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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90976	The sun out-shining the moon, or, Righteousness excelling rottennness in answer to a lying scandalous paper, published by John Moone, entituled, The true light hath made manifest darknesse, &c. : but it is darkness put forth for light, as it will appear by that which followeth / and is published by John Price.	Price, John, Welsh clergyman.; Bownd, William. Brief discovery of the the erroneous tenets of those who are distinguished from other men by the name of Quakers.	1658 (1658)	Wing P3353; ESTC R43721	30,935	58

meeting in the Parish of Llauvr in Raduorshire where Hugh Evans was exercising his Gifts to the edifying and building up of his Brethren in the Faith and fear of the Lord and in his exercise he said to this effect That there is a threefold nature in the people of God The Divine Nature The Humane Nature And the Serpentine Nature The seed of the Serpent under the feet of the seed of the Woman the seed of the Serpent bruising the heele but the seed of the Woman bruising the head then one John David a Quaker so distinguished from other men spake to this effect or these very words I deny thy third there is but two stop thy mouth the Plagues and Judgements of God is thy portion and with many presumptuous words in the name of the Lord he railed much against us and so began to teach the people and held forth that there is but two things light and darknesse God and the Devil the seed of the Woman and the seed of the Serpent and many things to that purpose After him John Moone began his Lesson but Hugh Evans made some reply to this effect That if it was so as they said that there is but two things light and darknesse God and the Devil the seed of the Woman and the seed of the Serpent then what is that which is to be saved or to be damned for it is impossible for the seed of the Serpent to be saved nor for the seed of the Woman to be Eternally damned But John David did give no sound answer and I believe that all rational men will say that he could not Then this question was by us propounded to John Moone but his answer was no better then the other Whereupon the said John Moone stared in Hugh Evans his eyes and asked him many questions though they themselves cry out against others for asking of questions some of them I can yet remember The first question he asked him was this Art thou come to the beginning He answered I am come to the beginning and the end Christ Jesus Again he asked him Hast thou eaten of the Tree of Life He said He had Then John Moone said How comest thou there Thou knowest what the sword of the Cherubin is Hugh Evans said It is the anger of God Then he asked What the Soul was Upon that I desired Hugh Evans not to answer him knowing them to be but the Cavillers questions Then John Moon said to the people This man who is your Teacher knoweth not what the soul is Then Hugh Evans said Answer not a Fool according to his folly lest thou be like him yet answer a Fool according to his folly lest he be wise in his own conceit And so Hugh Evans stood up and read this Scripture And God breathed into man the breath of life and man became a living soul and so gave the people a Description of the soul of man And after he had done some that were there desired John Moone to gainsay if he could what Hugh Evans had said concerning the soul but he did not much confused discourse hath been that day which cannot be repeated neither is it worth the repeating At another time there was a meeting of theirs at a place called Yscwriw to which meeting Hugh Evans and others went and he accused them of denying the Resurrection and desired time and silence to prove it but could not have it but much bruitish and unreasonable Behaviour shortly after I sent these ensuing queries to John Moone First Whether God and man was not two distinct things after he had created him Secondly Whether man onely did not sall from that peaceable estate which God had created and stared him in and no part of God fell with him or in him Thirdly Whether that formed creature man or that body which God created in the beginning did not become mertal and must die the natural death Fourthly Whether that body or the bodies of all men shall not at the last day or at the dissolution of this world and all Creatures be raised up out of the Earth and receive a just Sentence These queries he did take upon him to answer But I will leave it to the Reader to judge what manner of answer it is Their answer with their queries are as followeth John Price I having received thy Paper wherein thou seekest to put a Cloak on thy errors which Paper I am made free to answer for the innocent sake and not to satisfie thy busy mind First Whereas thou broughtest the Scripture in Nehene 7.5 64. to be a Cloak for thy error and covetousnesse but the Scripture doth declare against all errors and covetousnesse wherein thou art shut out of the Scriptures and art a stranger to the life of God which gave forth the Scriptures living in thy Ignorance and covetousnesse wresting the Scriptures to thy own destruction Answer It is not for that word Register that I charged thee withall for the word in its place I own But for that thou dost follow the way of Balaam who loved the wages of unrighteousnesse but was rebuked for his Iniquity and so I rebuke thee and whereas thou hast confusedly written in thy Paper concerning Justice of the Peace and naming no man yet for truth sake I answer All that are true Ministers of God and Magistrates I own and all that are just and do justice is more acceptable to the Lord then sacrifice and all that acts for the punishment of the Evil-doers and the praise of them that do well For so is the will of God that with well-doing we may put to silence the Ignorant and the Foolish men And herein is our Father glorified and the Enemies of God discovered and all them that acts not according to that which is just I deny An Answer to thy queries First Query Whether God and man was two distinct things after he had created him Answer The Lord God is Eternal and endures for ever and he formed man of the dust of the Earth which is Carnal The second Query Whether man onely did not fall from that peaceable estate which God had created and stated him in and no part of God fell with him or in him Answer It was man onely that brake the Command of God as by one man sin entered into the world and death by sin so death passed upon all men for that all have sinned herein I deny that that which is of God should fall into sin or Iniquity The third Query Whether that formed Creature man or that body which God Created in the beginning did not become mortal and must die the natural death Answer All flesh shall perish and man shall return to the dust from whence he was taken The fourth Query Whether that body or the bodies of all men shall not at the last day or at the dissolution of this world and all Creatures be raised up out of the Earth and receive a just Sentence Answer All

