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A20671 An humble appeale to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Wherein is proued, that our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ, was authour of the Catholike Roman faith, which Protestants call Papistrie. Written by Iohn Hunt, a Roman Catholike, in defence of his religion against the calumniations and persecutions of Protestant ministers. Doughty, Thomas, fl. 1618-1638. 1620 (1620) STC 7072.3; ESTC S116238 58,171 97

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authority they can or may pretend or challenge either to administer Sacraments Teach or Preach or execute any other spiritual supposed function neither can English Protestant Ministers deny it vnlesse they deny the Queenes Supremacie and proclaime themselues to be perjured in the oath of Supremacie which they haue sworne Whereupon they are justly and truly called Elizabethians and ought not nor should not be called by any other name seeing they haue no other Author or Founder of their Religion and Priesthood but Queene ELIZABETH as we haue proued by publike Statutes And this Queene ELIZABETH did not that shee did thinke that she being a woman had Supreme authoritie in all Spirituall things or causes the Scriptures saying Let women hold their peace in the Church 1. Cor. 14. for it is not permitted them to speake but to be subiect Againe It is a filthy thing for a woman to speake in the Ibid. Church Againe Let women learne in silence with all subiection for I doe not permit a woman to teach But desirous 1. Tim. 2. to reigne in this world with whatsoeuer dishonor of God and danger soeuer of losing of her soule and damnation of her Subiects shee tooke vpon her IEROBOAMS Policies to strengthen her selfe against Your Mother So I appeale vnto your Maiesty well pleased to consider the wrong and injustice your Protestant Ministers doe vnto vs Roman Catholikes your ancient Subjects in persecuting vs with the losse of goods lands libertie and life for that we will not forsake the Religion planted vpon earth by the Sonne of God to professe in place thereof a Policie inuented by an Illigitimate woman THE CONCLVSION AND for Conclusion I humbly beseech your Maiesty well pleased to consider that without a true Faith it is imposible Hebr. 11. 6. Iohn 3. 8. to please God Againe He that doth not beleeue the Faith planted by our Sauiour is already iudged And the Iudgement is Get yee away from me yee accursed into fire euerlasting Matth. 25. which was prepared for the Diuell and his angels And presently after this sentence giuen they are cast into Hell which is as the Prophet Isay saith A profound and spacious roome his food is fire and store of wood the breath of our Lords mouth doth kindle the same like a maine Riuer of Brimstone and there bound hands and feete they are placed in a bed of Moathes to gnawe perpetually on their carkasses and in scorne of the pride of life in which they liued vpon earth couered with a couering of Lice as the Prophet Isay witnesseth saying Thy pride is drawne down into Hell thy carkas Isay 14. is fallen the moath shal be strowen vnder thee and wormes shal be thy couering And placed in this wofull and lamentable estate they are deliuered vp into the hands of Diuels who as ministers of Gods wrath power out vpon them Fire haile famine death teeth Eccles 39. Apoc. 14. of beasts scorpions and serpents And the smoake of their torments shall ascend vp for euer and euer Without any hope of ease or any possibilitie for one moment euer to haue their torments lessened for that they shall bee for euer the same as the Prophet saith He loued cursing Matth. 25. Psal 108. and it shal come to him and he would not blessing that with which God hath blessed all Nations of the earth according to his promise and it shal be far from him in all eternitie he shall neither heare or haue any which considerations ought much to moue the heart of your most excellent Maiesty to take pity vpon a number of your Subjects who haue no other Faith or Religion then that which is grounded vpon the maledictions of God and out of your compassion to restore vnto them againe the liberty of embracing the Catholike Roman Faith which as wee haue aboundantly prooued was planted vpon earth by our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ the Sonne of God and there is no saluation in any other And by so doing your Maiesty shall much honour God put an end to all new Sectes establish your Throne as the dayes of heauen bring abundance of peace and quietnesse to your afflicted Subjects and as you haue vnited the two