Selected quad for the lemma: woman_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
woman_n	church_n	time_n	wilderness_n	1,494	5	9.8942	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85312	Of schism. Parochial congregations in England, and ordination by imposition of hands. Wherein Dr. Owen's discovery of the true nature of schism is briefly and friendly examined, together with Mr. Noyes of New England his arguments against imposition of hands in ordination. / By Giles Firmin, sometime of new England, now pastor of the Church at Shalford in Essex.	Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697.	1658 (1658)	Wing F958; Thomason E1819_1; ESTC R209761	90,499	170

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clear_v 〈…〉_o ordinationis_fw-la proprius_fw-la est_fw-la collatio_fw-la protestatis_fw-la docendi_fw-la &_o sacramenta_fw-la administrandi_fw-la ad_fw-la illum_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la dirigitur_fw-la 182._o de_fw-fr minis_n eccles_n p._n 182._o eundemque_fw-la perpetuo_fw-la &_o infallibiliter_fw-la consequitur_fw-la say_v gerhard_n with_o who_o agree_v the_o stream_n of_o divine_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o n._n england_n for_o though_o a_o man_n may_v teach_v for_o the_o trial_n of_o his_o gift_n in_o order_n to_o office_n half_a a_o year_n a_o whole_a year_n yet_o he_o administer_v no_o sacrament_n till_o he_o be_v ordain_v 55._o sepa_n exa_fw-la p._n 54_o 55._o i_o have_v speak_v more_o to_o this_o in_o my_o book_n against_o the_o separation_n 2._o this_o text_n serve_v not_o our_o brethren_n turn_n for_o if_o so_o then_o all_o those_o who_o the_o apostle_n here_o commend_v to_o god_n the_o apostle_n ordain_v but_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o ordain_v all_o those_o who_o they_o commend_v to_o god_n ergo_fw-la ordination_n be_v not_o a_o commend_v etc._n etc._n the_o major_n be_v plain_a for_o definitio_fw-la &_o definitum_fw-la reciprocantur_fw-la our_o brethren_n will_v say_v but_o the_o commend_v of_o person_n choose_v etc._n etc._n will_v be_v ordination_n by_o this_o text._n no_o for_o the_o last_o word_n show_v who_o they_o commend_v the_o believe_a disciple_n the_o whole_a church_n they_o commend_v they_o to_o god_n in_o who_o they_o have_v believe_v now_o believe_v be_v not_o the_o next_o cause_n of_o a_o person_n be_v ordain_v but_o they_o do_v commend_v they_o to_o god_n quatenus_fw-la believer_n the_o method_n of_o ordination_n be_v thus_o 1._o a_o believer_n 2._o a_o person_n gift_v 3._o a_o person_n elect_v in_o constitute_v church_n 4._o ordain_v woman_n do_v believe_v and_o they_o be_v commend_v to_o god_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d