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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A54224	The spirit of truth vindicated, against that of error & envy unseasonably manifested : in a late malicious libel, intituled, The spirit of the Quakers tryed, &c. / by a friend to righteousness and peace, W.P.	Penn, William, 1644-1718.	1672 (1672)	Wing P1375; ESTC R21576	102,800	151

They were Brethren as being of the same Blood and Fathers as Elders of the Tribes under that particular Constitution Besides both his own and if Married his Wifes Fathers and Grand-Fathers might be then living and either of the Council or concurring with it In short We therefore refuse the style of Master and are very cautious of being in the least lavish in Titles of Worldly Honour because We with Lamentation behold through the Illumination of God's blessed Light the Spoil Cruelty and manifold Evils that Proud Flattering Honour-seeking and Honour-giving Spirit has made amongst the Sons of men who to compass unjust Dominion hath sacrific'd the Blood Wealth and Peace of Nations to its ambitious aims and esteem'd it no small accession to the Magnific●nce of its exploits that almost in all Ages she hath led the Rights Properties and Persons too of Millions as Captives in Triumph after her and through the Gulf of Rapine and Blood lane●t into the vast Ocean of unlimited Power What Impiety is there in the World that may not in some sence be resolved into that of Pride or Covetousness after Honour as its proper Center Mens over-value of themselves and their Displeasure against such as have not the like thoughts of them beget Revenge which taking its opportunity breaks forth into Blood and Murder O! let men learn to dread the Living God and fear all their dayes before him and that will sweep the mind of these vain thoughts and bring it from such exalted conceits and its insatiable Thirst after Honour and will establish it in the Humility and Lovely Plainness of a Meek and Quiet Spirit which is of great Price in the Sight of the Almighty God which because the World is not adorned with but doth both seek and give wordly Honour and Personal Respect whilst perhaps such entertain deadly Hatred against each other and resolve one anothers Ruin for outward Ends we are constrained by the Meek and Lowly Spirit of Christ Jesus our Lord to testifie against the World's Vain Honours and to hold forth an Example to them what they must all expect to come to before they can receive that Honour which is from God And this is that Honest Reason why We of this Age do with Elihu say We know not how to give flattering Titles for in so doing our Maker would soon take us away Thus much in Answer to his Cavills whose Emptiness might have been enough to sound out their own indesert of any but for the sake of the Honest-Hearted I have said some thing enough for the place and occasion If any desire further Satisfaction they may please to peruse a Book entituled No Cross No Crown and the Serious Apology for the Principles and Practices of the People called Quakers pag. 139 140 141 142. which with several others sufficiently vindicate both our Principle and Practice in this particular as also others of the same Nature and tendency His fourth Fling at us is about Womens S●aking in the Church in which point he would seem to Triumph not a little over G. F. Let your Women keep Silence in the Churches for it is not permitted unto them to speak bnt they are commanded to be under Obedience as also saith the Law And if they will learn any thing let them ask their Husbands at home for it is a shame for Women to speak in the Church 1 Cor. 14. 34 35. Here if the Apostle sayes he doth not command Silence to Women by Sex in those cases wherein he allows men by Sex to speak I understand nothing that is written But G. F. pag. 380. sayes Now the Woman here hath an Husband to ask and not usurp Authority over the Man but Christ in the Male as in the Female who redeems from under the Law and makes free from the Law that man may speak c. Now if we may take Liberty to expound the Scripture thus it will be a Nose of wax that may be turned which way we please Besides it seems to be built upon a misreading of Husband for Husbands because Christ who is but One is made the Husbands that must be asked at home So one of your Authors saith But what Husbands have Widdows to learn of but Christ And was not Christ the Husband of Philip's four Daughters and may not they that learn of their Husbands speak then But before I go any further it may be observed how very slight his return is to G. F's Sense of the place and especially that though he quotes another Friends Query on the matter he never offers to give it any Answer and I am really perswaded he was confounded by it However why is it so abusive of the Scripture to say that which the Scripture saith it self Are not the Spirits of Believers properly the Lambs Bride as being the ●●ue Church to which he is a Bridegroom and ●f which he is the Head Methinks he must never have read or at least have forgot what he read in the Scriptures of Truth who denies this If so then why is it Improper or Abusive as he calls it to say that when Mens Spirits of themselves especially in the unlearned State speak it is that Woman which is forbidden to speak of her self since the Context saith that though they may all speak one by one yet it is if any thing be revealed to them which because that cannot be without Christ reveal it whom the Father hath ordained to be his eternal Word by which to declare to man the invisible things of his Kingdom it follows that it is Christ the Bridegroom and Husband of his People who by his Power speaks through his People to the Edification of his Body And as the Woman is the Weaker Vessel so is Man in comparison of Christ and therefore may not unfitly be accounted a Woman from his comparative imbecillity So that as Christ Presides or Governs in the Assemblies of his People it may be rather said the Man th●● is the Bridegroom and Husband of his People speaks in them and by them then they themselves who without him are but as the Strength of a Woman and it being her place to yield to the Soveraignity of her Lord and Husband to whom is ordained the Rule she ought to receive the Law from his mouth who is the everlasting High-Priest and Prophet of his People But now suppose I should yield it to him that the Apostle chiefly intended the Words in a Literal Sense and not so mystically as we have already discours'd will it therefore be untrue mystically by no means it is frequent to find both a mystical and literal Sense in the same passage as when the Evangelist alludes to Isaiah's Prophecy Chap. 5. 3. proving it to be fulfilled by Christ's bodily Cures which is true in that Sense yet hath one more inward and mystical But to be short I utterly deny from the Literal Text that Women are prohibited to preach singly as Women or of that Sex