Spirit is distinct in offices operations and workings and in stead of the words operations offices and workings thou addest one from the other see how thou hast handled altered and perverted the man's words so with a parcel of the old Lesson in which we are judged and condemned he goeth on speaking of the true Worshippers and of the false applying the true to themselves and the false to the Baptists so leaving He begins with another lie In the latter end of his fourth Page he accuseth me of saying That there is another way besides light and darkness the which words never proceeded out of my mouth as many can witnesse who were there present But this is the root of the matter John Moone and his Brethren did use to hold forth that there is but two things viz. light and darkness God and the Devil the seed of the Woman and the seed of the Serpent Then I did inquire what that is that is called to repent and believe for the seed of the Woman cannot Eternally be damned and the seed of the Serpent cannot be saved Therefore there is something else that is in danger of being damned which by grace may be Eternally saved But at that time which he saith that I did contradict him in his Teaching it is not so but I accused him of being a false Prophet upon that which had passed between us at other times more then any thing that he had spoken then for when I came into the meeting-place one of the Quakers whose name is Hugh Lloyd and others whom he calls the Baptists were disputing so that I began to speak to Hugh Lloyd Whereupon John Moone replied and said unto me That I was a Blasphemer and the like termes which his mouth is full of so that the discourse began about the threenesse When he did put me to prove him to be a false Prophet the first thing that I did instance then was this Thou sayest that there is but two things that is God and the Devil Then he puts me to prove the third I said That it was man then he said something to this effect That man was one with God and became one with the Devil I replied that they were three distinct things in nature or essence but that I should say That they are one from the other is as true as that Hugh Evans should say That Christ and his Spirit were one from the other I would have the Reader know that we could not then have any orderly reasoning with these men therefore there cannot be as good account given of it as it might if they would observe order and yet they will cry out against confusion as much as any people And as he diminished from Hugh Evans his words so he addeth to my words for I said not One from another neither did I say three wayes but things So he pressed upon me to prove by Scriptures them to be three distinct things Then I produced the Scriptures which saith In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth Then In the beginning was God before there was man therein they were distinct or distinguished the one before the other the one being Eternal before all times the other having a beginning in time Thirdly I produced the third Chapter of Genesis in the beginning of the Chapter which sheweth the Devils coming to tempt man Then I asked Which of the three will you deny Then one of their Teachers named Hugh Lloyd said We deny man I would have the Reader to understand that there was so much disorder and confusion that it was in vain for me to proceed orderly to distinguish their natures properties and qualities for they were more like oyster-Oyster-women scoulding then moderate men reasoning or discoursing for many were speaking at once as their manner is and seldome had I any better termes then Serpent or Dog thou wouldest bite if thou couldest the Judgement and wrath of God is thy Portion with many more words of the like nature as these are I do not say That I do repeat all that hath passed between us that day neither can I but this I can say that I do not leave any thing unrepeated which doth destroy the sense of that which is repeated that I know of The pure holy wise Creator created all things and formed man in his own image but it is no less then blasphemy to say That God is formed or made therefore they are distinct or we must distinguish between the Creator and the Creature Again if there was no distinction to be made between God and man What need was there of Laws and Precepts to bind man upon penalty of death if broken and though the Text saith God created man in his own image it doth not follow that therefore no distinction is to be observed between the Creator and the Creature and further they are distinguished by their names for if there were no distinctions wherefore have they two names Also they differ in nature The nature of God was not nor is not subject to change nor alter But the nature of man was and is subject to alter Thus they were distinguished to be before man fell Now after the fall of man and after he had hearkened to the Devil and became partaker of his nature yet he became not presently a Devil for as man bore the image of God before the fall yet man was not very God before the fall neither is he very Devil after the fall Therefore it admitteth of many distinctions between God and man before the fall and also many distinctions between man and the Devil after the fall for if there be no distinctions between God and man before the fall then there was nothing to fall unlesse some part of God should fall which is no lesse then blasphemy to say that God nor any part of him should fall For he is the holy wise individual and unchangeable God Again if man after the fall was become a very Devil then there is nothing to be restored to the image of God but that which is or was a very Devil but there is something which shall be restored which is not nor was not wholly a Devil for it is written He took not upon him the nature of Angels but the seed of Abraham I had many times told this unconscionable lying man these or the like words That there was but two wayes or light and darknesse And man was the third thing which doth walk in one of the two wayes But this I alwayes did and do deny still that there is no union between men and the Devil but that which is by participating of his nature and not that they are essentially one And now in his fifth Page where he comes to give his judgment concerning it I find no difference between that which I said and that which he now saith in his Paper but onely this I said that man walked in one of these two ways and he saith And