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woman_n	keep_v	let_v	silence_n	1,652	5	9.6134	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86599	An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop.	Houghton, Aylmer.	1658 (1658)	Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689	240,876	351

not shall be damned Mark 16.16 which yet you understand onely of persons of understanding c. as 2 Thes 3.10 pag. 62. your answer there answers this here 4. Your Consequence is denied with your Reason for though Infants whiles such cannot brin forth visible fruit yet they may have some invisible fruit as to man but not to God by virtue of their Regeneration in which estate if they die God is glorified in their salvation 5. The Similitude you bring clears the truth For as the tender branches of a Vine are not presently cut off though for the present they bring forth no fruit so neither little children the tender branches of the Church but some time is allowed to grow till the season of fruitfulness comes and not till then are they to be judged by men worthy to be cut off If God cut off some in their infancy he may do as he please gathering his Elect who if they lived to years would certainly have brought forth visible fruit into heavenly glory and so glorifying his mercy and leaving the vessels of wrath to their dead condition and glorifying his Justice on them 6. Christ doth not here * Joh. 15.2.7 speak of or to Infants who cannot you say understand hear or speak neither can they pray but to his Apostles who were not Infants as you truly say p. 64. as appears from the 3. verse to the 22. but specially he sheweth who are the branches expresly verse 5. Yee are the Branches 7. It is too narrow for you to expound words by commandements for promises and threatnings were to abide in the Disciples I trow as well as commandements verse 7. 8. The absurdity you talk of follows unavoidably upon your own premisses you may look on it as a brat of your own begetting SECT 2. H. H. Second Argument from Acts 8.1 4. There was a great persecution against the Church which was as Jerusalem and they were all scattered c. except the Apostles c. And they that were scattered went every where c. Reply This Argument as propounded by you is almost as mishapen as the former therefore for brevity sake I past by diverse things there spoken onely 1. Your Argument concludes as if there were no Infants at all in the Church at Jerusalem which is very improbable x) Acts 2.4 considering the many thousands which were converted 2. As it is not said All they that were scattered abroad did preach but they that were scattered ver 4 so the word Every where is not in the original though our English translation so reads neither doth the text say And as you do But Therefore 3. By the Church is not meant the community or society of the faithful but only the Church guides or Church-officers 1. Because it 's said verse 3. Saul made havock of the Church And 2ly because express mention is made y) Acts 11.22 of the Church in Jerusalem notwithstanding that storm of persecution 3ly Because it 's said verse 1. Except the Apostles Now the Particle translated here Except and el● where z) Mark 12.32 Joh. 8.10 Acts 15.18 But with the Genitive case is Exceptive of the like kind And indeed to what purpose should the Aposties stay at Jerusa lem amongst Wolvs if all their flock were fled must they officiate and preach to the walls Their staying then at Jerusalem would have been perillous to themselvs and useless to others if all the Church simply had been scattered having none to preach to or over-see 4ly Because that phrase a Preaching the Word is in the original no wher 's used but of such as were in office 5ly Because of the instance given verse 5. Then Philip c. not Philip the Apostle he was excepted verse 1 but he that was numbred among the Deacons Acts 6 5. and expresly called an Evangelist Acts 21.8 6ly Because Women should preach also for women were scattered as well as men To this last you answer anon by prevention In the mean time I must tell you that by the Church is meant Church-officers as it 's certain your consequence is very lame therefore SECT 3. H. H. p. 64. Though the Ministers in our daies would have neither women nor men preach but themselvs yet women did prophecie 1 Cor. 11.4 5. Acts 21.9 2.17 18. with 1 Cor. 14.3 Therefore women may preach provided they be gifted and do not usurp authority over the men 1 Tim. 2.12 Reply 1. It 's well you will own us at last for Ministers whom all this while and after too you scornfully call Priests I commend you for it 2. You do meerly calumniate us for we would have none preach in publick ordinarily and constantly but such who are ordained c by the laying on of the hands of the Presbyterie e) 1 Tim. 4.14 with 5.22 Tit. 1.5 in a regular way 3. By Prophecying in 1 Cor. 11.4 5. is meant singing in and with the publick Assembly as in 1 Sam. 10.5 and they shall prophecie their instruments argue what kind of prophecie this was viz. praising God with spiritual songs but specially thrice in 1 Chron. 25.1 2 3. where prophecying is expounded by giving thanks and praising the Lord. Now what a poor Argument is this Women did then sing therefore they may now preach 4. By Prophecying in Acts 21.9 is meant the fore-telling of things to come e) Numb 22.28 30. with 2 Pet. 2.16 Jude ver 11. by the extraordinary work of the Spirit as d) 2 Chron. 34 22. Huldah the Prophetess It is not warrantable or prudential to make an ordinary rule of an extraordinary act E. gr Because Balaam's Ass did speak must we expect that other Asses should speak too The same is to be understood of Acts 2 17 18. which prophecy of Joel is said then to be fulfilled ver 16. 5. What an absurd ridiculous gloss do you make on 1 Tim. 2.12 To speak in in a Church-assembly by way of teaching and instructing others is plainly held forth as an act of superiority which did not belong to Women because that sex was to be in subjection ver 11. And if a woman might teach with your proviso how is or should she be in silence which words you slily left out verse 12 Nay in that very chapter which you bring for the meaning of the word Prophecying if you had lookt further you might have found Let your women keep silence in the Churches for it is not permitted to them to speak c. 1 Cor. 14.34 Again if they preach why not baptize too He that is half-blind may see how cunningly you would bring in Popery But it may be you have been so wonted to Curtain-lectures that in a manner you have been cudgeled into this belief that Women may preach So that all may see the objection is sorrily answered by you SECT 4. H. H. Third Argument from 1 Cor. 1 2 10 12. Infants cannot understand nor speak c. Therefore no Church members