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A48935 The good order of truth justified wherein our womens meetings and order of marriage (by some more especially opposed) are proved agreeable to Scripture and sound reason / by an old and true friend to liberty of conscience, but not to disorder, William Loddington. Loddington, William, 1626?-1711. 1685 (1685) Wing L2803; ESTC R21478 11,744 15

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