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A10318 A directorie teaching the way to the truth in a briefe and plaine discourse against the heresies of this time Whereunto is added, a short treatise against adiaphorists, neuters, and such as say they may be saued in any sect or religion, and would make of many diuers sects one Church. Radford, John, 1561-1630. 1605 (1605) STC 20602; ESTC S115540 239,684 640

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writer but al so therin nov a●d then haue vsed some oshisowne speeches whose name though very memorable yet for the present vpon inst reasons I doe conceale trusting only to my slender weake memorye of that I haue heretofore reade or in schooles heard of my masters if I say in touching of so high misteries so many and waighty matters I in any sorte haue fayled or gone one iotte astray from the common receaued faith of the true Catholike and Apostolike Romane Churche as by GODS gratious assistance I trust I haue not yet if there be any of my learned Catholike Brethren that can synde any iust faulte or error herein I will not obstinatly defende yet as Heret●ks doe but humbly thanke him that will friendlie charitable either correct it him selfe or warne me of it that I may correct it my s●lfe amend it For I as a fra●le mā may easily e● Yet ●●l I boldlie say with that learned * Father I w●●●euer be an heretike by GODS grace as alwaies submitting my lelfe ●nd all my sayings and doings to the censure judgment and correction of the holy Catholike Churche that I knowe cannot erre Neither haue I heare written any large discourse of any thing but only touched as it weare the toppes of things with what breuitie l mighte makinge the vnlearned to vnderstand But this I beseech you if at any tyme you perce●●e me to enueigh sh●rply against heretiks or their falie d●alings abuses that you woulde not take yt that I doe it for any wante of Charitie towards them or for hatred against their persons but only in respect of their vices and damnable sects heresies wherby they hurt thēselues and others and slaunder the trueth For it is the zeale of GODS cause and the Catholike trueth that some tyme more vehemently causeth me to speake for it is not the most malitious heretike in this lande nor all the heretiks though neuer so malitiouslie they seeke our bloude but GOD is my witnes I am so farre from wishing them harme though olde infestred diseases must be cured with sharpe medicines sometymes for the patients good that I woulde lay my hands vnder their feete and kisse the very grounde they tread one to doe them good and winne their soules to GOD which though with the losle of my lise it were donne yet I trust in GOD I shoulde thinke it well * Aug. bestowed But if my laboures can doe such no good yet I hope GOD will accept my good will and desire And if that I may herewith doe any well disposed person good Then I beseech him whosoeuer that I a sinnful wretch may be pertaker of his good prayers which is all I desire for these smal paines Fare you well 10. Aprilis Anno 1594. Written by him who desireth the good of his Countrye and saluation of all I. R. CHAP. I. OF THE TRVE WAT to saluation GOod Sir touching the truth of those matters you desire to know First assure your selfe for certaine there is but one truth from which whosoeuer obstinatly swarueth must needes be a lyar so not of God but of the Diuell the father of lies Secondly to knowe the truth you can enquire of none more certaine thē of him who is truth himselfe who calleth himselfe via veritas vita the way truth life A way by grace truth by infallible direction life by fruition of his glory that is Christ him if you follow the true way you shall not walke a-stray him the light and fountaine of truth if you chiefly respect you shall not erre nor be ouer-whelmed in darknesse and so neither here want the life of grace without which the soule cannot liue nor so consequently of Gods glory without which the soule liueth in euerlasting death without which life of grace here glory there better it had bin neuer to haue enioyed this mortal transitory life For what profiteth it a man saith that euerlasting truth if he winne the wholeworld and loose his owne soule The beauty of which soule of man created by God whilst it remayneth in state of grace is so great as framed to the likenesse of almighty God the dignity so excellent as being fellow and coheire with Christ and the price of such value as redeemed with his pretious bloud which beauty of mans soule is soiled blotted quite lost yea become like vnto the olde and crooked most vglie serpent the Diuell by sin ignorance forgetfulnesse to be briefe for want of knowledge and following of the truth which is Christ who said he that followeth me walketh not in darknesse but shal haue the light of life