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as_o it_o be_v plain_a to_o see_v in_o that_o popish_a prayer_n tu_fw-la per_fw-la thomae_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o the_o blood_n of_o thomas_n which_o for_o thou_o he_o do_v spend_v make_v we_o christ_n to_o climb_v whither_o thomas_n do_v ascend_v in_o this_o blasphemous_a prayer_n and_o a_o thousand_o such_o they_o pray_v only_o to_o christ_n as_o god_n not_o as_o mediator_n man_n depart_v and_o many_o of_o they_o no_o saint_n they_o make_v their_o only_a mediator_n by_o their_o own_o proper_a merit_n see_v fulk_n ibid._n again_o their_o saint_n be_v not_o only_a intercessor_n for_o grace_n but_o conferrer_n of_o grace_n and_o help_v which_o be_v the_o high_a degree_n of_o mediation_n they_o appoint_v several_a patroness_n among_o the_o saint_n for_o all_o purpose_n s._n apollonia_n for_o the_o toothache_n saint_n rook_n for_o the_o pestilence_n saint_n petronill_n for_o the_o ague_n saint_n gregory_n for_o scholar_n saint_n morris_n for_o soldier_n saint_n luke_n 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antichristum_n intueretur_fw-la who_o will_v behold_v he_o as_o a_o apostle_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o as_o antichrist_n it_o be_v then_o antichristian_a doctrine_n in_o augustine_n judgement_n to_o make_v any_o other_o mediator_n or_o intercessor_n beside_o christ._n here_o follow_v such_o controversy_n as_o concern_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o sacrament_n then_o we_o must_v first_o entreat_v in_o general_a and_o afterward_o handle_v they_o in_o particular_a the_o eleven_o general_z controversy_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o general_z this_o controversy_n contain_v diverse_a question_n first_o of_o the_o nature_n and_o definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n second_o of_o the_o efficacy_n and_o virtue_n of_o the_o sacrament_n three_o of_o the_o number_n and_o order_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o difference_n and_o preeminence_n among_o they_o they_o thus_o follow_v in_o their_o order_n the_o first_o
rachel_n 1._o laban_n 2._o rebecca_n 3._o jacob_n 4._o for_o in_o collateral_a degree_n we_o count_v not_o the_o distance_n from_o the_o root_n or_o stock_n but_o the_o mutual_a distance_n from_o themselves_o and_o by_o this_o reason_n if_o cousin_n germans_n be_v but_o in_o the_o second_o degree_n there_o shall_v be_v no_o degree_n beyond_o the_o second_o forbid_v levit._n 18._o for_o there_o be_v no_o degree_n forbid_v beyond_o this_o neither_o be_v this_o by_o name_n and_o direct_o forbid_v the_o papist_n 3._o their_o three_o rule_n be_v this_o in_o collateral_a degree_n unequal_a there_o abraham_n aram._n sara_n error_n 34_o that_o be_v when_o both_o be_v not_o alike_o distant_a from_o the_o stock_n they_o shall_v differ_v in_o that_o degree_n in_o the_o which_o the_o further_a of_o they_o be_v remove_v from_o the_o stock_n as_o in_o this_o example_n sara_n be_v distant_a two_o degree_n from_o the_o stock_n and_o as_o many_o from_o abraham_n bellarm._n ibid._n the_o protestant_n ans._n neither_o be_v this_o rule_n perfect_a for_o by_o this_o reason_n he_o that_o be_v indeed_o a_o degree_n further_o off_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o same_o degree_n for_o if_o the_o uncle_n and_o the_o nephew_n be_v remove_v but_o the_o second_o degree_n and_o cousin_n germans_n be_v but_o distant_a in_o the_o second_o degree_n as_o they_o say_v the_o uncle_n son_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o same_o degree_n with_o his_o cousin_n as_o his_o father_n be_v which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v wherefore_o in_o collateral_n we_o prefer_v the_o civil_a account_n of_o degree_n that_o be_v so_o many_o person_n the_o