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A66440 The pattern of ecclesiastical ordination, or, Apostolick separation being a discourse upon Acts the 13. 4,5 ... / by Edward Wakeman ... Wakeman, Edward. 1664 (1664) Wing W275; ESTC R5294 23,139 44

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is an Article not denied by any but such who have so far renounc'd their Understanding that they are resolved to hearken to none but their own Schismatical Fanatick Teachers I conceive it more pertinent and of greater concernment and more advantagious to the Fathers and Sons of the Church to clear the Text from giving Patronage to that opinion so magnified of late that the power of Ordination belongs of right to the Presbytery a Position condemned by the Council of Trent Sess 23. can 7. and is but usurped by the Bishop If I would enter upon a discourse of the Bishops Right in Ordination I might tell them It was a very Ancient Usurpation if it be one even within one year after Christs Ascension into Heaven as Chronologers reckon it For we find at the 6. of this book which treats of things done within the 33. year of Christ the Apostles laying on their hands upon the seaven Deacons without any challenge from the Seventy two of being excluded But to keep to the Text It will suffice to enquire by what Title these Prophets of Antioch exercised this Power and so consequently whether their practice be a sufficient ground for this Opinion That it is not the same Power to Ordain a Priest and to Ordain an Apostle is true But it makes the more for them since it is far more plausible to say that Priests have a power to ordain a Priest than that they have so to consecrate a Bishop Some therefore to avoid this say there were Bishops among these Prophets three at least Others say that the Prophets themselves did not lay their hands on them but sent them to the Apostles at Jerusalem and that it was they that layed their hands on them A learned Divine among us with far greater probability affirms they were more than meer Presbyters in that they were Prophets reckoned at the 4. of S. Pauls Epistle to the Ephes v. the 11 in the next rank to the Apostles before Evangelists they themselves being even Apostles Secundi Ordinis if I mistake not his meaning The two former Opinions have no countenance at all from the Text and so I leave them The Last Interpretation though very probable may admit of some dispute since the Scripture seems to evidence that this Spirit of Prophecy which is thought chiefly to consist in Interpreting the word of God by Immediate Inspiration was at this first breaking forth of the Sun-beams of the Gospel communicated to far greater numbers of men than were likely to have any Precedence or Authority in the Church above Presbyters Read the 14. of the 1 Epistle to the Corinthians and you shall find the Apostle exhorting all his Corinthians to desire especially the Gift of Prophecying and at the 34. v. of the same chapter he commands Women to keep silence in the Church implying that They also sometimes had this Gift of Prophecying as we see Acts 21.9 Phillips Daughters were Prophetesses agreeable to Gods promise repeated out of the Prophet Joel at the second of the Acts verse the 17. your Daughters shall Prophecy The result of which will be that these Prophets were rather Inferiour to Presbyters in Authority than above them though perhaps sometimes Fuller of the Holy Ghost that is better enabled by the Spirit for the performance of that part of the Presbyters charge which consisted in Preaching And therefore since we cannot conclude they had the Power of Ordaining Apostles unless we acknowledge them at least equal to Apostles which this Interpretation doth not make good with submission to the Reverend Author or any other who shall otherwise instruct me I think we need not contend for their Superiority above Presbyters but rather be contented with this that whatever they were they did not this by any Power tranferr'd upon them in ordinary no not even as they were Prophets but by Particular Extraordinary Appointment and Revelation from the Holy Ghost For so much St. Luke tells us expresly in the next verse save one before my Text As they ministred to the Lord and Fasted the Holy Ghost said Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them What then will this advantage them towards the grounding a perpetual practice on it Durst the Jews do you think consecrate an High-Priest without those Ceremonies mentioned in the 8. or 9. chap. of Levit. because God himself did dispense with them in the Consecration of Eleazer upon Mount Hor Num. 20 Or Might the Priests presume to use any other Altar for Burnt Offerings than that in the Tabernacle because God for the Conviction of Baals Prophets approved of Elijahs Sacrifice which he offered upon stones that we do not read where were ever Hallowed 1 Kings 18 Why did not They who had so many Judgements denounc'd against them for letting their children passe through the fire make this reply for their Innocency Lord why dost thou lay thine heavy hand upon us Didst not thou command the Father of the Faithful thy servant Abraham to offer up his Son his only Son Isaac for a burnt Sacrifice If the Prophets at Antioch ordained some upon a special command from the Holy Ghost Let not Presbyters challenge to themselves the same Power till they can shew the same Patent for it But If it were absolutely necessary nay only lawful to follow all Examples recorded in Holy Writ and which too perhaps are not therein condemn'd we should quickly dash the first against the second Table and cast off our Service to God our Obedience to the Church and our Love to one another The Consequences would be such as this there were but twelve that Christ administred the Blessed Sacrament unto before he departed this world and they were all Men and his Disciples yea Apostles and it was after Supper in an upper chamber and in Jerusalem together with many other circumstances the least whereof if any omitted would look but of a bad complection There must be no more nor any other now But to the business in hand Without all question it is not over safe for any Presbyters to venture upon the conferring of Orders upon any where there are no Bishops For though Those Churches beyond Sea not to meddle with our Neighbours urge the Example of the Levites executing the Priests Office when the Priests were too few at the 29 of the 2 book of Chron. yet if they did well consider that this was done but till the other Priests were Sanctified certainly they would long before now have provided themselves of Bishops Indeed the Protestant Churches beyond the Seas had Bishops once and where is the advantage which any of them have received by Rejecting them Alass they are so few that you can scarce name any Indeed if Toleration and promiscuous Indulgence of Heresies which are no where so rife as where there are no Bishops be an advantage then Amsterdam is as happy yea happier now than ever it was or any other place can be I find