Assure your selfe then my good Sir that it is the sweete motion of Gods holy spirit that in clineth your desire to know the truth which is of such inuinsible force that it stayeth it selfe in God only I meane as the finall and chiefe end of truth For wine may be strong women faire Princes mighty Sed omnia vincit veritas But truth ouercommeth all thinges Enquire then of Christ the infallible truth of those thinges you stand in doubt and you shall be sure neuer to misse the way so that you so enquire that you follow him with perseuerance to the end which is obteyned by Gods grace in perfect humility without security presumption or trust in our selues as of our selues but working with Gods grace our owne saluation chiefly reposing and staying our selues in the helpe and mercies of God and so in matters of faith yea and good workes also a man I meane may be in sure hope and cōfidence neuer to misse the way I haue you will saye enquired thus of Christ but I finde diuers professors of Christ quite differing a sunder in most weighty matters of high misteries of Faith Religion Sacraments Ceremonies and of euerlasting Saluation and yet all parties glorie of the truth How may I then an vnlerned man discerne the light of the truth from amongst so many monstrous cloudes of darknes Hear therefore what Christ saith the truth that cānot fail wel consider I say the rule he setteth downe to know the truth from the dissembled cloake of trueth which is pernitious falsehood and deceitfull flattery These be his words Many shal come in my name say I am Christ shall deceiue many Mat. 4 and againe shall saye Beholde here is Christ Beholde him there as one sorte of people who at this day glory of christ The worde of the Lord and the Gospel say beholde you shall finde Christ in a parte corner of Germanie in Saxony in Wittenberge in Denmarke as the Lutherans who affirme that man hath no free will and that God is the author of euell aswell of the treason of Iudas as of the election of Saint Paul An other Sect as of Anabaptists that oftentimes abuse Baptisme and confound all good ciuill and politicke gouernment to the extirpation of Christian Princes and all gouernors saye you shall finde Christ
members go that way The feete bidds not the hand doe this neither any of the inferior members haue domination ouer the higher but euery one vseth his office and function and is gouerned by the head that is Christs Vicar and cheife Pastor of our soules S. Peters successor whose faith Christ promised should euer holde and neuer faile and therefore when tribute was to be paid for heads of houses our Sauiour bad S. Peter goe to the water and take a fish in whose mouth hee shoulde finde a peece of mony and that he bad Math. 17. 27. him pay for them both for me and theo said Christ marke here for whome this tribute was paid for Heads of houses only not for the rest of Christs disciples but for Cephas only that is S. Peter the rock and head of Gods house vnder Christ tribute was paid Thus you see what vnity peace charity is in Gods Church by reason of one heade vnder Christ the Pope Whereby you see how the citty of Gods Church by this order in what sweete disposition it is as that citty Ierusalem well built and noe maruaile for as we read Saba hearing of 3. Reg. 10 the wisdome and worthines of Salomon comming out of the vttermost coastes of the earth to see him when shee harde his wisedome saw the temple of God which he had built the princely Palace wherin he dwelt the godly order and disposition of his seruants the varietie of dishes the goodly seruice at his tables with great admiration burst out saying Beati serui qui astant coram te audiunt sapientiam tuam Blessed be thy seruants that wait in thy presence and hearing thy wisedome minister at thy table If Salomon then which was but a shadow or figure of Christ the eternall wisedome of his father coulde so dispose his house no meruaile then though Christ the truth and wisedome it selfe in most noble decent and wise order could dispose his holy Church which S. Paul calleth the 1. Tim. 3. house of God the pillar and foundation of the truth this is done especially by the Sacrament of Order for want wherof all discord and confusion is amongst heretikes whose rude company like the proud builders of the tower of Babilon confound one another and lifting their mouthes to heauen to pul God from his throne be deuided into innumerable sects without all order Wherefore the conuenticle of heretiks for her miserable confusiō is properly called in holy Scripture the strumpet of Babilō drinking of the cup of Gods wrath iustly forsaken of him as destitute of his spirit for want of peace vnity and concorde and the Church of the malignant whereof that terrene bloudy Cain was the first builder as Abell that innocent Martir was the first builder