stock_n of_o the_o kindred_n except_v so_o many_o degree_n these_o than_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o marriage_n 1._o in_o the_o right_a line_n ascend_v and_o descend_v all_o degree_n be_v forbid_v 2._o in_o collateral_a consanguinity_n the_o prohibition_n reach_v to_o the_o three_o degree_n as_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o marry_v the_o uncle_n or_o the_o aunt_n who_o be_v in_o the_o three_o degree_n from_o their_o nephew_n 3._o in_o collateral_a affinity_n the_o prohibition_n be_v extend_v to_o the_o four_o degree_n for_o affinity_n be_v always_o a_o degree_n beyond_o that_o consanguinity_n by_o the_o which_o it_o come_v in_o as_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o marry_v the_o uncle_n wife_n levit._n 18.14_o which_o be_v in_o the_o four_o degree_n from_o her_o nephew_n be_v one_o degree_n beyond_o her_o husband_n who_o be_v the_o uncle_n in_o the_o three_o degree_n and_o this_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o there_o be_v no_o affinity_n in_o the_o first_o or_o second_o degree_n but_o the_o near_a be_v in_o the_o three_o as_o the_o wife_n or_o husband_n father_n brother_n or_o daughter_n which_o be_v all_o in_o the_o three_o degree_n the_o husband_n be_v in_o the_o first_o the_o wife_n the_o second_o and_o they_o in_o the_o three_o the_o second_o part_n whether_o any_o of_o the_o degree_n prohibit_v in_o the_o law_n may_v be_v dispense_v withal_o the_o papist_n they_o say_v not_o that_o the_o pope_n may_v dispense_v with_o all_o but_o with_o some_o of_o they_o council_n trid._n sess_v 24._o can_n 3._o as_o they_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o dispense_v with_o king_n error_n 35_o henry_n the_o 8._o marriage_n with_o his_o brother_n wife_n their_o reason_n be_v because_o some_o of_o those_o prohibition_n be_v only_o judicial_a and_o positive_a constitution_n not_o ground_v upon_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n argum._n 1._o if_o it_o be_v the_o law_n of_o nature_n not_o to_o marry_v within_o those_o degree_n it_o shall_v have_v be_v in_o force_n before_o the_o law_n be_v make_v but_o so_o be_v it_o not_o for_o abraham_n marry_v his_o brother_n daughter_n and_o jacob_n two_o sister_n bellarm._n cap._n 27._o ans._n 1._o as_o augustine_n say_v of_o the_o marriage_n and_o copulation_n of_o adam_n child_n brother_n and_o sister_n together_o factum_fw-la est_fw-la compellente_fw-la necessitate_v it_o be_v for_o necessity_n sake_n because_o there_o be_v then_o no_o more_o woman_n so_o also_o may_v it_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n true_a of_o those_o patriarch_n that_o have_v a_o necessity_n to_o marry_v among_o their_o own_o kindred_n and_o not_o with_o the_o gentile_n there_o be_v no_o choice_n to_o be_v have_v of_o woman_n of_o their_o own_o kindred_n further_o off_o in_o degree_n 2._o although_o this_o example_n of_o they_o both_o in_o marry_v many_o wife_n and_o so_o near_o of_o kin_n can_v be_v altogether_o excuse_v or_o justify_v in_o they_o yet_o because_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n be_v not_o yet_o so_o clear_o know_v as_o afterward_o by_o the_o give_n of_o the_o law_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o exposition_n of_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n the_o offence_n be_v not_o so_o great_a in_o they_o but_o may_v better_o be_v tolerate_v because_o as_o augustine_n say_v it_o be_v neither_o contra_fw-la morem_fw-la illorum_fw-la temporum_fw-la nec_fw-la contra_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la neither_o against_o the_o custom_n of_o those_o time_n nor_o against_o any_o flat_a precept_n and_o to_o conclude_v although_o those_o holy_a man_n have_v their_o imperfection_n yet_o we_o must_v not_o judge_v they_o in_o these_o thing_n according_a