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A42764 A late dialogue betwixt a civilian and a divine concerning the present condition of the Church of England in which, among other particulars, these following are especially spoken of ... Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1644 (1644) Wing G753; ESTC R15751 28,350 44

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