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A66066 The way to heaven by water concomitated, by the sweet-breathing gales of the spirit: wherein, the point of originall sinne is touched; infants baptisme justified, and how far the guilt of originall sinne, in the elect, is therein ordinarily removed, &c. Delivered in severall lectures at Kingston upon Hull, by John Waite, B.D, and lecturer there for the present. Imprimatur, Jas. Craford, Decemb: 2, 1644. Waite, John, fl. 1666. 1645 (1645) Wing W221B; ESTC R220794 49,203 52

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