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A44802 One of Antichrists voluntiers defeated, and the true light vindicated. In answer to a book called Ignis fatuus, published by one R.I. Wherein he vindicates Edward Dod and Samuell Smith (of the county of Salop) in their lyes, folly, and wickedness, and hath added more of his own, with divers of his false doctrines, lyes and slanders, &c. brought to light, and reproved: As that the law of the spirit of life, is imperfect, and not fit to be a Christian rule, and also, humane nature may be taken for the regenerate part of man, and the soul, &c. And likewise calls idolatry, civillity, and heathernish complements courtesie. His vindication made voyd, and his weapons broken, and he taken captive, and left with E.D. and S.S. among the slime pits of Siddim near Sodom, with his Ignis fatuus. / By F.H., a witnesse to the perfect law, of the spirit of life. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1660 (1660) Wing H3175; ESTC R16812 30,660 33

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the Law then how is it that R. I. would straiten or lessen the effusion thereof under the Gospel for there was Daughters that prophesied under the Law and many Sons that spake by the Spirit of God but now all must be confined to the letter and your Pastors now hath far lesse of the Spirit if any at all who speaks from the strength of naturall parts and denyes the unerring Spirit and so shuts up the Kingdome of Heaven against men And R. I. is so grieved at this infallible Spirit or this spirit of prophesie that he cannot endure that a Daughter should prophesie or speak by the Spirit of God in the assembly of the Saints and the main stresse of his or all their arguments is the 1 Cor. 14. 34. Let your women keep silence in the Church for it is not permitted for them to speak and if any woman speaks in the Church it contradicts the Spirit and though they have a gift they ought not to improve it in a disorderly way Answer That which hath been said in this perticular unto E. D. is sufficient to them whose eyes God hath opened but this R. I. is one of the evil beasts that the Apostle speaks of whose mouth must be stopt And so I further say that the Apostle writ to the Church of Corinth which were beleevers which few will deny but that it consisted both of men and women and he expressely saith ye may all prophesie one by one and furthermore if a woman prophesie with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head so that it is manifest that thee was women did prophesie and also laboured in the Gospell but saith R. I. that was but in a private way or amongst some few this had been lawfull or orderly in R. I. his account and if she might speak to two or three or twice three it may be as there is in many houses is not this call'd a Church and doth not Christ say Where two or three are gathered together in my name I will be in the middest of them Moreover was not that a Church which was in Aquilla and Priscilla's house 1 Cor. 16. 19. and was not Priscilla a Daughter that did prophesie what must Priscilla goe out of her house in which was the Church if she had any thing to speak by the Spirit was it lawfull to speak without doors and not in the house and if she might speak in her house then she spoke in the Church and R. I. would have said she had contradicted the Spirit of God and is not Christ one in the Male and in the female and is not male and female both one in Christ Jesus is Christs power and the Spirits authority any whit lesse efficacious or powerfull when he speakes in the female or is it the sects only that addeth or diminisheth from the authority of the Spirit thou ignorant man who art voyd of the knowledge of God and was not Mary a woman and did not she preach Christs Resurrection to the Disciples and were not they the Church but this is like will not satisfie R. I. his unreasonable mind who doth not beleeve that a woman may prophesie or speak in the Church for this would contradict Pauls saying not at all I grant Pauls words to be true this was spoke occasionally to one Church concerning them that were unlearned and untaught of the Spirit that usurped authority over the man and such as was disorderly whose spirit was not subject to the Prophet and what must this be a binding example as to quench the Spirit and limit the Lord from generation to generation as to binde or limit them who are in subjection to their husband and who usurped not authority for it is one thing to have authority and another thing to usurp authority now they that are come to feel the power of God and thereby be moved to speak the power gives her authority but she that is not in the power neither doth feele the motion of the Spirit such a one usurps authority and is unlearned and such and they only were prohibited by Paul and no other for if it had extended unto all then the women before mentioned had been transgressors and likewise further for the satisfaction of all Anna a prophetesse the Daughter of Phanuell of the Tribe of Aser she coming into the Temple gave thanks unto the Lord and spake of Christ unto all them that looked for Redemption in Jerusalem and that was in a publick place and in a publick congregation Luk. 2. 36 37 38. And last of all if E. D. and R. I. will not confesse that the meeting neer Cond in which the women spake was a Church which F. H. justifies then E. D. and R. I. hath lost their cause and wrangled about nothing and the thing proved against them both viz. That a woman declaring speaking or prophesying by the Spirit of the Lord and in the authority of God is a lawfull and a commendable and a justifiable act in the sight of God and all the children of light And therefore cease your foolish clamour and let no such ignorant stuffe come in print again lest your folly be more and more made manifest and the stone fall upon you which will grind you to powder The next thing which R. I. quarrells about is a lye which Edward Dodd asserted that some of the Quakers should say they were equall with God unto which F. H. replyed and said he that hath the Spirit of God is in that which is equall and he that is joyned to the Lord is one Spirit there is unity and that unity stands in equallity and these expressions saith R. I. offers violence to God and his glory Answer This R. I. is so in love with the spirit of errour for he hath denyed the infallible Spirit and is in such love with an unequall spirit that he cannot endure to here that any should be joyned to the Lord in an equall Spirit and so quarrells with plain Scripture and saith it doth violence to the Majesty of God the Spirit of the Father and the Spirit of truth is an equall Spirit and them that are led by it and are in it are in that which is equal and so are joyned to the Lord and are neerly related to him but that I said or any other that the creature is equal to the Creator in power or in glory is false and a lye and let E. D. and R. I. know that 〈◊〉 are for the lake R. I. saith Christ is glorified in his humane nature and humane nature and flesh may be understood of the regenerate part and humane nature may be understood both of soul and body and this may confute F. H. that doth contend against humane nature and goes on and tells another lye as every page is fild with some and saith F. H. saith Christ hath no real body Answ. This man speaks out of thick darkness and intrudes into those things he hath not seen being vainly