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A03735 The sufficiencie of the spirits teaching, without humane-learning: or A treatise, tending to proue humane-learning to be no help to the spirituall understanding of the Word of God. Written (if it may be) for the silencing of such false and scandalous reports, as have been rumored about concerning this matter; and also for the affording of true information to all such as desire to know the truth. By Samuel How How, Samuel. 1640 (1640) STC 13855; ESTC S104246 42,052 46

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and living on meere almes they cannot brook but they be so farre from working with their own hands for their own necessities as the Apostle requires that the “ Acts 2.33 34 35. Ministers of the Gospell should doe as that they wrest the Scriptures of the Law and the Prophets haling in as it were by the hayre of the head the Scriptures to speake for them and their delicious living faring like Dives deliciously every day wheras the Elders of Iesus Christ should ‡ 1 Pet. 5.1.2 feed the flock of God not caring for it for filty lu●re but of a ready mind But leaving these things and such as these are which declare them to be more sutable for Moses and the Law which tends unto wrath and bondage then such as are Ministers of Christ and made partakers of the liberty of the servants of God Object 1 with the Answer I will speake of some few things that are in difference among them and us You know it is usually objected against us because of our departure out of the ‡ Ioh. 6.68 words of Peter to our Saviour being these Whether shall we goe thou hast the words of eternall life from whence is concluded against us if the text be not perverted that we in leaving them doe forsake Iesus Christ wherin they take it for granted that He is with them and not with those that forsake them wheras the text is cleare to prove that the words of eternall life are in him as * Ioh. 6. himselfe saith also the words that I speake are spirit and life and this who 〈◊〉 but that he that hath the Son hath life he that hath not the Sonne hath not life But let not the text be wrested yet what proofe is here that Antichrist hath the words of eternall life and that there is no forsaking of him and yet all that know wherin the difference lyes know that this is the contraversie and how that these persons thus forsaking goe to Christ and to the word of eternall life seeing that the Lord * Isa 8.16 binds the testimony and seal●s up the Law among his Disciples so that till it can be proved that these leave Christ and forsake the words of eternall life the text must be taken for none other but to be perverted and a vayle drawn over it to beguile the simple Object 2 Upon this same head hangs another great exception against us Where we had our Conversion if we have any if not among them● and so taking it for granted that we had it among them a great outcry is made against us as if we had stolen their gods and done them great wrong and for this purpose this amongst other things is alledged that that Church which is able to beget is able to bring up Answ Now for Answer hereunto it is to be minded that conversion doth properly belong to the * Psal 19.7 Rom. 1.16 1 Pet 1.3.23 word of the Lord Now this word by which we are all begotten is the proper portion of the Church of God as ‡ Psal 147.19.20 Mat. 13.11 1 Cor. 3.22 divers Scriptures declare hence then must it needs follow that whosoever are converted to the Lord those by vertue of their conversion belong to the true Church because as is before said the word is hers and therfore they are to cleave to her and forsake those places where they were converted and that for this Reason because the Lord himselfe is ‡ Psal 78.6 said to count whenas he writes the people that this man was born there that is in Sion the Church of God though that the man were converted in mans account in Babel and Palestina yet the Lord when he counts shall write the converted man to be born in Sion his Church Now all Gods people should count and write as God doth and give Babel no honour at all of their conversion because the Lord doth not give her any and the same thing is abundantly seen in the converts that they are “ Act. 2.40 exhorted to leave those places where they were converted and so they did as the † Act. 2.44 17.4.34 Scripture manifests in many places which might be noted Againe it is to be minded that God himselfe counts all the faithfull to belong to the * Rev. 12.4.5 Woman the Church of God as appeares in the Revelations where the Man-child as is evident by “ Exod. 4.22.23 other places containes all the faithfull even the whole Church of God This Son of God and his Man-child is called his ‡̶ Exod. 5 1. people The like appeares in Isay 66.7 8. where the Man-child is interpreted to be a whole Nation of Children including all the faithfull Now this woman is said to be in travaile crying and if yours be that Church that is in this travaile crying and in pain according to the Scriptures I am content the Child shal be acknowledged yours but if it be in jollity and without sorrow putting the others to pain and ready to cut the living Child in pieces how then can I acknowledge it for the true Mother whenas also the Apostle saith that Ierusalem that is from above is the * Gal. 4.24 Mother of us all and she is not one that gendereth to bondage but to freedome as saith the Apostle and therfore me thinks it appeares that every ones conversion strongly binds him to make speed to that Church which consists of such as are faithfull in Iesus Christ a● being the proper inheritance to which they all belong and to know that all such places as are aledged to conclude otherwise be but wrested and perverted though never so faire a glosse be set upon them for God ever since the beginning hath put enmity betwixt the seed of the Woman and the seed of the Serpent and accursed shall all they be that shall joyne those together that God hath so farre separated and therfore let none of Gods servant stand with one foot on Mount-Sion and another on Babylon least that which is halting be turned out of the way Heb. 12. Object 3 Another Objection against us is brought in the defence of your Ministry a●ter this manner That Ministry that doth the worke of the ministry of Iesus Christ spoken of in Ephes 4. for the p●rfitting of the Saints is a true Ministry but your Ministry you say doth the same worke c. Answ Was it the worke of the Ministry of the Apostles c. to read divine service Church Women Marry and bury the dead and such like services as there are Did the Apostles perfit the Saints after this manner For who knows not but that this is the substance of what your Office of Ministry binds you unto as for preaching that may be dispenced withall and a little now and then may serve the turne Besides as is granted your Offices are not the same there mentioned that Iesus Christ from on high gave gifts unto for