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The pulpit guarded with XVII arguments proving the unlawfulness, sinfulness and danger of suffering private persons to take upon them publike preaching, and expounding the Scriptures without a call ... : occasioned by a dispute at Henly in Arden in Warwick-shire, Aug. 20, 1650 ... : in the close are added six arguments, to prove our ministers free from antichristianism / composed and compiled by a friend to truth and peace.
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Hall, Thomas, 1610-1665.
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have the liberty of their Gifts and their proper denomination I think ordinary Ministers should give them the right hand of fellowship and place As for any kinde of Prophets or Prophesying in the publike Congregation belowe Ministers and their Ministery there is none to be found in any enumeration of Scripture either in Rom. 12. 1 Cor. 12. or Eph. 4. where we were most like to finde it and therefore it is still with me resolved that the Prophets and Prophesying which we read of 1 Cor. 14. was extraordinary He that believes three kindes of Prophets under the new Testament let him distinguish them Thus he I shall gather up all into a Parallel because Logick doth not please you 1. Tâ—ose were Prophets But our gifted brethren are no Prophets 2. Tâ—ose were Extraordinary Prophets These noâ— Ordâ—nary 3. Tâ—ose had a spirit of Revelation Thâ—se of Dâ—lusion 4. Those could dextâ—rously expound Prophetick Scripture Thâ—sâ— are dextrous in darkâ—â—â—ng tâ—em and some in dâ—nyâ—ng them The ninth Objection Rom. 12. 6 7 8. Having theâ— gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us whether Prophecie let us prophesie c. Hence they gather that all that have the gifts of Prophecie may prâ—pheâ—ie c. A. 'T is granted that they who have the gift of Prophecie may propheâ—ie and they that have the gift of Ministery or Deaconship must do the duty of a Deacon But who are they that have this gift They that are Prophets by Office and not those that have abilities onely as one very well observes and this will appear more fully by the context and scope of the chapter Having exhorted to duties of piety in general v 1 2. he comes v. 3 to 9. to particular duties of Ecclesiastical persons and Officers viz. That they should not be proud of their spiâ—itual gifts whiâ—h in those days abounded but to think soberly and self-denyingly of themselves 2. He sets down a distiâ—ct and perfect enumeration of all the standing Offâ—cers in the Church and exhorts them to discharge the duties of their sevâ—ral Functions v. 6 7 8. These Offâ—ces are reduced to two general heads 1. Prophecie not the extraordinary gift of foretelling future things c. but the ordinary in the right understanding and interpreting of Scripture Under this are contained first he that Teacheth i. â— the Doctor or Teacher Secondly he that exhorteth i. e. the Pastor Under Ministery are comprised 1. He that giveth i. e. the Deacon 2. He that ruleth i. e. the ruling Elder So then by Prophecie here is not meant the extraordinary gift of interpreting Scripture by Revelation without study which were it so yet could it not help you but the ordinary gifâ— of Preaching and expounding Scripture by an ordinary Minister and set Church-Oâ—ficer of which the Apostle is here speaking who must give himself to exhortation and teaching and this is that Prophesying which we are commâ—nded to prize 1 Thes. 5. 20. Despise not Prophesying i. e. Preaching by men in Office by sent Prophets Now let us see what they can gather hence Because Pastors and Teacheâ—s who were Prophets and men in Oâ—fice are commanded to Propheâ—ie and expound the word c. Therefore private gifted persons who are not men in Oâ—fice may Prophesie and expound the Word This is Kneading-trough-Lâ—gick The tenth Objection 1 Cor. 11. 5. Every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head covered c. Here say they were women that did Prophecie Now if gifted women did Prophecie then much more may gifted men â—hus Miâ—â—am Anna and Hâ—lda Prophesie 2 King 22. 14. and Deborah Iudg. 4. 4. and Philips four daughters So Rom. 16. 