of the citty of God Chap. XXXV Wherein is more at large described the Babilonicall confusion of sinne and heresy how God hath blessed this Country of olde for honour and obedience to the Church Priesthood THerefore in heresy this Sinagogue of Satan is such a discord and disorder that it is a very figure of hell vbi nullus ordo c. where as testifieth holy Iob there is no order but euerlasting horr●r dwelleth therein What biting is there of one another neuer agreeing with them selues nor their followers what bitter inuectiues euery one braggeth of the spirit of God euery one would be a teacher an other Paul as it were numquid omnes Apostoli numquid omnes Doctores The Apostle teacheth the Church of Christ that euery one should not take vpon him to haue the office of an Apostle or Doctor but with heretikes it is quite contrary euery one looketh amongst them to be a teacher at least to expound the word euery one thinketh himselfe a Priest though neuer called to that function by any lawfull authoritie they would seme to haue Scripture for thē but falsely wrested Al we Christians in deed in holy Scripture be called genus sacerdotale a priestly stock generation or kindred but what then So we be called al kinges in the scripture or a princely generation As therefore wee bee not all properly kings but in some respect it is that wee bee so called for that we by Gods grace liue well and raigne in Christ well rule our inordinate passions and motions and well gouerne our selues that it is which is a greater matter then for some loosely to gouerne a kingdome So and no otherwise a●l lay Christians be called Priests not for that they bee properly Priestes which none can be but those which by order are lawfully chosen and ordeined but because they offer vpon their harts spirituall sacrifice of prayses prayers thanksgiuing to God which be not properly sacrifice but metaphorically no more be all Christians Priests properly but figuratiuely as we be not al properly Kings but vnproperly and in signification But heretickes like vncleane beastes and vnreasonable creatures out of all order make no distinction of any thing but confounde all therefore no meruaile though amongst them the feete stand where the head shoulde and the head in steede of the feete Euery maide amongst them by Luthers opiniō is a Priest and euery Minister amongst the Puritanes woulde bee heade of the Church euery one may start vp into the Pulpit and say what the spirit moueth him the man controleth his Master woemen men for not preaching the worde sincerely if there be any forme of order at this day in England amongst Protestants as wearing of Surplices Rochets square Caps and keeping Belles and Churches and the like all these ceremonies that beare a laudable shewe they haue and steale from the Catholike Church insomuch that Whitgift their chiefe Superintendent of Canterbury coulde not defende such ceremonies as appeareth by his booke against Puritanes but only by Catholike arguments Wherefore they though vnworthely call him Pope of Lambeth But in deed as heretickes tearme them those bee but Popes ragges in deede The Diuell careth not to leaue amongst heretickes a a fewe ceremonies of Catholickes to deceaue the simple in making a shewe so the Sacraments that is the things them selues wherby men should receaue gods grace be taken away so they take the shell leaue out the kernell take but only our ragges as it were if I might so tearme such laudable ceremonies when they be well vsed in Gods Church and all to cloth with all and couer the vncleane filth and abhomination of their ragged heretical flock which be deuided almost into as many superstitious heresies contray opinions as they be men yet would imitate vs catholikes in their outward ceremonies as apes do mē In so much but that it hath pleased God to leaue some seed of catholiks yet in Englād that kepeth thē in some awe they before this I may iustly thinke had all become Turkes or worse openly denying Christ God and all as many of them alreadye by the relation of some that be of their secrets
that is to vvorke vvickedlye and their damnation The Pope then and the holye Church hath not disalowed pardons the vse whereof bee requisite but hee hath ordained by consent of the whole Church that Pardoners no more so abuse the people but that they receaue pardons from their ordinarye and lawfull Curates and that without all hope of gaine or mony hereafter As for your ministers good men they bee all in the spirit they desire no mony women nor no worldly nor corporall thing they be so full of the spirit yet because you know them better then I tell mee I praye you whether they be not some thing greedye of duties that vvere paid to Priestes and the Church of olde yea of very pence or halfe pence giuen of deuotion of olde for maintenance of Church