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A32768 Ecclesiasticum, or, A plain and familiar Christian conference concerning gospel churches, and order for the information and benefit of those who shall seek the Lord their God and ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward ... Chauncy, Isaac, 1632-1712. 1690 (1690) Wing C3751; ESTC R23991 70,072 162

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be imposed upon in this kind 3. This power naturally grows up with and is inseparable from all free societies gathered by mutual consent unless they be limited by their Charter in this kind or be so false to themselves and successors to give away their Priviledges as many have done to Antichristian and Usurping Powers 4. Thus you see Officers were chosen by common suffrage Act. 1.23 ch 6. Act. 14.23 it should be read that when they had constituted Elders by common suffrage or lifting up of Hands in every Church so that it was the usual way The Apostles or their substitutes one or more might be present to encourage or direct but the People ordained by choice Phil. Doth their Power reach to call whom they will into Office Christ 1. So as he be qualified for them and the Office they call him to as the Holy Ghost requires they are to be very observant of the rule of the Gospel for that is their Charter by which they associate and by which they do act 2. They are hereby limited to chuse men out from among themselves Act. 6. Phil. But what if as yet they have none duly qualified among themselves Christ They may then invite qualified men that can be spared from other Churches with the leave of the Church or Churches from whence they invite or call them Phil. Doth such an invitation or call of one that is a Member of another Church or Non-Member to any Church make an Officer Christ No it is but in order to the making such an one an Officer for he must be incorporated as a Member before he can be chosen and constituted an Officer It is so in all civil societies of the like nature an Office is Power and Priviledge which none can enjoy in any society but the Members thereof unless he come to it by force or usurpation Phil. How many may be a sufficient number to begin a Church Society some say two or three agreeing in this kind is a sufficient number from Mat. 18.19 20. Christ They misunderstand the place who say so for the two or three there may be understood of Women as well as Men and are capable of performing the Duties which our Saviour there intends But the Holy Ghost allows them no Office unless of Deaconesses no ruling Office or Power of suffrage in Election and therefore if all of them be such or but two or one they cannot constitute a Church for the ends Christ hath appointed it It 's plain the words of our Saviour they are only to encourage a Church Duty and the regular gradual proceeding therein in case of private offences arising between Brother and Brother And promiseth his Presence with And Blessing upon the smallest number that are found to exercise themselves in agreement to perform any duty required of them in their capacities for the Honour of Christ and in this case for the Restoration of a fallen Brother See Cottons Way As for the exact number that may begin a particular Church the Holy Ghost hath left it indefinite only it is easily to be supposed that spiritual reason and Christian discretion must be our guide that there be such a number as is consistent with the Nature of the thing the greater the better And that we begin not a Church with so small a number as may render the institution of Christ absurd and his Obedience unto his commands therein impracticable Phil. I perceive then you allow not women any power in the Church they are members and incorporated in the same body by mutual obligation to Communion with the Brethren why have they not equal power with them Christ Women are members and very useful and profitable many ways in their Graces and Gifts and capable of performing any admonition between one another according to Mat. 18. for it belongs to mutual watch required of all members indefinitely But our Lord Jesus Christ hath excluded them from all acts that are not suitable to their Sex in respect of Modesty and the state of Subjection that they placed in to the man 1. They are not Ministerially to teach nor speak authoritatively 1 Cor. 14.34 Let your Women keep silence for it s not permitted to them to speak but to be under obedience Not but there may be occasion for a Woman to speak in way of obedience as to speak in answer to Questions asked her as at admission to answer in giving a reason of her Faith when asked in case of offence to answer for her self if accused or to witness for or against another But to do any ministerial act in teaching or to speak in the management of any act of power or judicial proceeding it belongs to the men and not the women 2. They may not exert any power of the keys so much as by publick giving their suffrage or vote for this reason 1 Tim. 2.12 I suffer not a Woman to teach or usurp authority over the man but to be in silence viz. In the Church it 's plain by the Text and Context that the Apostle treats of the Womans carriage in the Church and that it ought always to be in a way of Submission and Subjection not with Rule and Power for such a carriage is Usurpation of that which belongs not to her the Words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is no where else used in the New Testament and seldom in other authors a thing is said to be authentick when it 's legal true and right it 's used of writings when approved and so of witnesses and authority that there is no ground to contradict the one or question the legality and just right of the other therefore this kind of Power is denied to the Woman the Translators render it well by usurping Authority where any assume Power or Authority to themselves that belongs not to them there they usurp it the Apostle saith they have no authentick Power i. e. Just and belonging to them neither shall exercise any regularly in the Church of Christ Phil. I am satisfied that God never intended any ruling Power to Women in any Societies but in Families over Children and Servants and there not over their Husbands therefore not a decisive supream Power unless Providence remove their Husbands But if they should have an equal suffrage with men in civil or ecclesiastick Societies they must certainly then have exercise of Power over the men so far as they carry their share in the Majority But I confess it seems odd that members of the same Body each challenging an equal membership should not have all the same power Christ There is nothing absurd in it at all because Christ hath so appointed and if we look but into natural Bodies to which the Church is compared for there are some members that are ruling as the Head so the faculties of the Brain and Soul and others are ruled as Tongue Hands Feet and the whole Body consents to it and each of them consents that the ruling Power be in the