1 3 7. Phâ—be a servant of the Church Aquila and Priscilla my helpers Andrâ—n cus and Junia of note among the Apostles c. A. Here 's Chalk for Cheese We speak of ordinary gifted men in Office and they flee to women that were called extraordinarily as Miriâ—m Hulda c. As for Phâ—be she was a Diaconess to minister to the â—â—ck and not a Praâ—dicantess to preach or have Peters keys jingling at her girdle Aquila and Priscilla by their private instruction and admonition were {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} adjutores mei my helpers And so not onely men but women should teach their children servants and neighbours the way of the Lord Pro. 1. 8. 6 20. 31 1 26. Act. 18. 26. T it 2. 3. 2 Tim. 1. 5. Yea a woman in her husbands absence and presence too if he be not able may teach her children pray with the family c. As for that place 1 Cor. 11. 5. the words are not be taken actively for womens preaching but passively for their attending on praying and prophesying with reverence and joyning with such as pray or prophesie and going along with them in their heart 2. We must distinguish of Prophecying 1. There is Prophecying which is Preaching and Expounding Scripture and thus say some these women did not Prophesie 2. Prophecying is taken for any publishing and Singing the praises of the Lord in Psalms and Hymns So Psal. 68. 11 The Lord gave the Word great was the company Annunciatricum of She-Preachers and publishers of Gods praise In those dayes after the obtaining of some great Victory the women were wont to sing Songs unto God as Miriam Deborah c. and so the word Prophesie is oft used in Scripture Numb. 11. 1 Sam. 10. 5. 2 Chron. 25. 1 2 3. 3. Suppose I should grant as many judicious Divines do and I conceive it to be the most natural and genuine sense that women in those Primitive times were inspired with an extraordinary spirit of Prayer and Prophecie according to that promise Ioel 2. 28. I will pour my Spirit in those days on my handmaids and they shall Prophe This was their practice but they failing in the manner and abuâ—ing thir liberty the Apostle enjoyns them silence in publike for ever 1 Cor. 14. 34 35. Let Your women keep â—ilence in the Churches for 't is not permitted for them to speak and tels them 't is a shame because not onely against a positive Law but against the Order of Nature In 1 Tim. 2. II 12. he prohibits their publike teaching and that for two reasons I. In respect of mans precedency in his Creation ver. 13. For Adam was first formed and then Eve the woman was made after the man and for the man and therefore for her to take upon her the Office of Teaching or to usurp Authority over the man what were it but to invert the courte and order of Nature 2. From the womans priority in her deâ—ection Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression Adam was not deceived viz. not pâ—imarily he was not first deceived but the woman c. 2. Not immediately by the Serpent as the woman was but by the means of
Age an error it was a Sâ—hism and that not onely Mr. Ainsworths more rigid but Mr. Robinsons more moderate Separation so accounted and censured at all hands Surely then at this day it cannot be warrantable Make the fairest of it an unadvised Separation it is As a judicious and pious Divine in that satisfactory and elaboraâ—e Tract against this sin hath fully proved whose words being so suitable and seasonable to this purpose I could not but for thy good transcribe and with them so fully and clearly expressing my minde I shall conclude I have now finished my work and well-nigh my time together It was far from my thoughts the Lord he knows ever to have published a Tract of this nature but being openly challenged to make it good I fell to study the point and upon perusal of Authors I found that some had done excellently in answering Objections but omitted Arguments which confirm the Thesis Others had some Arguments but omitted the answering of Objections some answer to some Objections others to other some but here thou hast seventeen Arguments to convince the judgement an Answer to above thirty Objections even all that eveâ— my little reading could attain with References to larger Tracts which handle any point more fully Cover all the Solaecisms Barbarisms and imperfections with the mantle of love consider 't was the work of successive hours redeemed from rest and recreations framed in the midst of double imployment besides personal Trials c. If thou reap any benefit give God the glory who hath brought this light out of darkness and the good out of the oppositions of our Brethren If thou see any imperfections defects weaknesses c. as I am conscious to my self of many yet let not O let not the Truth of God suffer through my weakness and failings but ascribe them to me even to me to whom of due they belong I am very well content to decrease so his glory may increase let my name perish so his may flourish let me dye so my Gods honour may live I have enough Now to the onely wise God who hath given both heart and hand will and deed the way and the work be given all praise and glory from Angels men and every creature from henceforth and for ever Amen Amen FINIS Com. in N. T. V. T. Psal. 46. 