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A95843 The supreme povver of Christian states vindicated against the insolent pretences of Guillielmus Apollonii, or A translation of a book intituled, Grallæ, seu vere puerilis cothurnus sapientiæ, &c. Or, the stilts, or most childish chapin of knowledge upon which William Appolonius of Trever, and minister of the church of Middleburgh boasts, among such as are ignorant, in his patcht rhapsodies, which hee set forth concerning supreame power and jurisdiction in matters of religion. Against the book of the most famous Dr. Nicholaus Vedelius, intituled Of the episcopacy of Constantine the Great.; Grallæ. English. Vedel, Nicolaus, 1596-1642, 1647 (1647) Wing V168; Thomason E388_5; ESTC R201503 255,312 305

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fitted according to Judaisme Apollonius seeks the like among the Protestants but hitherto for ought I know he hath not found them We should wish surely Par. 1 p. 391 that according to the liberty of the Walachrian heaven under which he is born and educated and accustomed to all kinds of boldnesse he had called a boat a boat and an egge an egge for it is not safe for us to be always in such danger Who will not pity Vzza who was struck dead by touching the Ark only which was not to be touched Was not Sauls fact destructive in daring to sacrifice partly out of feare and partly out of impatience for Samuels long staying whereby he fell not only into the displeasure of Samuel but also of God himself What Prince will not tremble to see Vzziah struck with leprosie for touching that which he should not have touched Quid apud reformates sanctum sanctorum whereby whilst he lived he was deprived of his kingdome and when he died of the Kings sepulcher So then the Stilt-walker will do a most acceptable work if he will hereafter unfold what things in his Church-government are not to be touched I could never yet find the place of holy of holies among Protestants except it be among the Walachrians Apollonius his study where with his Tertullus and other conspirators he is secretly plotting to overthrow the Magistracie of Middleburg and to erect a new Papal hierarchy Though the Consistory be a conventicle of superlative Spirituality there yet it doth not seem to me to deserve the name of the Holy of Holies because the Keeper with Women dogs do familiarly go in thither and then there must be also so many Holy of Holies as there be Churches therefore in this point the Walachrian Judaisme is fallen into a swound Now Levites have no externall sacrifices peculiar except they will have the Masse with Papists Spirituall sacrifices are Almes Prayers Psalms which are called the calves of the lips and the whole reasonable service of God which is commanded as common to all Christians So that we are sure Magistracie cannot be removed from all these by reason of any special sanctity For who will say that it is unlawfull for Magistrates to pray in the Church He may saith the Stilt-walker but not publikely Then sanctity here consisteth in a circumstance to wit the same prayers uttered in private are holy in a common manner but in a speciall manner holy if they be said by the Minister in publike This subtile difference is no where mentioned in Scripture but the Walachrian Levite differs much from old Judaisme their sacrificing was a speciall priviledge not only in publike but in private also for if they had granted to them that were not Levites to sacrifice privately in the temple reserving the right of sacrificing publikely to themselves the Levites had polluted their sacrifices But if it be so sacrilegious a thing for the Magistrate to pray publikely in the Church and like women to be silent why not only is leave given to Magistrates but also to women to sing openly and with a loud voice in the church for this also is a spirituall sacrifice of praise In this surely he seems to prostitute his sacrifices unlesse he will say that this liberty is also taken away from Christians because it is the Precentor whose singing hath the speciall priviledge of sanctity whose tune the whole Congregation followeth but so the Precentor also should be received among those that have the speciall right of sanctity but I think this Mechanical smell will be too Goatish for Apollonius to make him partaker of the authoritative and speciall right of preaching stacte I confesse there is small difference because this man only in of the book sings the Psalms and sacred hymns but the other not willing to be a clerk in the book prayeth there without book yea I believe oftentimes without the Bible whatsoever the Apollonian spirit is able in his heat to some out There are indeed very godly prayers set out by Calvin and other Divines in their Catechisme for this purpose that all the people may be acquainted with them and so may be uttered by one spirit the Pastor going before which use many times the Church in Synods hath established but these things are vulgar and come too neer that strait and bookish spirituality of the Precentors to satisfie the spirit of the Stilt-walker that most servent Zelot This lastly is a wonder That he placeth speciall sanctity in publike prayer when under the ancient Levites Anna Samuels mother Solomon at the dedication of the temple