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A04582 A supplicatyon made by Robert Barnes doctoure in diuinitie, vnto the most excellent and redoubted prince kinge henrye the eyght. The articles for which this forsayde doctoure Barnes was condemned of our spiritualtye, are confirmed by the Scripture, doctoures and their awne [sic] lawe. After that he disputeth certayne comon places which also he confermeth with the Scripture, holye doctoures and their awne [sic] lawe Barnes, Robert, 1495-1540. 1531 (1531) STC 1470; ESTC S110416 207,398 340

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worde is a lantern vn to my fete a lyght vnto my pathys / he calleth yt a lantern and lyght yee and that vnto alle men / Psal 118. and yov calle yt but a story / darkenes / and a thyng of secretnes yee and occasion of heresy how cane the occasiō of darkenes geue lyght how cane a lantern be a thynge of secretnes / how cane the veryte of god be occasyon of heresy Psal 1 the holy prophete saith / blessed is the mā that setteth his delectacion in the wylle of god / and his meditaciō in godes law nyght and day / here saithe the spret of god / that men be blessed / that studdy the worde of god / and yov saye that men be heretykes for studdying of yt / how dothe the sprett of god yov agre Also Ephe. 6 s Paule commaundeth vs to reseue the helmytt of helthe / and the swerde of the sprett / the which is the worde of god / I praye yow to whome dothe he here speke to prystes wonly howe meny of youre prystes dyd he knowe ye was not this pystylle wrytten to the wholle churche of the Ephesians And did not they rede yt were not they lay men / why shall not oure lay men reade that they red Moreouer dothe not Paule calle yt the swerde of the sprett / is it not lawfulle for lay men to haue the sprett of god Or is the spret of god not fre but bound alonly to yov Also S. Iohan saithe / yff any man come to yov and brynge not this doctrine reseue him not in to youre housse nor yet salute hym / here the holy goste wolde we shulde haue no nother doctrine / but holy scriptur / and yov wylle take yt alonly from vs. Forthermore thys was wrytten vn to a woman and to her chylderne and yow wylle that nother man / wyfe nor childe shalle rede yt / but yff we shulde reseue youre prystes in to oure housys / after this rule / I thynke we shulde not be gretly combered wyth them / for there are fewe of them that haue this word / also oure Master Christ saithe vnto the pharesys / serche yov scripturs for in them yov thynke yov haue eternalle lyffe / oure Master sent the pharises to scripturs and yov for byd christē men to rede thē / who had a worsse sprete thane they / yet they iudged better off holy scripturs than yov do / for they iudged to haue lyffe in them and yov iudge to haue heresys in them so that yov be tentymys worsse to scripturs / ● Tim. 3 thā euer were they Also Paule sayth all scripture geuen by inspiracion of god is profitable to teche to īproue / to informe / to instruct in ryghttusnes / that the man of god may be perfyte / and prepared vnto alle good workes / yov wyll not deny but scriptur is geuen vs of god ergo after S. Paule yt ys profitable to lerne wyth and yov say yt ys damnable and good to lerne heresys with S. Paule saithe yt is good to improue heresys / and yov say yt ingenderth heresys S. Paule saithe it is good to informe / and to instruct Ryghttusnes / and yov say to in forme heresys S. Paule saith that the man off god may be perfytt by yt / and yov saye that the prystes alonly shalle haue yt / so that yov play overthwart with S. Paule in alle thynges Also S. Paule saithe / yov may alle interpretate sc●iptur / one by one / that alle men may lerne / alle men may haue comforte / but lett youre wyuys kepe sylence in the congregacion / marke how that alle men may prophesy which S. Augustine dothe declare For interpretatyng scripturs / ergo yt belong●th not allonly to prystes / Also he saith that wemen must holde their pece / which he nede not to commaunde yff they were vn lerned Forthermore he wylle that wemen shalle lerne of their husbondes at whome / how shall their husbandes lerne them yff they be vnlerned them selfe Also Tim. 3 2· s Paule geueth testimony of Timothy that he was lerned in holy scripturs / from his chyldehod / the which were abylle to instructe hym vn to saluacion by faithe that is in Christ Ihesu / here yov not how Timothe was lerned in holy scriptures a fore he was eyther prest or bisshop yee beyng but a chylde the which as s Paule saith / ware abyll to instruct hym / and yov say they be abylle to condeme mē is not this clene contrary agenst S. Paule are yov not a shamed what workes shal Antichrist doo more contrary to christ than these be lette alle christen men wrytte the dedes of Antichrist and they must alle agre in this that he shall condemne scriptur / but that shall he not doo / with out some collour of ryght / ād of holynes / yov cōdeme it hauynge no collour nor no shaddow of holynes / but alonly reason of fleshelynes / ād of starke madnes / thynke yov if the grete Turke wolde reseue suche reasons as youres be / ye and a grete delle better agenst hys makomett / that he coulde rayne so longe as he hath done Nay doutles / ād yet yov loke to be a lowed agenst Christe / the ryght sone of god yee and that of Christen men which coulde not be hard agenst makomytte Mar. vlt. Mat. vlt. Also oure Master Christ commandeth his apostles that they shuld preche the gospell vn to alle creaturs / and as Matthew saithe / that they shuld teche men to kepe alle maner of thing that he had commanded them / Marke that the gospelle / must be preached to alle maner of men not to prystes wonly / the appostles must also lerne men to kepe alle thinges of the gospelle which they can not doo with out they know thē / now yff these thynges that the appostles dyd lerne shulde ingender or be any occasion of heresys / than the holy appostles were occasion by their doctrine of heresys / yee and that at the commā●ement of oure master Christ / what nede the appostles to lerne vs any thynge that myght be occasion of heresy were we not in heresy a fore they came were we not alle disposed of oure nature vnto all maner of myschyffe / and yet after youre lernynge they come and lerne that thing that is occasion of heresy / but of youre consiēs are yov not a shamed / thus damnablye / to blaspheme the heuynly worde of god thus shamfully to condemne godes word thus presumtuously to vndertrede the gyfte of the holy gost yee that vnder the pretence of holynes / and of christendom / as though you did fauore Christ / wyl yov make Christ an auctor of heresy and that vnder the name of holynes / wylle yov by youre holynes / and youre damnable hypocrisy / condēne oure Master Christ / the auctor of alle goodnes