and for no other Reason and consequently that some Women may preach which I prove thus If the Apostle had Companions and Fellow-Labourers in the Gospel that were Women then we ought to believe that all Women as Women only were not by him denyed to speak in the Church But the Apostles had Female Fellow-Labourers in the Gospel therefore not all Women but some Women only are excluded That he had such Companions he himself is Witness I commend unto you Romans Ph●be our Sister which is a Servant of the Church which is at Cenchrea Great Priscilla and Aquila my Helpers in Christ Jesus Again Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa who labour in the Lord Salute the Beloved Persis which laboured much in the Lord who were all Women Aquila excepted Next If the Prophecy of Joel refer to the Times of the Gospel in which God promised To pour out of his Spirit on all Flesh and your Sons and your Daughters shall Prophecy c. as is remembred and so applyed by Peter when the holy Ghost was poured forth at Jerusalem then Women were not exempted as Women from the Gift of the Holy●Ghost and Prophesie thereby But it was never yet questioned by any that I know and therefore Women as Women are so far from being excluded that they are to partake of the Promise as well as Men. Again If Anna preached to the People in the Temple at Jerusalem the Glorious Day of Israel ' s Redemption as may be read in Luke and if Philip's four Daughters were Prophetesses and if Priscilla expounded to Apollo as well as her Husband the Way of God more perfectly even at that time when he was a Preacher among the People as may be read at large in the Acts then say I with good Reason Women as Women are not denyed by the Apostle to Teach and Instruct in the Wayes of God But the Scripture evidently proveth That such Women there have been and consequently Women as Women are not prohibited And methinks the Place urged by him against it clearly intimates as much For the Apostle is not treating in that Chapter who or what Sex shall Prophesie and what not but of that Order and Decency which such as Prophesie ought to observe For when he said You may all Prophesie one by 〈◊〉 if it had been asked Who Men or Women doubtless he would have answered All or every one provided any thing be revealed to you So that then this Prohibition of the Apostle extends only to their Disorder in the Church occasioned by their Ignorance which put them upon the proposing of their Doubts and Scruples unseasonably that is such of them as were Vnlearned and not an Anna a Priscilla a Tryphena a Tryphosa or a Beloved Persis who Preached Israel ' s Redemption and Expounded the Way of the Lord and were Fellow-Labourers in the Work and Gospel of Christ So then the words are to be read thus I permit not an Vnlearned or Ignorant Woman to speak in the Church and if she will learn any thing let it be at Home of her Husband for 't is a Shame that such a Person should be suffered to trouble the Church with her Vnseasonable and Vnlearned Questions And to this sense Grotius himself does more then encline as may be read in his Annotations upon this very place sayes he Intelligendum vero cum exceptione afflatus Prophetici diximus supra It is alwayes to be understood with an Exception to Prophetick Motions or Inspirations as we said before which implies a plain Contradiction to the Opinion of our Adversary who vainly supposeth That Women as Women are exempted Again he tels us That such Women are the Subjects of the Apostle's Discourse who being Ignorant and not well understanding what may have been spoken by the Teacher in the Congregation was not to interrupt the Speakers Ne interrumpant loquentes sed Mares Domus suae interrogent qui aut respondebunt exse aut consulent peritiores but ask their Husbands at Home who will either answer themselves or consult those who may be more experienced Thus much on this Particular and I believe enough to reconcile all sober minds to the serious Exhortations and Reproofs as well of Good and Holy Women as Men who are also Witnesses of his Resurrection who was Dead but is Alive and lives forever Scriptures Socinianiz'd I Shall now attend his Sophistication of several Scriptures in which his Displeasure against G. F. comes not from his ardent Love to any common Principles which he has hitherto seem'd to militate for but his great Regard to Socinianism both against G. F. and them The first is his Exception to G. F's Citation of that Scripture And have put on the New Man which is renewed in Knowledge after the Image of Him that created him where G. F. puts Them for Him making the Saints the Antecedent to Them whereas the New Man is the Antecedent to Him and shows that the New Man is created which G. F. is not willing to allow for he corrects his Adversary for saying The Light is a Creature which is to say Christ who is called the Light is here called a New Man and such a one as is created and consequently is not God but a Creature A Doctrine that well becomes our Adversary To which I Answer That the New Man who is there said to be created is put in opposition to the Old Man mention'd in the Verse before who is thus described by the Apostle But now you also put off all these Anger Wrath Malice Blasphemy Filthy Communication out of your Mouth Lye not one to another seeing that ye have put off the Old Man Which shews he meant by the Old man those Habits and Customs of Evil which were almost become Natural that they were before addicted to and consequently that the New Man was the inward Regeneration or New Creation of the Soul Mind and Spirit with the Inclinations and Affections thereof so that the Image of the New Man may be created or begotten in Believers and on that account be called the New Man but not that Christ Jesus is the created New Man For it is he by their own Principle That Creates all things New in the Heavenly World of the Gospel who having all Power begets his People into a New State renewing them in all Divine Knowledge after the Image or that they may be the Likeness of him that created him that is that Image for nothing can be renewed that was not lost but Christ was never lost to speak properly in our Adversary's sense as well as ours but the Image of Christ has been lost almost from the Foundation of the World Therefore it is not Christ but his Image that is renewed and anew created So that if G. F. did put Them for Him it is not false for to create them anew in his Image or a new Image in them is all one and the words will bear it that Christ creates