to_o the_o evil_a and_o corrupt_a disposition_n of_o man_n in_o these_o day_n which_o may_v use_v this_o great_a liberty_n in_o marriage_n better_a than_o many_o use_v lawful_a marriage_n now_o as_o augustine_n say_v castiùs_fw-la habebant_fw-la plures_fw-la quà m_fw-la nunc_fw-la multi_fw-la unam_fw-la they_o use_v many_o wife_n more_o chaste_o than_o many_o now_o live_v with_o one_o de_fw-fr bon_fw-fr coniug_v cap._n 10._o the_o protestant_n we_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v utter_o unlawful_a for_o any_o christian_n to_o marry_v within_o the_o degree_n prohibit_v neither_o can_v any_o humane_a power_n dispense_v with_o such_o marriage_n but_o the_o equity_n of_o that_o law_n be_v ground_v upon_o nature_n be_v in_o force_n for_o ever_o wherefore_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n show_v himself_o plain_o to_o be_v antichrist_n in_o dispense_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n argum._n 1._o levit._fw-la 18.24_o the_o reason_n of_o that_o law_n be_v give_v concern_v the_o forbid_a degree_n they_o shall_v not_o defile_v themselves_o in_o any_o one_o of_o those_o thing_n because_o the_o gentile_n defile_v themselves_o thereby_o and_o be_v cast_v out_o before_o they_o for_o it_o wherefore_o it_o be_v a_o natural_a and_o perpetual_a law_n otherwise_o the_o gentile_n have_v not_o be_v bind_v unto_o it_o argum._n 2._o mark_n 6.18_o john_n say_v to_o herode_fw-la it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o thou_o to_o have_v thy_o brother_n wife_n ergo_fw-la the_o law_n be_v not_o abrogate_v be_v in_o force_n in_o our_o saviour_n christ_n time_n neither_o be_v they_o to_o allege_v that_o herodes_n brother_n be_v yet_o live_v or_o that_o he_o have_v a_o child_n by_o herodias_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o he_o to_o marry_v she_o for_o all_o this_o be_v grant_v which_o can_v be_v prove_v yet_o it_o be_v plain_a out_o of_o the_o text_n that_o john_n reprove_v he_o in_o no_o other_o name_n but_o because_o he_o marry_v his_o brother_n wife_n augustine_n be_v against_o they_o who_o speak_v of_o the_o marriage_n of_o consobrines_fw-mi or_o cousin_n germans_n which_o have_v be_v sometime_o in_o use_n quia_fw-la id_fw-la nec_fw-la divina_fw-la prohibuit_fw-la 16._o &_o nondum_fw-la prohibuerat_fw-la lex_fw-la humana_fw-la it_o be_v as_o yet_o think_v lawful_a because_o neither_o the_o divine_a law_n forbid_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o yet_o prohibit_v by_o man_n law_n if_o that_o then_o be_v think_v lawful_a which_o god_n law_n manifest_o forbid_v not_o that_o sure_o be_v unlawful_a which_o it_o plain_o forbid_v wherefore_o to_o marry_v within_o any_o of_o the_o degree_n direct_o forbid_v levit._n 18_o be_v utter_o unlawful_a the_o three_o part_n whether_o any_o other_o degree_n may_v be_v by_o humane_a law_n prohibit_v beside_o those_o direct_o forbid_v in_o the_o law_n the_o papist_n 1._o they_o affirm_v that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n those_o degree_n only_o be_v unlawful_a to_o marry_v in_o which_o be_v direct_o and_o by_o name_n set_v down_o &_o therefore_o it_o be_v error_n 36_o not_o unlawful_a by_o moses_n law_n for_o the_o uncle_n or_o aunt_n husband_n to_o marry_v his_o niece_n because_o it_o be_v not_o by_o name_n prohibit_v as_o abraham_n marry_v his_o brother_n arams_n daughter_n for_o sara_n be_v his_o niece_n the_o marriage_n also_o of_o cousin_n germans_n be_v lawful_a by_o moses_n law_n and_o practise_v numb_a 36._o the_o daughter_n of_o zelophehad_n marry_v their_o uncle_n son_n therefore_o by_o moses_n law_n no_o degree_n be_v forbid_v which_o be_v not_o direct_o name_v bellarm._n cap._n 27._o the_o protestant_n 1._o concern_v abraham_n marriage_n what_o be_v to_o be_v think_v we_o have_v show_v before_o but_o it_o be_v a_o