K. Ezek. in Christs time the Pharisee and Publican did pray publikely in the temple I confesse that the busines of prayer hath bin sometimes upon special cōmand cōmitted extraordinarily to some as to Isaac Moses Noe Daniel and Job but this was no Levitical or ordinary priviledge but proceeded from the person whether ecclesiastical or civil as he was most in Gods favour It were to be wished that all they to whom the Magistrate hath out of his bounty given charge to pray publikely may not be only fit to do that modestly but also acceptable to God for their piety for in many there is such a confused babling and such an impuritie in their hands that we may feare lest by such messengers the Church-prayers prove detestable to God I conclude that there was no speciall sanctitie in prayers under the Levites why then should it be under these new Levites He seeks for prerogative in Preaching and saith Praedicatio that it is lawfull in private for all men to preach but in publike only for Ministers for this is authoritative and potestative and by right of the Legat that is only edifying Much more such stuffe he hath devised upon this matter but without Scripture so that here again sanctitie consists in the circumstance much different from that of the ancient Levites for if the High-Priest had placed his special sanctity in this that he entred publikely and by day-time into the Holy of Holies but he granted to the rest of the people that privately and in the night-time like rats they should creep into the holy of holies he had certainly polluted his sacred mysteries This new Levite is no lesse ridiculous who gives leave to Magistrates Lay-men and women to preach privately the same Word but reserves to himself the circumstance of preaching publikely in the Pulpit This circumstance was not of such sanctitie among the Levites much lesse among the Apostles for they would not have been so bountifull as to grant to every one who was fit leave to preach publikely so that they did not forbid women to prophesie with their heads covered if occasion served otherwise let Apollonius resolve me how Paul who elswhere bids women be silent saith expresly A woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head For Paul doth not give charge of that which was never to be if it was absolutely unlawfull for women to
Parker But he is there faulty ●n that he vapours such great matters of his modern C●●rch g●vernemt which he knows to be so corrupted that it may he turly said what the Prophet saith of the worship in his 〈…〉 and thy Wins is mixed with mitter if Apolleni●● should be 〈◊〉 to a feast where looking to drink Theologicall 〈…〉 should receive from his Hoast wine mixed with much water or pisse would he not complaine of wrong done him and of his cheasing Hoast who thrust upon him such stoffe for good 〈◊〉 after the same 〈◊〉 doth this Night-bird cheat Christians 〈…〉 of this corrupted Church government with that 〈◊〉 the Apost●es for his preaching is fallible yea in many things ●uga●orie lying and blasphemous the use of the Sacraments cheifly of the Supper is vendible and serviceable to humane affections oftentimes he 〈◊〉 them to the impure and denies them to the worthie his preaching key is rustie and most unfit to open or 〈…〉 heaven against them to whom God faith in is open and openeth it to them against whom God saith it is s●●t 〈…〉 Key such is he affects is nothing but an incroaching indirectly upon mens fame and estares and the corturer of the conscience in simple and superstitious men as for his legislative power it is nothing else but a spring of novelties childish scruples and feminary of strife or law sutes so that what one approves the other reproves what is ratified to day is abrogated to morrow and so one sute begets another alwayes For because these Walachrian whirlewinds have no certaine starres to direct them or rules of equity and justice which they may follow in working but doe all things at their pleasure so that he shall carry it who with fraud clamours and pertinacie drawes most votes to him hence it falls out very seldome as we see also among Papists that truth and equity prevailes amongst them but rather opinion which depending on the whirligig of mens dispositions and perverse affections with which they boile it s no wonder as experience sheweth if out of this legislative dependencie nothing proceed but what is prejudiciall to the Churches peace directly to the Civill indirectly Lastly their vocation as it is at this day is not only humane but also if the Walachrian be considered as the Stilt-walker useth it it is Simonaicall and defiled with much fraud and perversenesse and to speak freely the Stilt-walker hath no reason to upbraid Magistrates with the carnality of their meanes because he is forced to confeesse that there is no lesse carnality in his Ecclesiastick meanes and indeed in the end and intention of spirituality it yeelds to the Civill which though they use corporall meanes yet there is found in them such as directly tends to Gods worship and mans salvation In the Stilt-walker and such like vermine there is never any direct intent to Gods worship or mans salvation but properly to maintenance worldly honour and a fulfilling of their humours in such as obey or disobey them He scrapes together many things