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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66525	Infant=baptism asserted & vindicated by Scripture and antiquity in answer to a treatise of baptism lately published by Mr. Henry Danvers : together with a full detection of his misrepresentations of divers councils and authors both ancient and modern : with a just censur of his essay to palliate the horrid actings of the anabaptists in Germany : as also a perswasive to unity among all Christians, though of different judgments about baptism / by Obed Wills ...	Wills, Obed.	1674 (1674)	Wing W2867; ESTC R31819	255,968	543

of Infants be deferred quoting it out of Dr. Taylors Liberty of Prophesy Besides what we have said of Nazianzens judgment that he disswaded not Infant Baptism as unlawful but as conceiving delay for three or four Years more expedient but if there were Aliquid periouli any fear of death then he allowed of it I shall mind the Reader that when the Learned Dr. Taylor brought in Nazianzen against Infant-Baptism he personated an Anabaptist but in his latter discourse you have his Judgment very fully for Infant-Baptism confuting his former piece particularly he quotes the following passage out of Nazianzen for Infant-Baptism viz. What wilt thou say of Children which neither are sensible of the loss nor the grace shall we Baptize them yes by all means in case of urgent danger for it is better to be Sanctified i e Baptized without their knowledg than to dye without it for so it happened to the Circumcised Babes of Israel c. I conclude this with what Vossius saith of him in his Thesis de Baptismo non igitur Nazianzenus c. Nazianzen was not against Infant-Baptism After him comes Ambrose who in his 3d Book de Sacramentis Cap. 2. hath this saying That the Baptized did not only make confession of his Faith but was to desire the same I perceive he is still sick of the old disease for that this Father speaks of the Pagans in what order they were taken into the Church and not in Opposition to the Baptizing Infants needs no other proof than that he himself was for it Quia omnis aetas peccato obnoxia ideo omnis aetas Sacramento idonea i. e Because every Age is Obnoxious to sin therefore every Age is fit for the Sacrament There is one or two more but I will leave them for we have enough of it After this small Shot the Author le ts fly Canons and Decrees of Councils for Baptizing such as were of years of discretion and were able to rehearse the Articles of the Creed as also we have an Enumeration of several persons born of Christian Parents that were not Baptized till they were of Age and able to give account of their Faith To which I Reply first Grant that some Councils were against Infant-Baptism which we shall not yeild yet if we must go by number of Councils we shall carry it He names three which he would have thought to be against Infant-Baptism and I think I shall not exceed in saying we may name ten times three for it and mark Reader he takes the priviledge of citing Councils but if we do it they are slighted and condemned for Popish and Superstitious 2. We conceive those Councils he names had also respect to Pagans in their Decrees and we have good reason for it because the Canon of Neocaesaria speaks plainly of the Children of such Women as come out from amongst Infidels being proselyted to the Christian Religion in their Pregnancy as Mr. Marshal tells Mr. Tombes This is taken out of Mr. Tombes Exercitation and Examen when he Objected the same thing The Author hath taken the whole Story out of him and all the rest upon the matter which follows in this Century is fetcht from his Exercitation and Examen printed 27. years since and Answered by that Reverend Divine Mr. Steven Marshal in his Defence of Infant-Baptism I would make a parallel betwixt the Author I have to deal with and Tombes but that it would be tedious wherefore instead of that I will transcribe the same things out of Tombes which the Author hath brought again upon the Stage If the Reader compare them he will find never two Eggs more alike Mr. Tombes in his Examen Pag. 10. hath it thus Grotius saith he in his Annotation on Matt. 19.14 adds That the Canon of the Synod of Neocaesaria held in the year 315. determins that a Woman with Child might be Baptized because the Baptism reached not the fruit of her womb because in the Confession made in Baptism each ones free choyce is shewed From which Canon Balsomon and Zonaras do infer that an Infant cannot be Baptized because it hath no power to chase the Confession of Divine Baptism This is according to what we have in H. D. to a tittle what impudence then is it to trouble us with this filly and ridiculous Story when Mr. Marshal proved to Tombes that the inference brought from hence against the Baptism of Believers Children was altogether invalid For the Canon there speaks of the Children of Women come out from among Infidels and come over to the Christian Faith during the time they were with Child For Balsomon saith such Women as were with Child and come from the Infidels and what is this to our Question saith Mr. Marshal which is about Children born in the Church of believing Parents and Balsomon the Glossator distinguisheth of Children some in the womb and some born for the first faith he no man can undertake he means in Baptism and for the other they answer by such as undertake for them which words as Mr. Marshal observes are not mentioned by Mr Tombes for he says no more than what he found in Grotius and for the partial relation he is sharply rebuked for wronging the Truth and labouring to deceive people and yet the Author I conflict with persists in the same course Next the Author speaks big words telling us That in farther Assurance and Confirmation of this great Truth we have most remarkable Instances of several of the most Eminent persons of this Century that were not Baptized till Aged though the Ofspring of Believing Parents viz. Bazil Gregory Nazianzen Ambrose Chrysostom Austin Constantine This also is Mr. Tombes again Examen p. 9. And that People may not be startled with these great names Reply Tombes his Examen P. 9. and be made to think that Childrens Baptism was not practised in the Church in those days wherein they lived I shall acquaint the Reader out of Mr. Marshal upon what grounds Christians heretofore deferred their Baptism namely sometimes they would do it in imitation of Christ who was not Baptized till about thirty years of Age. Constantine the Great put off his Baptism till he came to the River Jordan in which Christ was Baptized some deferred it till they had contracted a great deal of sin out of an erroneous conceit that by Baptism it would be all washed away Much more we have of this in Marshal's Defence of Infant-Baptism Pag. 27. Now for the Instances I find Tombes begins with Constantine and then comes on Nazianzen but the Author here ends with Constantine This argues nevertheless it was taken thence I shall trouble my self no further to seek after any other reason why the Baptism of these men was delayed than what Mr. Marshal gives Tombes For Constantine the Great though the Son of Helena who is reported to have been a zealous Christian not Baptized till he was Aged it doth not appear that his Mother was