lights holy Water and holy Bread and the like now imployed to feede their brats with or to light themselues or their wiues to bed who if they bee greedy of that which is nothinge their due yea be the most beggarlye couetuous wretches in England of all men then let them not complaine of the Popes couetuousnes for pardons no nor of any thing which was giuen to Priestes or the Church which in deede vvas due as Peter pence and the like Chap. XLIX Exhorting all to doe their Penance meekely here and not to trust to much to the helpe praiers of their friendes left behinde BVt thus by the waye in speakinge of pardons vvhich by charitable faithfull men aliue maye bee applied by meanes of suffrage to the faithfull departed for their speedy release I am digressed from my purpose in speaking of Purgatory and prayer for the dead Before I touched certaine places of the Scriptures and authority of the Church and Fathers that maketh for this purpose and how fasting prayer pardons but especially the holye sacrifice of the Masse is the most soueraigne remedy for the faithfull departed But as I exhorte all to praye for the departed and forget them not considering they cannot helpe themselues though Diuines holde that the more charitable wee are to helpe the departed by so much the prayer of our friendes shall helpe vs after our death so vvoulde I vvish all not to much to trust others vvhich oftentimes be forgetful of their friendes departed enjoye they neuer so many of their posessions and goods But let each one doe well yea the best hee can for himselfe and performe his penance meekly whilest he is here that he may haue a pure and perfect soule for happelye euen in those that bee carefull of their Saluation some drosse of sin imperfection or corruption maye bee founde to staye them in that fire of Godes iustice and there many a light thought many a vaine worde many a head-strong passion and vnmortified affection which we little regarded and lightly passed ouer in our selues without correction shal bee founde stiffe matter for Godes iustice to worke on in that cleansing fire where nil inultum remanebit no sinne shal bee left vnpunished the sharpnesse and seueritie whereof in that it is inflicted by Gods judgement for sinne who is it if hee deeplye consider but hee may easilye perceaue The greatnesse of vvhich paine is such and so subtile that God can lay such punishment on the soule in one houre that it may seeme and serue for a thousand yeares whereby you see that those that at the day of judgement shal bee taken in debt of paine due to sinne may fullfill it in an howre though they deserued a thousand yeares so greatly canne GOD Almighty increase the punishment in that space so that vvhen the Pope graunteth pardon for manye thousand yeares vvhen as Purgatory shall remayne no longer but till the daye of judgement which perhappes maye bee with in an hundreth yeares yet his pardons be right iust and auailable for the reason abouesaid But as I said I exhort all to doe their Penance here leaue it not to that place for besides that one day there is more then a whole yeare here and yet that one day of penance here may satisfie for a whole yeare there yet though a man vvere there a thousande yeares hee should nothing merit thereby but only satisfie for sinne with paine and due punishment but here in doing penance he both satisfieth for his sinnes escapeth greater punishment increaseth his merit more plentifully receauing here the grace of God in this life and glory in the next Chap. L. Of Pilgrimage proued by examples of Christ and his seruantes AS for pilgrimage of deuotion or vowe to holy places where it hath pleased God to worke his wonders if it be well vsed it is laudable and highlye commended in holy Scripture as appeareth by that solemne pilgrimage that not onlye of the Iewes but also Act. 8. 27. of the Gentiles proselites yea and by our Sauiour himselfe and his blessed Mother vvas made to Salomons Temple where God did accept of their prayers better then in other places though he be in euery place and heareth those at any time that in spirit and truth worship him and call vpon him The three kinges that by guiding of a Mat. 2. 