out of certaine circumstances which befell not to the Ecclesiastick but to the Civill power of which if these things be true that he saith he may constitute as formal a difference between the Ecclesiastical and Civill power as he can make between a Crow and a Swan out of their blacknesse and whitenesse yea between one Hen and another for an accident can make no essentiall difference especially such a one as may be common to both subjects The Civil power saith he may be in a child wom●● or wicked man it may bee also hereditary all which cannot befall the Ecclesiastick power hence he concludes that there is a formall difference between both these powers I answer if thence a formall or genericall difference should arise then doubtlesse the Kingdomes of France and England should differ formally because there only men here women also reign so these two Kingdomes should generically differ from the Kingdome of Poland because this is elective and not hereditary but those are successive this fiction should have some shew if hee spoke of such accidents as are not to bee found in Ecclesiastick power but most of them are found in Ecclesiasticks those great Ecclesiastick Levits from whom he is still borrowing his sanctity were they not born Levits and being children they had right to this sanctity Samuel the children of the Prophets Jeremie Christ John and Timothy were not hindred from the Church-service because they were children or as yet very young being furnished with gifts for that service it is not the infancy of yeares but of knowledge and piety that debars men from Church-functions in which how much Apollonius is defective this his unsavoury writing shewes who being now many years a Church-man yet is indeed but an old boy who hath not lived long Seneca but hath been long By the Prophetesses Anna Mary and others it appears that God hath not altogether debarred women from Church-affairs as this trifler perswades but when hee saith that Gentiles and wicked men could perform civill offices well hee saith nothing for in the end of the world many shall say have wee not prophesied in thy name and yet Christ will say to them I know you not Apollonius knowes that there are many preachers who are impious and hypocrites whom notwithstanding hee keeps not off from Ecclesiastick functions why then should Magistrates be kept off he hath much more such stuffe which I passe by as being of no validity His chiefe and most beautifull argument which hee often delights in is this Ecclesiastick power and government is heavenly because it is called the Kingdome of Heaven it is not of this world Mat. 13. Joh. 18.13 2 Tim. 24. ●or Christ saith my Kingdome is not of this world lastly no man that warreth intangleth himselfe with the affairs of this life hence hee concludes that the civill government is altogether distant from Ecclesiasticall because that is earthly and of this world and they who serve the common-wealth intangle them selves with the affairs of this life yea as wee saw before like hogges they should wallow in them alone I answered before somewhat by the way to this fiction now I will more narrowly look into it for both the members of the antecedent is false and fallacious First I deny that visible Churches are the Kingdome of Heaven for then the Church of Middleburg should be Heaven indeed which is False as may appeare by this marke in that Christ saith men doe not marry nor give in marriage in that Kingdome but in that Apollonian heaven of Middleburg there are marriages daily I confesse that in the visible Church men are instructed and taught concerning the Kingdome of heaven that at length they may obtain it which businesse metonymically is called the Kingdome of Heaven but to conclude thence that the visible Church is properly the Kingdome of Heaven or that the things thereof are heavenly is two childish and repugnant
prophesie neither doth he speak of any private speaking at home for it was not required there that she should in that case be alwaies covered Then it is certain that this subtle difference of preaching sanctitie was not known to the Apostles that the Pastor alone should preach in publike by speciall sanctity and authoritatively but not others who did this in private He placeth wonderfull sanctitie in the right of Calling but in this also he deviates from the old Levites they were born Levites and if particularly they were selected to the priesthood or to any office of speciall priviledge this was done commonly by the Magistrates not by the Levites Moses a Magistrate Num. 20.28 made Aaron the High-priest he put on his robes and took them off and set up Eleazar after him There were many famous Priests but God preferred the Magistrate They say that he did this exrraordinarily as a Prophet but this the Scripture doth not affirm but by not shewing the cause of a matter of such importance intimates that this difference is nothing So David did order the Leviticall ministery 1 King 22.26.35 Solomon thrust Abiathar from his priesthood and set up Sadoc in his stead neither was then religion decayed nor is he said to have taken advise of the Levites but this he did of his own authority neither had he done this if he had supposed that in it there was so great danger of sacriledge If then the Levites had no peculiar