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A01333 T. Stapleton and Martiall (two popish heretikes) confuted, and of their particular heresies detected. By D. Fulke, Master of Pembrooke hall in Cambridge. Done and directed to all those that loue the truth, and hate superstitious vanities. Seene and allowed Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1580 (1580) STC 11456; ESTC S102737 146,770 222

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