2. stare found out Christ what other was that then a pilgrimage to Hierusalem Bethleem So S. Helene a noble Empresse went in pilgrimage to Hierusalem and miraculouslye founde out the Crosse S. Iohn Chrisostome had such a desire to haue seene and kissed the verye chaines of Saint Peter at Rome wherein he was bounde and to see the place where Saint Paul shedde his bloude there where three fountaines miraculously at his death sproung vp that he said If he were at liberty from charge of his Bishoply and pastorall care hee woulde haue gone in pilgrimage frō Constantinople to Rome him selfe Many like testimonies and examples for Pilgrimage might be found which wee are to beleeue and follow scoff M. Minister neuer so much in his chaire at home For holy Saint Hierome that in Pilgrimage trauailed about Hierusalem and all the holy land and with Paula Eustochium and many other B. Virgins and Widowes as hauing care or charge ouer them most sweetely visited and religiously liued and died by the holy Manger at Bethleem where the sweete babe Iesus was borne may and shall be to me euer of more reuerend authority then all the taunts of heretiks in the world to moue me a iote For I had rather be a poore Pilgrime with S. Hierome in that poore deuout Caue at Bethleem then a proude heretike in a Princes Pallace Chap. LI Of the reliques of Saints reuerently to be vsed and kept and of miracles wrought by meanes of them AS for the B. bodies and reliques of Saints who shed their bloud for Christ which once were shall be euer after the resurrection liuely temples tabernacles of the holy Ghost which heretickes blasphemously call deade mennes bones though we neither worship them nor their Images as Gods neither thinke any diuinity in them or worthy any
your saluation you must leaue going to heretikes Church and Seruice For if you goe to their Church yea but once a yeare you can be no more a member of Christs Catholicke Church as long as you continue in that state and minde it casteth you out from it yea once at any time going to their prayer and seruice sermons or Sacraments Nay the Pope himselfe cannot dispence with any to goe to the heretiks Church to be present or heare their seruice because it is by Gods lawe forbidden Moreouer wee gather out of Saint Paul he that consenteth to sinne is guilty of the same sinne he in any sort consenteth tot The Protestants of this time then be cōdemned for heretikes by all Christendome and be indeede most detestable heretickes and their seruice contrary to Gods ordinance and sacrilegious sinne but to goe to the Church is by my action and deede a consenting to sinne in that I alowe of them by my presence and otherwise wherein I sinne damnably therefore to goe to heretickes seruice and prayer is a damnable sinne yea schisme and vnlawfull and cannot be dispensed with First then it is against Gods holy eter nall lawe to goe to heretiks Churches to fitte or be with them in their Church at their prayers or seruice whereof said the holy Prophet Odiui Ecclesiam malignantiam cum impiis non sedebo I hated the Church of the malignannt and will not sitte with the vvicked Yea you shall finde in all the vvhole course of the holy Scriptures in the olde Testament how God seperated his people from forraigne Nations and people of a contrary religion so farre from praying or marrying with them that they shoulde not eate drinke nor conuerse with them Thus for example God speaketh of marrying or conuersing of his people vvith women of a false religion Certissime enim auertent corda vestra a domino vestro beware of strange and forraigne women because most certainly they will auert or turne your harts from your Lord God See here how carnall conuersion is forbidden to Gods people with idolatrous herericall or ill persons how much more ought we not to commerce or meddle with them in spirituall or diuine matters for then certo certius without all doubt they will peruert our soules who by gay painting words and sweet speaches doe reduce the harts of the innocent the Diuell vsing the mouth of heretiks to seduce the simple as he did the body and whispering of the serpent to deceiue our first mother Eue insomuch that for feare of this inconuenience of being seduced and chiefly for not to break the law of God which forbiddeth to pray and goe to heretikes Churches the perfect beleeuers of olde of the tribe of Iuda did not pray nor vse in many other respects to conuerse with the Samaritans as appeareth in S. Iohn which Ioh. 4. Samaritans were Schismatiks fallē into Schisme and Idolatry from the true Chtholicke Iuda and Hierusalem the Citie of God And although Peter Iohn and others of the Apostles went to the Temple of the Iewes after Christs Ascention they did that lawfully because she lawe of Christ then being not so manifestly knowne nor his faith and Gospell spread through the worlde the lawe of Moyses was by degrees to be buried with honour yea and the Apostles went chiefly thither by their preaching doctrine and miracles to confound the obstinate Iewes and plant Christ the truth in their harts in which case a learned Doctor of the Catholike Church that is to make a Catholike sermon or to conuert or confound an hereticall preacher might goe to Church yea some holde that for some meere temporal respect as for example to beare the Princes sword or his cushen or the like one might so waite of his Lord and Master to Church so it be knowne to all men that that temporall action or