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A87816 An answer to a brief discourse concerning singing in the publick worship of God in the Gospel-church, by I. M. 1690 Knollys, Hanserd, 1599?-1691. 1691 (1691) Wing K703C; ESTC R227257 4,987 18

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AN ANSWER TO A Brief Discourse CONCERNING SINGING In the publick Worship of God IN THE GOSPEL-CHURCH By J. M. 1690. LONDON Printed for the Author H. K. 1691. Beloved Brother THe Apostle James saith Chap. 5. v. 19.20 Brethren if any of you do err from the Truth and one Convert him Let him know that he which Converteth a Sinner from the Errour of his Way shall Save a Soul from Death and shall hide a Multitude of Sins I have read your Little Book which you gave me concerning Singing And now after Prayers to GOD and Serious Consideration of what you have said therein I return you this Brief Answer which I do intreat you to Consider So I remain Your Brother In our Lord JESUS CHRIST H. K. AN ANSWER To a Brief Discourse Concerning Singing c. THE Subject that you intended to treat of expressed in the Title page of your Book is Singing in the Publick Worship of God in the Gospel-Church That is say you pag. 5. lin 1 2 3. The Primitive and Apostolical Church your words are these spiritual and vocal Singing was used in the Primitive and Apostolical Church of Christ is undeniable You also confess in your first 5th pag. lin 28 29 30. That Vocal Singing Coloss 3.16 is there to be understood c. And in your second 5th pag. lin 20 21 22. Intelligible Singing say you for teaching and admonishing others cannot be without the use of the Organical Instruments of the Voice I beseech you my Beloved Brother to consider that Singing in the Publick Worship of God in the Apostle's daies was not only used and practised as you have confessed again and again but Commanded by the Apostle Paul Col. 3.16 where the word Let hath the Force of a Commandment of God as Eph. 4.29 Phil. 1.27 Eph. 5.33 Jam. 5.13 Read the words especially consider what you say concerning Women 1 Cor. 14.34 Let your Women keep silence in the Church And 1 Tim. 2.11 Let the Women learn in silence with all subjection Pag. 21. line 12 13 14 15 16 17. read your own words You say p. 5. lin 5. But the Question is Whether David's Psalms or any Human prescribed or precomposed Matter may or ought not to be vocally sung by all the Church together as part of the publick constant and ordinary Worship of God instituted in his Gospel-Church You had done fairly to have put this your Question in the Title Page of your Book but there is not one word of it there except what you have confessed and granted again and again as I have already noted out of divers Pages of your Book And so I proceed to offer something to your serious consideration about the Essence or Being of Singing Which you say consists in an Inward Spiritual Exercise of the Soul or Mind of Man p. 5. lin 24 25 26. And this must be granted say you No Brother You must not take it for granted until your Reasons or Arguments be examined which you bring to prove it You affirm p. 6. lin 9 10 11 12. That the Scriptures do clearly witness That the Essence of Prayer and Praises and of Sin do all consist in an inward Exercise of the Soul and Spirit And from thence you conclude That the Essence or Being of Singing consists in the inward Spiritual Exercise of the Soul or Mind of Man If you consult with any Logician he can shew you the Weakness of your Consequence in this Argument Now the Essence or Being of Singing in the Church of God unto edifying consists in the Voice as well as in the Soul or Mind of Man Page 16. lin 16 17. you say right pag. 9. lin 9 10. We find in Scripture another kind of Singing 1 Chron. 16.32 33. Psal 65.13 that is the Virtual or Metaphorical Singing of the Creatures But there is no other kind of Singing in the Publick Worship of God in the Gospel-Church unto edifying without the Voice You should have put the Voice into the Essence or Being of this kind of Singing The natural kind of the Singing of Birds and of little Children is not without Voices and Organical Instruments of the Voice You have neither Scripture nor sound Reason for your Opinion about Singing without the Voice unto edifying in the Church of Jesus Christ You bring a Scripture to prove Silent Singing in the Church 1 Cor. 14.26 27 28. All I need to say in answer to what you have said p. 7 8 9. is to shew you that you are mistaken in the Mind of Christ and his Apostle in that Scripture The Apostle mentioneth divers Gifts ver 26. a Psalm a Doctrin a Tongue a Revelation an Interpretation Then he exhorted them saying Let all things be done to edifying and ver 27. If any Man speak in an unknown Tongue let it be by two or at most by three and that by course and let one interpret but if there be no Interpreter let him keep Silence in the Church What is this to silent Singing in the Church any more than if you had brought it to justifie the silent Meetings of them called Quakers Then p. 8. l. 20 21 c. say you What can be more plain than that Singing and other Gifts of the Holy Spirit have their Essences in our Spirits wherein we are capable of worshipping God acceptably without the verbal and vocal Instruments of the Body O my Brother I know you are not one of them that approve of silent Meetings who supposing that they have a Light within them whereby they are capable to worship God acceptably without his Gospel-Ordinances of Baptism the Lord's Supper and Singing without verbal and vocal Instruments in their Silent Meetings In a word This unsound Opinion of yours will lead you and others of the same mind into some Erroneous Principles of them called Seekers Quakers and such as are for Non-Churches if God do not prevent by his Holy Spirit and Grace or restrain The next Particular you treat of is David's Psalms p. 9 to p. 15. where you labour to prove That David's Psalms ought not to be sung in the Churches of Christ in the days of the Gospel I have proved that the Apostle Paul commanded the Saints and Faithful Brethren in Christ Col. 1.2 to sing Psalms Col. 3.16 that is David 's Psalms Read those Scriptures Luk. 20.42 24.44 And David himself saith in the Book of Psalms The Lord said unto my Lord sit thou on my right hand And he said unto them These are the words which I spake unto you while I was yet with you that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and in the Psalms concerning me Acts 1.20 13.33 For it is written in the book of Psalms Let his habitation be desolate and let no man dwell therein and his Bishoprick let another take God hath fulfilled the same unto us their Children in that he hath raised up Jesus again as it is also