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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90883	Certaine scruples from the army: presented in a dialogue betweene a minister of the new moulded Presbytery, and a souldier of his Excellencies (formerly new-moulded, but now despised) army. Being the substance of severall discourses, of the souldiers with the ministers in divers parts of the kingdom. Wherein the doubtfulnesse of the ministers new old, or old new calling, is manifested, their compelling principle detected: the practise of souldiers, and others, exercising themselves in the Scriptures, for their mutuall edifying, justifyed. / By one of the kingdomes servants, in the army.	Pounset, John.	1647 (1647)	Wing P3039B; Thomason E390_21; ESTC R201540	20,790	31

laboured with him in the Gospel Phil. 4.3 we see Paul was a man of a gallant free self-denying spirit he did rejoyce if Christ was preached either by men or women he did not feare the eclipsing of his own glory he stood more upon the glory of God notwithstanding he knew some did preach to that end Phil. 1.16 Presb. Doth not Paul forbid women to preach 1 Cor. 14 34. Yea even commands them to keep silence in the Church Sould. It s true in the Church he forbids them but out of the Church he leaves them to their liberty but in the same Chapter he allows all the members except women to use their gifts as ver 1 24 26.31 The next place of Scripture I shall give you is 1 Pet. 4.10 11. the words are As every man hath received the gift even so let him minister the same one to another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God Presb. But the Apostle speaks inverse 9. of Hospitality Sould. It is true but ver 10. he speaks of manifold grace so that if he did mean outward things he meant spiritual things also and ver 11. he sayes If any man speak let him speak as the Oracles of God Presb. But be meant the Ministers Sould. If he did he meant others also for he bids them minister one to another and I hope you will not say that Ministers must onely minister to Ministers Presb. I see you can talke for your self well but wee shall have you talk some where else ere long Sould. Doe I speak any more then the Scripture speakes I have given you nothing else but we may see what spirits you are of that instead of harkning to what the Scriptures speak you fall to your old threatning speech I thought to have given you more Scripture but if this take place in your spirit no better there is little hope to convince you by quoting Scripture Presb. This is a meet vapour I doe beleeve you have produced all you know of Sould. Nay I can give you many more but because our way doth not lye farre together I will onely name the places to you and you may peruse them at your leisore Heb. 3.13 Chap. 10.24 25. Mal. 3.16 Revel 11.3.7 19 10. Presb. Well I will look upon these places when I can attend it Sould. Nay I think you are not greatly over-wrought unlesse it be in seeking after the best Benifice or in seeking for a way and power to kill us for doing our duty Presb. I deny it to be your duty to Preach Sould. But I have proved it Presb. I grant it was their duty which you instance in but that was in a time of need and necessity hath no law Sould. Sir if it was duty for them because it was a time of need then sure it is our duty now for I think there was never a time of greater need for if you should travell as we have done up and down the Country you might see it for the people generally know little more of God and Christ than those that never heard of him and have almost none in many places to inform them better Now after we have hazzarded our lives against our professed enemies and God hath given us them for a prey we are forced to hazzard them againe in the discharge of our duty in a time of such need But we did not look for such measure at your hands But I see the old Proverb is true That a False friend is worse than an open enemy for you onely shewed your selves kinde to us till we had served your turne viz. to bring under the Episcopall party that so you might get into your Lordly dignity and now you indevour our ruine Presb. Farre he it from us to seek your ruine we onely seek is reclaime you from sowing your errors Sould. I shall make the same answer to you as once Paul did before Foelix Act. 24.14 when the persecuting Ministers of the Jews came with their Oratour Tertullus who came to slander Paul before the Governour That after the way which you call Heresie so worship we the God of our Fathers And indeed you deale by us as they did by Paul who after he had been delivered by the marveilous providence of God from the violence of the wicked conspiring Jewes by the heathen Captaine they come on againe with a new designe against him and bring a Tertullus to accuse him to the Governour of being a pestilent fellow a mover of sedition and a chiefe maintainer of the Sect of the Nazarites even so God having wonderfully delivered us from our enemies that you see we perish not by them now you bring your great Orator Tertullus alias Mr. Edwards and furnish him from all quarters of the Land with accusations against us as false as that of Tertullus was that Paul was a pestilent seditious fellow c. and you your selves say the same thing of us as that we are pestilent broachers of Heresie wicked Sectaries and what not and from this you would as you say reclaime us and the way you take is to labour by all meanes to incense the Magistrates against us if possibly you may prevaile with them to cut us off from the Land either by death or by banishment or so it be done you care not which way and least the Magistrate should refuse to yeeld to your wicked desire you have another way to help at a dead lift which is to make your Pulpits ring with out-cries against us that so you may image the rude people to set upon us by some violent assault or other to destroy us But look to it innocent blood being shed cries loud in the ears of the Lord for vengeance against these that shed it as you may see Gen. 4.10 the voyce of thy brothers blood cryeth unto me from the earth saith God to Caint See also Revel 6.10 and they cryed with a loud voyce saying how long Lord holy and true doest thou not judge and avenge our blood and 16.6 they have shed the blood of the Saints and thou hast given them blood to drinke for they are worthy And Chap. 19.2 The servant of the Lord sing prayses to him for avenging their blood at the hand of the great Whore and indeed blood seldome goeth unpunished in this life as I might give you many instances see it fulfilled upon Ahab and his house 2 King 9.7 8 9 10. Chap. 10. 11. so J●●u's house Hos 1.4 Nay you may see how fearfull those Mariners were Jonch 1.14 Of being guilty of innocent blood notwithstanding as it seems they had all-most every one of them a severall God and let mee tell you if you be guilty of our blood it will be with an aggravation for wee as instruments have saved your lives and caused you to sit at home in peace This consideration prevailed with Soul as wicked as he was when Jonathan had said unto him let not the King sinne against his servant