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A49773 Concerning marriage a letter sent to G.F. and with it a copy of an answer to a friends letter concerning marriage, and some queries and his reply to the answer and queries and an additional to G.F.s reply containing 13 queries concerning marriage, also the manner how the parties intending marriage are to go together / published by Benjamin Lawrence by the consent and advice of friends. Lawrence, Thomas, 1645?-1714.; Lawrence, Benjamin. 1663 (1663) Wing L684; ESTC R31690 11,646 18

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contend against it affirming that none can be free from sin on this side the grave and not only live in sin but profess they must do so if such marry their marriage is of the World in the fall out of the power of God and his image not as God joyns and though they may be faithful one to another yet they are not faithful to God out of the doctrine of Scripture are in the defiled bed their children unclean 2 Querie Whether the marriage bed be undefiled whilst any kind of sin remaineth Answ He that believes hath passed from death to life and so from the sin and overcomes the sin Turn to G.F. Letter pag 2. lines 23.24 To know marriage as it was in the beginning before man fell is a state before defilement was lin 27.28 and such as live in sin and say they never look to be otherwise in this life are not they in the defilement is not all sin defilement is not their bed defiled and all that they do to the unclean all things are unclean though they may be faithful each to other concerning bodily act Here the honourable marriage of Gods joyning out of transgression goes over the head of the Worlds marriages of mans joyning in the sin though they boast and mock at the simplicity of truth and them that live in it 3 Querie What is the difference between such as can witness freedom from sin and do keep the enmity under and marry and others that do not only live in sin but are in enmity against them that hold there is freedom from sin Answ The first are of Gods joyning both in the image of God out of the fall again lin 1.2 overcome the sin and marry as others do not as passive as it was in the beginning before defilement was lin 18.19 others joyn in their own wills and affections out of the power of God and his image not as God joyns but as man joyns have trouble in the flesh cares differing children unclean and many sad effects which are incident to all marriages in the fall 4 Querie Whether children of Parents who are both or either of them out of transgression are conceived and born in sin or are they clean and holy Answ There is a state where the believing wife sanctifies the unbelieving husband and the believing husband sanctifies the unbelieving wife else were your children unholy but now they are clean which is through the sanctification which is through the belief he that believer hath passed from death to life and so from the sin and overcomes the sin lin from the 17. to the 27. Is it a small thing to consider or did Parents seriously weigh what their children do inherit from them in the seed it might be a motive to throughout sanctification to all tender-hearted Parents for their childrens sake Zachariah and Elizabeth both were just before God and John was filled with the Holy Ghost from his Mothers womb God created one man and one woman out of transgression Mal. 2. that he might have a godly seed to replenish the earth and subdue it 5 Querie Whether deadness and losing the condition be not the more incident to some minding marriage Answ All deadness and losing the condition comes in going from the power of God lin 21. 6 Querie Whether children may not marry without consent of Parents and whether Parents may not give or deny their consent to their children in marriage Answ In the beginning God made them male and female whom he joyns together let no man put asunder lin 10.11 no not natural Parents but give their consent then answered Laban and Bethuel and said This thing is proceeded of the Lord we cannot say unto thee evil nor good Also spiritual Parents give their consent Paul gave his consent to the Apostles Bishops Ministers any if need so require let them marry But such marriages as man joyns not as God joyns Parents may deny their consent Paul denied his consent saying Be not unequally yoked with Infidels Isaac and Rebecca denied their consent and Isaac said unto Jacob Take not a wife of the daughters of Canaan and Jacob obeyed his father and his mother Gen. 28.7 Obey them that have the oversight of you and submit your selves for they watch for your souls be obedient to such as have given themselves to minister to the Saints and to all that help with them and labour All Friends that intend marriage take counsel of the ministers of truth not conclude marriage first and acquaint them with it after but be obedient to Parents that your days may be long in the land and the earth may be repelnished with an holy seed that may rule in righteousness who are obedient to their spiritual Parents cannot disobey their natural father and mother who are not to force their children to marry against their consent the Parents and kindred called Rebecca and said Wilt thou go with this man and she said I will go 7 Querie Whether any may know Gods will absolute and infallible concerning their marriage as whether such a person be appointed of God to be a a fit help forasmuch as some have been so perswaded yet failed Answ To know marriage as God joyns is to know it as it was before man fell lin 1. a certain knowledge this is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh Adam knew Gods appointment Abraham knew Gods appointment and said God will send his Angel and thou shalt take a wife for my son from thence Laban and Bethuel knew Gods appointment and said This thing is proceeded of the Lord for this cause Gods wil manifest Gods appointment Gods ordinance shall a man leave father and mother and cleave to his wife Some marry in their own wills and say it is Gods will Can any be obedient to Gods will and not know it or not know it certain this the Worlds Preachers and Professors cry none is infallible say they what then do they preach for to make people doubt or what shall any hear such for that cannot tell certain Who abides in the light are in the unity joyned to the Lord are one spirit one in desire delight and sweetness one will what man wills God wills if ye abide in me and my words abide in you saith Christ ask what you will and it shall be done unto you delight thy self in the Lord and thou shalt have the desire of thine heart not in thy own but in Gods time The Jews after they did come out of Egypt did go together there might be something stirring of God at first lin 4.12 the state of the Gentiles and the Christians there might be something stirring from the Lord as particularly Hester lin 13. Jews Gentiles Christians Gods stirrings have been in all generations and all Gods stirrings are absolute and infallible and that of God in every one which Answers is infallible and when any one is restored out of the fall his assurance may be infallible also
