposition and that supposition stands upon the report of others as he seems to intimate which is but a thing far off true credit for what error and snares and delusion did P. T. convince us of in five hours discourse not any at all but the rather was forced to confess to the most part of what we delivered then what need was there to utter these his words in writing as if he had heard some great matter of delusion or error but all these his words I do bear and if he hath harboured such thoughts of us as it appears too much by his words let him cleanse his heart by repentance lest his intended evil bruise his own head And whereas he hath commented upon a book called a Standerd lifted up which book I own and that which is therein written and himself is forced to own what himself objects against and comments upon if saith he E. B. mean so and so then his words are truth but if so and so then it is Pope like or such like Alas poor man must I be judged upon thy own meaning nay or must thy interpretation be the judge upon my words We have no such law my words stands true as I have laid them down to be received by such as are spiritual and such as loves to raise constructions falsely where there is no just ground their judgement I do deny and charity will teach P. T. to judge upon the best sence and so let him own my words as truth and judge himself for his false construction of true and upright words onely this I take notice of saith P. T. A perfect conformity to the Law of God in our own persons though not wrought in our own strength but in the strength and power of grace the spirit working all in us and for us is no other then the righteousness of the Law I need not much strive to confound this black doctrine by many arguments or multitude of words for the thing as laid down in his own words is vile and abominable to the understanding of any spiritual man for say I if it be the spirit working in us and for us not in our own strength then is it God that worketh in us both to will and to do and the fulfilling of the righteousness of the Law in us and not the righteousness of the Law wrought by us and if it be in the strength and power of grace not in our own strength then it is the work of Christ in us and the work of Gods own righteousness in us and any man that knows the least of God in truth will witness to this and against his imagined doctrine held forth by P. T. I might demand a proof of him from Scripture where it is said or signified that the working of the spirit all in us and for us and the working of the power of grace in the creature is reckoned to be our own righteousness the righteousness of the Law and my words stands true from which he draws his false consequences and layes down his dark assertions and my own words I do own which are such as are taught by Christ and guided by him in all the wayes of righteousness are justified by him and none else not in any word or work whatsoever but in what they are led to fulfil by him and in these words there is neither contradiction nor unsoundnesse though he hath ignorantly charged them with both but the words shall stand for a testimony against him and all his false deductions and he and all shall know that God justifies the righteous and condemns the wicked and that it is the new man that is justified and not the old and let righteous men judge what can be in such a mans heart who can draw so bad

deny them as coming from him but as to the substance of some of the particulars I did own having laid them down according to my own honest meaning in my own found expression of words and thereupon I engaged a dispute upon the particulars having first denied them as laid down by him and in his corrupt expressions and then owned them in the simplicity in the words as by me uttered I mean some of them but some I altogether denied And as to speak of that Text Ioh. 5. 39. by which sayest thou I endeavoured to skin over what I spoke but to no punpose I do deny thy words for that same verse shal stand a witness for me and against thee in all the world and that verse shall prove that some of the Scriptures were spoken to the world and not to the Saints and the truth it self is my covering and I need no other thing to skin over as thou scornfully spakest And whereas thou sayest There was just matter of reproof in the dispute in both parties c. Answ. While thou hast condemned others thou hast judged thy self who was of the one party a strong contender for the Priests party and having now accused both parties would clear thy self to be of neither but cannot for it is known that thou didst take their part and in the title thou sayest the discourse was betwixt a party of them called Quakers with Mr. Philip T. c. where thou dost own thy self to be one and reckons thy self the formost Master of the Disputants and now upon better consideration I think when thou hast searched into their folly with whom thou wast joined thou wouldst absent thy self to be none of them but a third party but let me tell thee what disorder prejudice and passion as thou speaks of as was amongst the Priests thou hast a part in and must own their sin and their condemnation for thou art also guilty and that there was any passion except pure zeal for God and his truth which thou mightest falsely so call or prejudice or such like amongst us I db deny it and knows thee to have born a false testimony and all thy covers as if thou wert a moderator or the like in thy speaking will not hide thee nor cover thee from what I have said of thee But as to the things in particular I now come and may shew what my words are and the ground of them and how I laid them down and upon what occasion in the first meeting whereupon the Dispute did arise and I do not here go about to give a perfect relation of that Dispute for my memory hath not contained what passed but as to the intent and meaning of my words I would give all the true knowledge thereof and how far I do own the particulars charged against me First as to that The Scriptures are not the word of God because the Devil spoke something and Pharoah something which is there written Answ. There is some truth in this but my words were drawn up by him at the shortest and the most for his own advantage laid down by him for I do remember that in the first meeting I was a speaking concerning the Word of God and concerning the Scriptures which are a declaration thereof and shewing the difference betwixt the Word and the Letter and Scriptures for the Word of God was in the beginning and the world was made by it and it endures for ever but the Scriptures were not in the beginning for Moses was the first that wrote any thing of the Scripture who was long after the beginning neither was the world made by them neither can they endure for ever and therefore the letter the Scriptures are not the Word of God which the Scriptures call the Word for also in the Scriptures are written what the Devil spoke and what Pharoah and other wicked men spoke and therefore they are not the Word of God but as I have said a declaration of the Word and what is written of is the Word but the Scriptures the writings are not but a testimony and declaration of the Word much more as to this might be said and was spoken by me at the meeting which is not particularly related and this is sufficient to any honest man that is spiritual who hath an understanding to judge hereof Now I suppose themselves none of them are so ignorant as they will say the Scriptures are that Word which was in the beginning and which shall endure for ever but say they the Scriptures are another Word a declarative Word or such like terms now when we dispute or contend with any about the Word of God we dispute what that Word is which the Scripture saith is the Word and doth deny that Word to be the Scriptures writings though still we do own the Scriptures a declaration of that very Word of God and that the Scriptures in any place doth call themselves the Word or signifie so much I do deny it and it is left for any of our opposers to prove it that can if they do I will confess it to be the Word and revoke all that I have spoken to the contrary And as for thy deductions and consequences drawn from my words I do deny them for they are not to me but will turn upon thy self for thou sayest A strange kind of assertion as if nothing of the mind will and councel of God were declared in Scripture and whitherto can be the tendency of such giddy doctrines then to a weakening the authority of the Scriptures and begetting slightings and undervaluing thoughts and that the effects may be lightly esteeming the Scriptures These and such deductions hast thou drawn through thy ignorance from my words from all which I am clear as having no intent to any such things nor any intent but to testifie the pure innocent truth and thy deductions are far more ignorant and impudent then my assertion is strange and let thy consequences be what they will from my words the truth of my words will justifie me in the sight of God and his Saints for I do honour the Scriptures above other writings and gives them the authority and esteem and respect due unto them and more I dare not And some of thy pages I pass over as not worth taking notice of onely doth say thou hast wronged me in not relating so much as was spoken by us by far and in relating more then was spoken by thee or thy party And the next thing I note is this where R G. said he would and went about to prove that the Letter is the Word of God but was not nor is never able to prove and thou hast changed the words of his argument in thy relation from what they were as he laid them down in the dispute from called to owned For thus his words were laid down at that time said he That which Christ and the Apostles called the Word of God is indeed the Word