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A61691 Babilons defence broken down and one of Antichrists warriours defeated in an answer to a scandalous pamphlet intituled, The Quaker-Jesuit, or, Popery in Quakerisme : put forth by one William Brownsword ... in which the doctrines of the Quakers ... are more truly stated than he hath stated them ... with a few queries to him concerning those doctrines and practices in which he hath compared us with the papists / by John Stoery. Story, John, d. 1681. 1660 (1660) Wing S5752; ESTC R24118 29,300 41

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daies he said False Prophets should come and should arise and deceive many and the Apostle John he said in his time that there was then already many false Prophets gone out into the world and the world went after them and the false Prophets which Christ prophesied of should come in the last times the Apostles saw were already come and coming in their daies and it was then the last time 1 Joh. 4. and such were they as you may read that were covetous and taught for filthy lucre and through covetousness made merchandize of people and such were they that preached for hire such as these even Wolves in Sheeps cloathing Christ said should come and the Apostles saw were coming in even in their daies and abundance of such as these have over-spread the Christian Nations for many ages so it is not as though the false Prophets were but coming now for that Scripture signifies and plainly saith that the false Prophets and Antichrist did come in even in the Apostles daies and most of the Apostles themselves were Martyred and the Churches of Asia were running into Idolatry and back-sliding from the truth even before the Apostles decease and John in the Revelations he saw what was to come to pass that Power should be given to the Beast and to the Dragon the Devil over all Nations Kindreds and Tongues and that the Martyrs blood should be shed and the Witness slain and the Woman the true Church should fly into the Wilderness and that the Whore the false Church should cause all Nations even the Kings of the earth should drink the Whores Cup and Antichri●t should rule and My●…ery Babylon as a Quean should sit upon Peoples Multitudes and Nations and the Saints Blood should be drunk by the false Church the Whore These things John saw was to come to pass in his time as you may read in the Revelations and since Johns daies within these sixteen hundred years we know they have been brought to pass and fulfilled so the present time is not now as though deceivers were but newly comed in for the Nations of the earth have long been deceived by Antichrist in sheeps cloathing and the Lord is now again gathering People from them so be not deceived in your hearts neither be ye ignorant concerning the times and seasons for its the time of the Womans returning out of the wilderness and she shall be adorned with the same gifts and parts that she had in the Apostles dayes and all shall walk in the light of the Lamb and the marriage of the Lamb shall come and the Devil shall be chained to deceive the Nations no more these things will the Lord bring to pass and we are hapned to be even in the beginning of this time of the Churches returning and the fulfilling Gods promises for the light of the Lord hath appeared and the everlasting Gospel must be preached again through the world and this is Gods promises as you may read in the Revelations Therefore be not ignorant but now consider and let the fear of God be in your hearts for the day of vengeance will suddenly come upon the ungodly and them that are not prepared but wants the Oyl in their own Lamps they shall be shut out and left in utter darkness therefore consider now you have time the day of the Lord is at hand And yet though great darkness hath been over the Nations yet the Lord had his people that is a few in every Nation some in every age that were sincere in their hearts did fear the Lord in Spirit and did desire after him and that were in a measure humble before him some such have been among Papists and Protestants in all ages who have according to their present time been zealous in their way towards God and such have been dear to the Lord at all times who sought after him and suffered for him for their present testimony against sin and iniquity as it was manifest to them and such sincerity of heart in any we never have judged Though we say as for the matter of Government Discipline or Ordinances and as for Ministry the Call to it and maintenance of it all this both among Papists and Protestants of all sorts for the generality of it hath been wholly Antichristian Their Church Government Ordinances Worship their Ministry its Call its Maintenance hath been Antichristian and not according to the example of the Apostles And this we judge even by the Spirit of the Lord Though the sincerity in no man nor amongst any sort of people do we judge yet the constitution of Churches and the Worship and Ordinances and Ministry as it hath stood for many ages both among Papists and Protestants we do judge and deny by the Spirit of the Lord. Much more might be said as in these things but if any of you Parishioners of Kendall desire any further knowledge of these things or to be acquainted with our Principles we have given forth divers Books though they have been rejected hitherto yet the time is at hand when those truthes which we have declared both by word and writing shall be pretious throughout the world And we do not impose our Religion upon people by force of external laws as Papists and Protestants have done by Antichrian power But we do leave what we declare by word or writing to the witnesse of God even in all mens consciences thereby to be approved and though we have been sufferers and yet may for good conscience sake yet we are not ashamed of the truths which the Lord hath given us the knowledge of But in all boldnesse and in the fear of God we confidently give forth our witnesse by the Spirit of the Lord. And as for this our answer it is sufficient to you and your Minister and no more needs be said till we hear a reply and further then it is possible the testimony of truth may be given and I would desire that you and he would sincerely compare this and his together and then judge of the one and of the other even by the witnesse of God in your own consciences Here follows certain proposalls which was sent to William Brownsword about a year ago which are worthy here of Inserting that he may yet answer to these things for he would neither meet me to dispute these things nor give me any answer by writing And indeed it had been more equitable for him first to have answered these things than to have gone and sent forth such a foolish book against us and all these things being compared together I doubt not but some of you may be truly Informed and your understandings opened which is my earnest desire that so it may be unto you and that ye may come to a good understanding and perfectly disern betwen truth and error and true Ministers of Christ and deceivers London the 12th Month 59. FOrasmuch as a Paper I have seen which is given abroad in the Country the