priviledge of calling the new Walachrian Papist did ill to borrow this from them Of the same nature is their priviledge of Judicature and Censuring which he calls the Legislative power and of the Keyes This also was not peculiar to the Levites but had under God its generall originall from the Magistrates So Moses Deut. 17.9.12 Joshuah David Solomon Jehosophat Josias all Magistrates not ecclesiastick Levites ordained ecclesiastick lawes God gave indeed to the Levites and to the High-Priest power to judge by Moses yet not apart from the Magistrates but jointly with them yea because twice he puts the secular Judge in the last place it is not unlikely that he place the principal right of Judicature in the Magistrate from whom the power of punishing depended So that this new Levite is a plain perverter of Levitical priviledge who under pretence of a Levitical custome goeth about to thrust Magistrates from the legislative judicatory power in Church-matters when on the contrary we see that God by an expresse command hath in point of Judicature joyned the Magistrate with the Levites Nor were the Apostles of any other mind who admitted the whole Church which consisted of Lay-men in all weighty matters of the Church both of Calling Making of Lawes and Censuring Act. 15. so that they gave them power also of Decision which they had not done had they conceived that it was altogether unlawfull for the Magistrate Now rests the right of Administring the Sacraments which with Apollonius is of such precise sanctity that it is to him as Vrim and Thummim or the Holy of holies from which not only he debars Elders and Deacons as well as carnall Magistrates but also the Proponents themselves under pain of sacriledge so that in this he placeth the heighth of his authoritative and potestative preaching which is with the priviledge of administring the Sacraments as he wrote to the English In this fiction truly he hath plainly forsaken the old Leviticall priviledge for in this they had no speciall right seeing the Passeover at first was killed by any one in his own family Circumcision was administred at home by the father Josh 5. 1 Cor. 10. or Joshua the Magistrate did it by publike authority all did gather and eat Manna they all did drink of the Rock that followed them they were all baptized in the sea and cloud These were the spirituall Sacraments of the Old Testament which were common to all nor had the Levites alone any speciall right in these but by processe of time it fell out that the administration of these was solemnly performed by the Levites But this was rather brought in by custome then by Gods law which seems rather to be against it As the Walachrian here forsakes his old Levites so he cannot claim the Apostles for him in this precisenesse in that the power of Baptizing was of lesse esteem among them then of Preaching for Paul saith Christ hath not sent me to baptize but to preach he also thanks God that he did not baptize many How much is this from the Walachrian Divinity Calvin himself out of Austin proveth that presently after the Apostles Lay-men baptized which Christians had not done so quiekly had they suspected that the precise and sacred right consisted in this The like reason is of administring the Supper the precise right of which so far as I can perceive came from Popery where the Supper was turned into an Idol If in the right of administring this Sacrament there did consist so much sanctity and precisenesse as the Stilt-walker feigns the Holy Ghost had done imprudently in saying nothing of a matter of such importance in Scripture but rather the contrary It 's commonly alleadged that Christ instituted the first Supper took bread brake and distributed it likewise the wine Because Christ was Pastor and Doctor of his Church hence they take it for a sure law that none but the Pastor not a Doctor must administer the Supper I have shewed already that this ground of the Stilt-walkers is imperfect and now again I shew it Christ washed the Apostles feet refelled the Scribes and Pharisees objections explained the parables and obscure passages of Religion he prayed for all the elect Must therefore no man but the Pastor wash the Apostles feet refell objections explain the doubts of Religion pray c. Christ used to pray at feasts must therefore hence a law be made that in weddings and feasts none must pray but the pastor If the Stilt-walker too curiously affect this example he will be suspected that he desires to borrow also from Papists this gluttonous Spiritualty among whom it is an old custom that the Pastor should sit down first at the feast and by right of Spirituality sit next to the bride Christ did many things upon occasion which are not lawes for us to imitate except it be expressed that this example is so and no otherwise to be followed which the Scripture in this circumstance never doth no more then that the Supper must be administred at night 1 Cor. 11. or in unleavened bread because Christ did both Besides in that place of Paul concerning the institution of the Supper there is no such thing found but rather the contrary For Paul wrote not this properly to the Bishops only but to the whole body of the Church for he saith that he delivers to them the institution of celebrating the Supper which he received