office is only the cause of his so doing and so one neither pray nor shew any reuerence to their seruice and so he presently returne when hee hath done his temporall office this was the case as some suppose of Naaman the Syrian who asked leaue of the holy Prophet to wait of his king to the idolatrous temple to do his tēporall busines to be briefe God is iealous Zelotes euen as the mā may not abide his louing spouse to be familiar or conuerse with another but wil cast her out rather so God will not haue the soule for his spouse that is double in hart or goeth two waies perdi disti omnes qui fornicantur abs te thou hast destroyed all that cōmit fornication frō thee O Lord. No man can serue two Masters but must either pleaseone or displease the other we cannot serue God Māmon Christ Baliall God our true father will not haue his childe deuided but will rather leaue it in the euill womans keeping But what shall I say of some monstrous mindes drawing euery thing to their owne humors as that forsooth a mā may go to heretiks church so he pray not with thē because the 3. childrē of Israel were amōgst those that ado Nabucadonosers statua or idol yet worshipped it not wheras these three childrē in that they there openly cōfessed their faith suffering thēselues to be east into the hot fierie furnace rather then they would dissemble the true faith one iott in worshipping a false god or yeelding to an vntrue religion do condemne all schismatiks most euidently that dissemble all thinges in taking othes goeing to Church kneeling vncouering the head hearing blasphemy and keeping silence yea for feare saying ofte as they say but suppose they but only bee present at Church yea though it were with a protestation of a contrary religion to heresie either vnder the colour of obedience or the like Yet it is vnlawfull because such a protestation declareth that hee cōmeth to do a thing that of it selfe is intrins●ce malum very naught and euill of it self as I proued before so this protestatiō aggrauateth the sinne as those do that more publikely sinne and yet excuse defend or rather glory in it The like may be said of that obedience of theirs to an vniust law which intendeth thereby that a man shoulde allow and conforme himself to heresi iniustice in which case wee are neither to obay Master Mistris Parents Husbande Magistrate nor the greatest Prince in the world but we must boldly say with Saint Peter wee must abey God Act. cap. 4. rather then men as for the presence of these three children before the people adored to say therefore one may bee amongst heretikes at their seruice is very childish foolish for either these three holy men when they came thither knew not of any such worshippe there to bee done but that it was some other spectacle or els as being principall persons they came as magistrates for some tēporal seruice to the King ouer the people or els they came by the very instinct of the holy
Ghost to reproue the people of their sinne and false worshippe and to acknowledge worshippe the liuing God as the glorious profession of his name in the middest of the flame with that angelicall Society well declareth Secondly this matter was talked of and debated by certaine great learned men at the counsell of Trent and was founde most vnlawfull both by the law of God and the Church therefore no power on earth no not the Pope can dispence with any to goe to the heretikes church no more then he can dispence with any to kill steale comit fornication or the like neither was it needeful to make any new canon or decree of this matter because in former generall councelles yt was euer holden vnlawfull yea an expresse canon of the Apostles forbiddeth al Christians to goe to heretiks churches or seruice much lesse to receiue with them or cōmunicate with them in their Sacraments If any say Cardinall Allen thought it not such great sinne to goe to heretiks church it is most false impudent as his letters and writinges wel vnderstood yea his life and death declareth and as the liues and deaths of his schollars which if I may so terme it bee vere signū Apostolatus sui make most manifest to the world and he that holdeth it lawful to goe to Church of heretiks cōdemneth well neere a hundred of B. Martirs in our daies that might haue liued if they once would haue yeeldeth to haue gone to Church Thirdly the Pope himself and all learned diuines of our time vtterly deny it in any sort to be lawfull and no doubt his holines if in any sorte it could haue bene tollerated of his commisseration and fatherly pitty of our affliction would most willingly haue dispenced with vs surely the Apostolike father the Pope alone his iudgēt ought to satisfi any true Catholik Christian in the world Fourthly goeing to heretikes Church is most dangerous for feare of infection can a man touch pitch