Kingdomes of England and Scotland in one so you shall vnite your selfe and them to God and the rest of the Christian world and be partaker of all the blessings promised to the Catholike Church The meanes is so easie that if your Maiesty please you may do it without infringing any Law by dispensation out of your Prerogatiue Royall with all Statutes made against the Catholike Roman Faith which Faith not being euill in it selfe but truth and verity as we haue abundantly proued the Lawes of the Land giue your Maiesty full leaue to dispence with then all as is set downe in Termino Michaelis An. 11. Henrici Septimo Your most worthy Ancestor Chap. 35. saying The diuersity betweene malum prohibitum malum per se malum prohibitum is where the Statute doth prohibite that a man shall coyne no money and if he do he shal be hanged this is malum prohibitum for before the said Statute it was a lawfull act to coyne money but not after and for this euill the King may dispence c. Euen so if a man ship wooll for other places then for Calleis this is malum prohibitum for it is prohibited by Statute and for this euill the King may dispence c. in like case But malum in se neither the King nor any other can dispence withall as if the King would pardon to kill another or giue leaue to robbe vpon the high-way this is void yet when they are done the King may pardon them So it is if a man be bound by Recognisance in the Chancery to keep the Peace at the suite of another man the King cannot release the duetie for the preiudice which may happen to the other yet when it is forfeited he may well release and before not and so neither King Bishop nor Priest can giue leaue to one to commit Lechery because it is euill in se in the Law of Nature but when it is done they may absolue them very well Thus the Lawes of the Land giue libertie to the Kings of the Land to dispence with any thing which is not euill in it selfe but made euill by Act of Parliament as was the Catholike Roman Faith in the Parliament holden in the time of King Henry the eight Edward the sixt Queene Elizabeth and yourt Maiesty Whereby it is sufficiently manifest that your Highnesse may out of your prerogatiue Royall as well and with as good authoritie dispence with all penallties imposed by Statute vpon your Subjects for professing the Catholike Roman Faith and giue them free liberty to professe it as you may dispence with Merchants freely to transport out of the Realme Siluer Wooll or other Merchandize forbidden by Act of Parliament And the reasons or motiues which ought
God to Dauid saying His seed shall continue Psal 88. 37. for euer and his Throne as the Sunne in my sight and as the Moone perfect for euer Obiect 5. Our Sauiour calleth his Church little flocke saying Doe not feare little flocke because it Luke 12. hath pleased your Father to giue you a Kingdome Ans Little in the beginning after to encrease according to the words of the Prophet Isay saying Iacob Isay 27. 5. shall florish and Israel shall grow and they shall fill the face of the earth with seed So our Sauiour compared Matth. 13. 31. his Church to a Mustard-seed which is the least of all seedes when it is sowen but when it is growne it is greater then all herbes And to Leauen which a woman Matth. 13. 33. tooke and hid in three measures of meale vntill the whole was leauened Obiect 6. In the time of Constans Constantius and Constantinus the Arians so preuailed that there remained no Catholike Bishops but Liberius and Athanasius Answ In their times was the Councell of Sardis where were three hundred Catholike Bishops as is set downe in the said Councell Obiect 7. Our Sauiour saith That many are called Matth. 20. 16. but few chosen Ans He hath called the earth from the rising of the Psal 49. 1. Sunne vnto the going downe thereof So in respect of the number of all people of what sect or sort soeuer the Elect shal be but few yet dilated all ouer the earth as our Sauiour witnesseth when he saith That at the day of Iudgement he will send his Angels with a great Matth. 24. 31. sound of Trumpet and they shall gather his Elect from the foure windes from the one end of the heauen to the other Obiect 8. Our Sauiour saith of the Iewes I know Iohn 8 that you are Abrahams seed and yet saith Yee are of your father the Diuell Ans This place demonstrateth that men are not iustified by Faith only shewing that neither the Iews who were Abrahams seed by carnall generation nor the Christians who are his seed by Faith onely shal be saued without good workes saying I know you are Abrahams seed but yee seeke to kill me therefore yee are 1. Iohn 3. 