1 Reg. 28. 27. Job 12. 2. Calvin Opusc. Collyer against the Ministery c. â—p 17 c. Bern. lib. 4. dâ— consider Isa. 35. 8. Heb. 12. 14. Feb. 23. There were three Sermons in a house in the Parish by a Long Cutler a Naâ—lor and a Milner An ignorant and unchaâ—echised person is a fit prey for the devil When men are children in knowledge then they are tosseâ— too and fro with every winde of Doctrine Epnes 4. 14. Levit. 13. 44. Many become iâ— matters of Religion meer S cepâ—â—ks because they would not 〈◊〉 Practicks S. Ward Rom. 1. 21 24 c. Anabaptism Socinianism Arminâ—anism c amee scourges to plague formal Proâ—essors and rotten hypocrites Non est hodiè sciens qâ—i novitates non invenit 1 Sâ—m 4. 18. * Sleid. Comment l. 5. and l. 10. Simpson Hist. p. 443. Spanheim Eng. waâ—ning by Gâ—rmanies 〈◊〉 p. 45 46. 2 Pet. 2. 3. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Rev. 17. Hudson against Ellis p. 259. Briâ—sly for paedobapt p. 9 c. * Vixfas est credere visis Sâ—pè Satan tali in lumine luce nocet Aâ—steed Tom. 1. p. 1392. Baylis's Disswas 2 part p. 36 37. p. 12 13 Simpson hist. p. 443. Bellum rusticorum in universâ— Germania supra 600000 homines sustulit Alst. Tom. 4. p. miâ—i 1998. Sleid. Com. l. 5. 10. Marshals Ser. for Inf. B. p. 6 7. Baylâ—'s Disswâ— part 2 p. 32. Rutherf. again Antinomians p. 10 11. Brinsly Antid ag Blasph p. 14 15. Rutherf. ag Antinom p. 9. 10 Bayly's Dissw p 31. En epulum Diaboli Sic sic glomerantur in unum Innumer â— pestes Erebi Claud. Eng. Warning by Germans wo p. 26 27. * That bloody and abominable War in Germany was occasioned by lewd Anabapt. Preachers of whom Muncer was chief Luther wrot against his murder and â—ischief Sleid. â— 5. Bâ—yli's Dissw 2. part p. 47 48. Baxter against Tombs p. 147 c. 2 Tim. 3. 13. 2. 16 17. Nemo repentè 〈◊〉 turpâ—ssimuâ— Zacâ—â— 11 2. Justiâ—ia peccati 〈…〉 Aug. A me me salva Domine Aug. Calvin Opusâ— p. 470. Vâ—nes Ser. ag Heresie p. 10. Vos dum argumentis prosequor non probris insector quia in hoc abterocâ—rtaminis genere vincere est vinci praeclarè olim Artexerxes rex militi hostem convitiis proscindentio Non ut maledicas 〈◊〉 alo inquit sed ut pugnes Dr. Morton Alterum è Macedonia fugere alterum persequi jussiâ— Culpam pertinaciter tueri cuâ—pa est altera Job 31. 35 36. as Jerome said to Austin Quod signum est majoris gloriae omnes Haeâ—eâ—ici â—e detestantur * Vide Socin. Tract. de Ecclesia Catech. Racoviens c. 21. Thcop Nicolaid in defens Socin. cap. 7. Vide Ruthâ—â—f Duâ— Râ—ght of Presbyt p. 271 the 2. part Anabaptistae omnes sumunt sibi praedicandi offi ium Gajtius p. 20. Vide Hom. Disput p. 111. Mr. Fry though he approve not of this distinction yet he useth it for distinction sake Fry ag Clerg p. 52. a {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} b Prid. fascicul controvers p. 217. Iunius contra Bell. de Cler. l. 2. c. 7. Paul was a man of strong parts great learning and rare abilities yet pleads his Call Gal. 1. 1 Col. 1. 23. 25. Apolloni p. 76. c {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Vide Owen Duty of Pastors and People p. 49. c. d A Synod is Judex judicandus and Congregations are to examine with a judgement of discretion what is sent from them Unusquisque in domo suâ est Episcopus Aug. e M. Brinsley in his Looking-glasse for good women p. 32. D Hall C. C. Dec. 3. Cas. 10. Object Yates Plea for Prophesying pag. 71. 72. Answ. Vide Rutherf. Dae Right of Presbyt p. 281. and 305. Prius distinguendum antequam definiendum Qui bene distinguir bene docet f Mr. Ant. Burges on Mar. 1. 2 3. Dr. Pocklington that Popish â—riest would fain prove Reading to be â—reâ—ching Sunday no Sab. p. 30 31 32 Cum versemur in constitutis Ecclesis in quibus auditur vera doctrina ordinem set vare debemus ut omnia â—iant {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} nam immediatae vocatio Deus tum â—titur cum vel Ecclesia nulla est constitutave olim constituta degeneravit Aretius Prob. par 3. p. 25 Vide Wiâ—â—â—t in Levit. 8. Q. 15. p 132. Pet. Mart. in 1 Cor. 16. p. 452. b. ☜ Laicus tractet spiritualia ex charitate necessitate deficiente Clerico non ratione