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A84000 Englands second alarm to vvar, against the Beast. Saul, with his Edomite has shed blood to his power; he smites Israels city, and destroyes his owne house; overcame his people once, and overthrew himselfe for ever! It relates to what is done now. Grave questions touching the Edomite; his admission to court, and into office there; how it relates to papists now. He has a commission to destroy a city of priests, which he does with an utter destruction. Excellent reasons why the Lord suffered such a destruction to be executed upon Israel then; and why he suffers the same now; and why by an Edomites hand then and now. 1643 (1643) Wing E3047; Thomason E59_19; ESTC R23537 31,766 33

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merrily to the people as he went along by the way and would make them beleeve that he had taken the Edomite to his side and sealed him a Commission because he is affraid of David he tells them more then twice David lay in wait to kill him therefore he tooke the Edomite to his side for who so faithfull as he to defend his master from Davids violence a poor-hunted Partridge or a more Right handed man to execute his masters command against David True it was David never durst stand to it till hee came to Keilah and there had not the Inhabitants proved themselves ingratefull and treacherous he had guarded himselfe and fenced his throat and hazarded Sauls But Saul feared David no more then the Birds of Prey a hunted Partridge that is the expression And kill David that was his charge There is one doubt more and occasions another question Was this Edomite singular or plurall Qu. The singular number sure Doeg was but one But let us note Ans that One is mentioned sometimes not to exclude a second but to imply the first chiefest in place and so more mighty and principall then the second because of his place as Iehoram is said to compell Iudah to commit fornication When Athaliah was as masculine and imperious yea as mischievous that way and yet not named in that verse because shee acted by power from her husband not so cleare to every mans eye And so Doeg the Edomite is mentioned single as if he did all because the chiefest in favour with his King The meaning of the question then is Was there but one Edomite imployed in that war or were there more There were more sure Ans for it is not imaginable that Doeg alone could destroy the City of Priests men women and children there doubtlesse there were more Edomites there or bastard Israelites as Right-men for Sauls service as the word is if men can be Right who are the seed of the Crooked Serpent as Doeg was Nay it is probable there were many in Sauls Camp Right-men Edomites I meane of that generation for thus it is When a Doeg is entertained at Court is favoured there he will work for his Country-men what he can and according to his power that they may have place and respect thereabouts that they may be of use and service when the King shall rise-up against David One question more with a resolution touching the Edomite Saul his master has entertained him Qu. Is there no meanes to be taken whereby he may be made a faithfull servant to Israel No Ans by no meanes What! Qu. not possible to make him a Right-man No Ans not to Israel but to Sauls service he will be right and straight Me thinkes Israel might have dealt with him Qu. as we with Papists bring him to Church might they not have done so Yes Ans and to no purpose at all for he will goe to the house of Abimelech himselfe that is to the Church as we too commonly call it and a mischievous person though he be yet he will sit there close to his solemne service and pretend there he has a vow upon him you cannot worke upon him that way to make him Right for Israel Then try him another way Qu. give him as we to the Papists the Oath of Allegeance sweare him faithfull to God and his King an Oath is a sacred band that will binde him to Israel sure will it not an Oath I meane such a sacred Band Hang him Ans for like the possessed man no Bands will hold him he will breake all Cords such a childe of Belial is he except one and that the Hangman must pluck-up-close to his neck then turne him downe for by no meanes can you make an Edomite stand right to Israel This is very sutable to the time But for the first Questions How farre the Kings power reacheth for the choice of his owne Ministers I leave as in manners I ought to the determination of the High Court which is this That the King must choose such Ministers as his good people may confide in and by no meanes such who are sworne enemies to the peace of the King and prosperity of the Kingdome A mans private judgement may be steeped in his affections he may cleave more in love to a private person then to a whole Kingdome and in choice of persons to places he may stand byassed to his owne will and ends which All Israel a Parliament there cannot doe Therefore it is against the knowne lawes of Israels Kingdome That Israels King should by himself alone make choice of Persons to high place there for it is against the SUPREME LAW the welfare of the People And Saul taking that liberty against that knowne Law had destroyed the Cities of Iudah and had slaine David too had not the Lord interposed His Almighty Arme. To the other which I should not make a question whether by any meanes a Papist may be made serviceable to Israel It is Answered as before by no meanes which man can use You cannot change the Ethiopians Skin not the Leopards spots Ier. 13.23 He will goe to Church as the Edomite to Abimilechs House and yet be mighty to doe mischiefe You may sweare him to the King and Kingdome Bind him with that Sacred Band he will bee willingly bound for he was a reservation Or if you presse him hard hee is informed very well That he cannot be bound to Heretickes as he cals them in any bands you may put bands upon him he will beake them as easily as you can breake burnt Flaxe The Doctrine of his Church and her Lawes written in blood doe absolve and set free This Child of Belial from all bandsand at liberty to doe all manner of mischiefe And so he has done and it is the very purpose of his heart to doe according to the Power in his hand All the mischiefe as his manner is to Israel being the fruitfull Parent of all the Rebellions Treasons Massacres and so forth for there is no end That have beene acted thorow the Christian World as at this day You may then proclaime them Traytors to the Peace and Crowne of the King and Kingdome for so is every Papist said a great States man in our Kingdom holding to the Tenets of the Romish Church Traytors in hand or in heart in action or affection And so said Luther of himself once an Aug. Moncke and of all his fraternity or Brother-hood there Wee are all Men of Blood * Nemo nostrum non erat vir sanguinum si non opete tamen corde Abhorrebam vel ipsum Nomen W. Hus in Galas Cap. 1. p. 15. sayes hee wee hate a true Protestant such an one as Iohn Huss with our heart and we will presecute him with our hand to the death We abhorretheir very Name we would not have a man of that profession to live upon the Earth so