substance of which as the Subscribers say is an earnest and Cordial invitation and free Call to one which they name Mr. William Brownsword to exercise his Ministry at Kendall And now in the behalf of the Parishoners amongst whom this Paper goes abroad to obtain the Subscription of their hands This following Paper am I moved to send to the said William Brownsword and to others of the Inhabitants of Kendall that are of his party for them to consider of it and to compare it with the former Paper and I shall wait expecting his and their Answer I am a lover of your Souls and a friend to Righteousnesse and dayly travelleth in the work of the Gospel to the intent that Sinners may be converted to God and the Saints strengthned in the Faith which gives them victory over the world and I wait for Sions Redemption and for the overthrow of great Babylon that hath ruled over the Kings of the Earth and whereas it is manifest to me that there is a great dissatisfaction in the spirits of people in this Town and Country hereabouts concerning the Ministry and the great cry is who is a true Minister of Christ and who is is not some crying up one man and some another and it appears to me that there is a great strife in the mindes of people about Ministers and Ministry and about the Worship of God and Religion some saying This is the way others saying That is the way and some crying This is Truth and others crying That is Heresie Now to the intent that all people may be satisfied and that the way of Truth may be clearly known from all the false wayes of Error and that the true Ministers and Ministry ma be perfectly known and distinguished from all false Ministries and that the Truth may be exalted over all and all Deceipt confounded Upon these Considerations with that dear and tender love which is in my heart unto the soules of all people but more particularly to the people of this my native Countrey therefore upon these accounts I am moved of the Lord to send these unto thee that thou wouldst meet me in some publick place in the Town or at the Steeple-house where the people of the Town and Countrey may conveniently come together to hear our discourse of these things which is doubtful to them that they may be satisfied as aforesaid and these things I do propose which I do Judge are things which are most needful that the people should be informed in and no Question but the unfolding of these Particulars underwritten by the Spirit of the Lord in sober Arguments may tend to satisfie many FIrst Whether thou canst prove thy Call to the Minis●ry to be the same and by the same means as the Ministers of Christ was in the dayes of the Apostles in the true Christian Churches Secondly Whether the maintenance of thy Ministry and practise in thy Ministry and the fruits and effects of thy Ministry be the very same as was the maintenance and practice and fruits and effects of the Ministers of Christ and of the Apostles in the time of the true Churches before the Apostacy And if these things thou canst prove then he that denies thee and thy Ministry shall be accounted a transgressor and thou shalt be free Thirdly What are the marks and evident tokens of the false Ministers and whether thou canst clear thy self according to the Scriptures from all the signes and tokens of a false Minister and deceiver and wilt thou be tryed according to the Scriptures Fourthly Whether any man without the gift of the Holy Ghost can be a Minister of Christ and of the Gospel and whether through thy Ministry sons and daughters do receive the pourings forth of the Spirit upon them as in the dayes of the true Churches of old and whether the annointing that teacheth all things dwelleth in every member of that Church whereof thou art a Minister Fifthly What the true state of the true Church is at present and hath been for many ages and whether the Church of England as it stood in the time of Prelacy or as it now stands in Presbytery be the true Church of Christ the Lambs wife or who are the true Church and what name of people doth the true Church of Christ go under at this day Sixthly Whether the time hath been or now is or is yet to come that the true woman fled into the Wilderness and what is the Wilderness into which she was to fly and what is the state of the true Church at this time and if she hath been fled into the Wilderness how much of the time is expired that she was there to remain and what was these flocks with which the Dragon did persue her and how was the Dragon in Heaven and how and when was he cast out into the earth And these things with some others which I have to propound being fully opened in the way of a fair and sober dispute may try thy Ministry and satisfie many that are doubting and truth be made manifest and deceit confounded And these things I am willing to travel through in discourse with thee the said William Brownsword or any other that shall accept of the Propositions with the consent of the Mayor and Aldermen of the Town who may preserve the place and people in peace and soberness also provided that each of us on both parts may have full deliberation to speak forth our mindes pertinently to the matter and that each may have silence from the other whilst the other is a speaking and that all fair and sober dealing be amongst us and the fear of God but if these things proposed for subjects to dispute be not agreed to to fall upon then any other particulars which is necessary for edification which may be named by the Mayor or any other sober man in Kendal provided I may propound one thing for another And send thy Answer to this whether thou agree to it or not if thou or any other dost consent hereunto let the time be appointed to be in a convenient time after the date hereof and I shall expect an Answer to this either in agreement to dispute these Particulars or to give me an Answer to the Queries in writeing and I shall wait for an Answer hereof The 12th day of the 12th month 1659. E. BVRROVGH THE END