and it not defile him can he lye by a Serpent and she not sting him then then may he conuers with an heretik much and be not infected or corrupted with him and therefore S. Paul exhorteth vs to flie the heretik man because his heresie creepeth as the cāker it hath bene noted in great learned men that in reading of heretikes bookes haue bin thereby inclyning to heresie how much more dangerous then is it for lay persons Yea simple vnlearned men to heare their voice in sermons prayers and the like wherefore heretiks bookes also vnder paine of excommunication be forbidden to all to be read For feare of infection vnlesse they haue lawfull authority or faculty graunted them Fiftly as wee read in the Ecclesiasticall histories true Christians euermore abhorred the Churches conuenticles and companies of heretiks yea Saint Iohn the Euangelist would not bath himself where Cerinthus the enemie of the truth had bene before lest the bath should fal vppon his head and exhorteth vs not to salute the heretike which wee ought not to do in any sort to fauour his heresi though to wynne heretiks to God and true religion The church in this time permitteth vs to eat drinck and traffick with heretiks and schismatiks in temporall matters only as our B. Sauiour and his Apostles conuersed eat and drank with sinners to winne thē to his fathers kingdome yea to conuerse with heretiks was so odious a thing so well knowne in the primitiue church to be vnlawful that the people would not say Amen or abide in the Church whilst the Arrian Bishop was amongst them nay that which is strange the very childrē made a conscience to play with the ball with out expiacion before that ranne vnder the heretiks horses feete what should I say blessed Martirs of old yea tender Virgins and Women accounted it nolesse then very denial of Christ who said Hee that denyeth mee before men I will deny him before my father in heauen either to goe to churches of heretiks or temples of Idolaters which be in effect one For as Idolaters worship the workes of their handes so do heretiks their fond opinions and imaginations and Idolatry a great deale worse then that of the gentiles If these blessed Saints of old I say would but haue yeelded to the tyme in but once putting vp the fingar to the wicked demaunds of the persecutors to haue gone to their churches and seruice then had wee wanted many glorious Martirs in heauen which those sharpe tymes of persecution most fruitfully afford vs. Sixtly this dissimulation in being present at heretiks seruice is scandalous and offensiue to the infirme and weak in faith inducing other to sinne do the like which sinne of scandall is one of the greatest and most generall in the world and shal be most seuerely punished against which Christ thundereth that most terrible woe affirming it were better one with a mill-stone about his neck were cast into the sea then to scandalise one of such litleweaklings in christ and religion Whereuppon the holy Apostle affirmed he would neuer eat flesh rather then offend his weake Brother Yea old Eleazarus a Iew before Christ which may be a confusion to many Christians would rather suffer death then but only seeme to do against the law for feare of drawing weaklinges and younglinges to do the same Seauenthly and last for it is my purpose to be briefe and referre you to more large and learned substantiall treatises writen of this matter in goeing to heretikes Churches or being thus present at their prayers Sacramentes or seruice in any place conuenticle or congregation of theirs be a man neuer so Catholick in minde yet in so doing he becommeth a schismatike excommunicate person which is a thing more terrible then the two edged sword or any torment in this life For thereby a man is cut from God Christ and all the Sacraments prayers merits of Saints in heauē the prayers good deedes of all good men in earth so is exposed to the Deuill and damnation For as said S. Augustme to Peter the Deacon holde stedfastly and doubt in no wise not only al Paynims Iewes but also al heretiks schismatiks that dye without Christs Catho Church shall goe into euerlasting fier prepared for the Deuill his Angells a terrible token whereof God shewed yea euen in this life of schismatiks as Chore Dathan Abiron that were of the same religion Moyses was yet because they deuided themselues from Moyses Aaron offring sacrifice of thēselues not being lawfully called thereunto fire consumed them from heauē their adherēts Yea the earth swallowed them downé quick to hell therefore S. Augustine biddeth feare nothing so much as diuision separation that is schisme for what ●● schisme but a cutting of and diuision from the whole so that such Christians as in all points beleeue as the church doth and yet in their action do contrary to their beliefe as such dissemblers do that