CONCERNING MARRIAGE A LETTER Sent to G. F. And with it a Copy of an Answer to a Friends Letter CONCERNING MARRIAGE And some Queries and his Reply to the Answer and Queries and an Additional to G. F's Reply containing 13 Queries concerning Marriage Also the manner how the parties intending Marriage are to go together Published by Benjamin Lawrence by the consent and advice of Friends Printed in the Year 1663. Faults escaped QUery 3. lin 18 19. should be 27.28 Querie 5. lin 21. should be lines 29 30. latter end of the 7. querie next the words Gods counsell and Gods time before the word note is left out these words others not answering Gods stirrings yet think to deal sure sure enough of trouble and sorrow a curse and not a blessing pag. 10. lin 4. staid for stirred about the middle of the 10. pag. so in times is set for sometimes after Querie 13. strike out a and leave year after Concerning Marriage A Letter sent to G. F. LOving friend something in answer to a friends Letter who desired counsel concerning marriage hath occasioned several Queries To the Answer and Queries if there be some Reply it may do well Thomas Lawrence The Copy of an Answer to a friends Letter concerning Marriage FRiend That marriage is Gods Ordinance which is joyned in and by the Lord. The honourable marriage is when the bed is undefiled transgression finished freedom from sin witnessed victory over the world known and the enmity kept under an absolute divorce from all that the first nature hath been wedded to and committed uncleanness with in the time of ignorance When Lovers are moved and guided by the Light in coolness and moderation waiting in Gods counsel then the honourable marriage may be known in the Light and all children of Light will have unity with it When one man and one woman out of transgression are joyned together in and by the Lord let no man put them asunder Forbidding to marry is the doctrine of Devils But for any that cannot witness transgression finished nor scarcely know what it is who live in sin and say God hath joyned them in marriage is it not a lie against God and his Ordinance God instituted marriage before sin was and doth it when sin is done away and is the same for ever who joyneth nothing but that which is pure all that is hasty and hankering after fleshly motions is not Gods moving some have been observed not to have grown in truth but deadness and losing the condition have followed after marriage nothing defiled is to be owned much less to be endeavoured after Thomas Lawrence Some Queries occasioned by the foregoing Answer 1 WHether Joyning together in marriage by such as cannot witness freedom from all sin be Gods Ordinance or of the world 2. Whether the marriage-bed be undefiled whilst any kind of sin remaineth 3. What is the difference between such as can witness freedom from all sin and do keep the enmity under and marry and others that do not only live in sin but have enmity against them that hold there is a freedom from sin 4. Whether children of Parents that are both or either of them free from transgression are conceived and born in sin or are they clean and holy 5. Whether deadness and losing the condition have not followed some minding marriage G.F. his Reply to the Answer and Queries sent to T.L. by a friend and is as followeth line 1 FRiend concerning Marriage to know it as it was before line 2 man fell which were both in the image of God that is line 3 the state out of the fall again of Gods joyning not as man line 4 joyns but as God joyns not joyned by the Laws of men line 5 but by the Power of God and his image so to know the line 6 Jews that after they came out of Egypt they did go together line 7 and hardness of heart got up amongst them and there line 8 was a Bill of divorcement given that they should depart but line 9 in the beginning it was not so when God made them Male line 10 and Female whom he joyns together let none put asunder line 11 for men may put together and put asunder again line 12 And the state of the Christians and Gentiles there may line 13 something stir from the Lord as particularly Hester And line 14 though the Jews did go into hardness of heart afterwards line 15 there might be something stirring of God at first and line 16 likewise the Apostle saith It is better to marry then to line 17 burn shewing there is a state to prevent the burning it line 18 was not a sin in that state and there is a state where the line 19 believing wife sanctifies the unbelieving husband and the line 20 believing husband sanctifies the unbelieving wife else were line 21 the children unholy but now are they clean which is line 22 through the sanctification which is through the belief line 23 for he that believes hath passed from death to life and so line 24 from the sin and overcomes the sin and so then there is a line 25 state to be married as they were not as passive and none line 26 of these states that is kept in the power of the Lord God is line 27 sin but to know it as it was in the beginning before man line 28 fell that is a state before defilement was and none of these line 29 states are condemned and all deadness and losing the condition line 30 comes in the going from the power of God G.F. An Additional to G. F. his Reply FRiend I received from thee by the Carrier G. F. his reply to the Answer and Letter of Queries which appeared at first to whom it particularly concerned as a parable and to the thing in question but little answer G.F. being told so said he did usually answer to the ground of a thing rather then the words But this replie being weighed is found so full though short that it may serve for a standard rule to answer all Queries that ever need be made concerning marriage Take an example from the Queries sent to G.F. and some more being referred to his lines as followeth T. L. Querie Whether joyning together in marriage by such as cannot witness freedom from all sin be Gods ordinance or of the World Answ Gods joyning is a state out of the fall again by the power of God and his image lines 1.2.3 Such as are redeemed out of the fall into the image of God and marry is Gods ordinance and such as are in the War who cannot as yet witness freedom from all sin yet if they do believe there is such a freedom and do endeavour to attain it who can witness a growth and do abide faithful and marry this may be Gods ordinance also In the time of ignorance God winked but now such as do not only deny freedom from sin after they have been admonished to the truth but