8. of your father the Diuell begotten of him by euill life Catholikes doe not defend saluation by Faith onely but by Faith and good deeds Obiect 9. Some of the Fathers doe vnderstand by Babylon spoken in the 17. of the Apocalyps Rome Apocal. 17. Ans Tertullian lib. contr Iudeos and Saint Ierome Epist 17. ad Marcellum vnderstand by Babylon Rome as it persecuted Christians and worshipped Idols and not Rome Christian S. Augustine vpon the 26. Psalme Aretas vpon this place Haymon and Saint Bede do vnderstand by the great Whore great Babylon c. not Rome but the vniuersall Citie of the Diuell which in Scriptures is called Babylon and is opposite to the Citie of God which is his Church and by the seuen Hills these Fathers vnderstand the generall estate of proud men as the Scriptures vse saying Euery Vally Luke 3. 5. shal be filled and euery Hill shal be humbled Obiect 10. In our Creede we say I beleeue in the Catholike Church but the things that wee beleeue cannot be seene therefore wee cannot see the Catholike Church but must beleeue it onely Ans Herein consisteth the ignorance of Protestants that in one and the same thing they distinguish diuers acts as the act of Faith and the act of corporall seeing both in one and the same man but doe not distinguish in the same men or things diuers obiects as the obiect of the act of Faith and the obiect of the act of corporall seeing So the things that we beleeue we cannot corporally see by an acte of Faith that is true otherwise our Faith should be in our eyes The thing that we beleeue we cannot corporally see with an act of seeing that is false the Apostles did both see and heare our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ and beleeued him to bee our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ Catholikes can corporally see the Catholike Church but not with an act of Faith proceeding from their eyes and beleeue the same Catholike Church but not with an act of seeing proceeding from their vnderstandings but with an act of Faith proceeding from their vnderstandings and so at the same time though not with one and the selfe-same act both see and beleeue the same Catholike Church But see it as it is obiect of their eyes and beleeue it as it is obiect of their Faith which for the saluation of their soules I wish Protestants could doe Since the same God Almighty and the same Prophets which tell me I must beleeue the Church doe also tell me that it shall be corporally visible according to their descriptions vntill the worlds end and he maketh God and the Prophets lyars that denyeth it Obiect 11. The Protestants yet may hope that the Prophecies may be verified vpon Protestantisme hereafter Answ That were to make Luther the Messias and him and his Ministers of greater power then our Sauiour and the Apostles and is contrary to the promises of God and Prophecies Againe the Prophets do not speake of conuerting Papists but Gentiles to our Lord which are in great part conuerted already and there is no probability that Ministers tyed to women children seruants good fare soft beds commodities of the world and flesh should goe to conuert Gentiles in Africa or America Againe What should they conuert them vnto to beleeue That the God of the Christians hath for fifteene hundred yeares failed of his oath and promises That the Apostles and those men who planted Christian Religion are not to be called nor esteemed of as Saints That Baptisme is not necessarie to saluation That the Sacraments of the Christians doe not conferre grace That the whole Church and Generall Councels of Christians may erre in things that appertaine to God That Fasting and Pennance is not necessarie to saluation That the Masse is superstition That the Romish doctrine concerning Purgatorie Pardons Worshipping and Adoration as well of Images as of Reliques and also Inuocation of Christian Saints is a fond thing These and many the like Articles of the English Creed the Heathen and Pagans beleeue and haue beleeued many hundred years before Luther and Caluin or any Protestant man was borne that held and maintained the same Faith Protestants doe now Obiect 12. The Church of Protestants is farre extended and so in some part the Prophecies may bee verified vpon it Ans Though it were as farre extended as Turcisme yet it would bee inferious to the promises and latitude of our Catholike Church and wanteth the other properties set downe by the Prophets all Heretikes haue possessed some place or Countrey and at this day Protestantisme is but in this corner of the world Thomas Rogers a Protestant seeking out the Rogers vpon the Creede Protestants of other