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A28531 The second apologie to Balthazar Tylcken treating of the eternall predestination and election of God, and of the incarnation, or becoming man and person, of Christ, and concerning the Virgin Mary / written in the yeare 1621, finished the 3. of July by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus Philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Zweyte Schutz-Schrift wieder Balthasar Tilken. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3416; ESTC R14771 54,352 66

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me is given to see as sharply and accutely as any one can search Mark this which followeth 227. NOw when the Image was faded or disappeared what did God with it did he let it fall quite away and remaine in Death No. Then instantly the Doore of his Mercy set it selfe Open and said The Womans Seed shall Crush the Serpents head 228. Then the Deare Name JESUS incorporated it selfe in the faded disappeared Image and the Mark or Limit in this faded disappeared Image became strengthened which with the Revelation or Manifestation stood in the Body or Womb and Seed of the Virgin Mary as a propagated Seed for if that had not been so then had all those before Christs Birth been Lost 229. For the high Noble Virgin of the Wisdome of God with which Adam in his heavenly in breathed Spirit was Espoused or Married that is Immortall that presented it self in the Light of Life to Man viz to Adam and Eve and warneth them of the ungodly wayes and continually sheweth through the Propheticall Spirit the Limit or Mark of the Covenant where it will with the Deare Name JESUS with the Word and power of the true Deity open it selfe againe in Mans Soul The Second Part. Of the Becoming Man or Incarnation and Person of Christ How Christ is become Man or Incarnate out of No Strange Seed but out of Mary and yet indeed not in Eves Earthly Essence the Holy Ghost was the Man or Masculine therein 230. MY Opponent tell me here what the Womans Seed is upon which you found your Election you say the Children of God must become generated out of the Womans Seed as the Dew out of the Morning Rednesse and reject Adam's and Eves Seed and make a Strange Seed and yet God said Through the Womans Seed shall the Head of the Serpent be Crushed Who is the Woman is it Eve No that you will not admit Why Because otherwise you cannot Cloake your Election or Predestination 231. Well now if you be Learned as indeed you goe about mightily to Colour your Cause with Texts of Scripture then shew in the Holy Scripture that God entended a Strange Woman you say that Mary is not from us Men but is a Virgin from Eternity that you must and shall prove or else it shall have neither place nor beliefe 232. But I will demonstrate with strong Arguments that the Word of Promise goeth upon the Womans Seed viz upon Eve and Adam that is upon the Matter or Matrix which was taken from Adam out of which the Woman was framed out of and in which Adam should have impregnated himselfe if he had stood and had not suffered himselfe to be over-powred 233. For the Woman Eve should have been the propagated Childe but it could not be and therefore she was taken out of Adam's Essence and Bone and was Made a help for him so that the propagation must be performed through TWO 234. Now if Mary Christs Mother be not from us Men then is Christ not the Son of Man as he so very often calleth himself and where then would my poor Soul remaine which lyeth Captive in a darke Dungeon whereas if God would Regenerate it againe as the Dew out of the Morning Rednesse could he not well doe it without becoming Man 235 Besides if Mary were not Man or Humane from us what then would the strange CHRIST be profitable to Me and then it would not be true that the Word is become Flesh Or how could I enter into CHRISTS Suffering Dying and Death if it were not done in Me. 236. But I can with Truth say as the Apostle saith that I beleeve I am Crucified and dead with Christ and rise up in and with him and bear his Image on me 237. Thus saith my Opponent then Christ were conceived in a sinfust Seed if Eve had been the Woman in the Promise No I say not that 238. Christ viz the Living Word was not generated from Mans Seed but in the shut up Seed of the Heavenly part which in Eve faded or disappeared as the dry or withered Rod of Aaron signifieth he became againe the dead parts Sap and Life for the Sinne fell not upon the heavenly part but that dyed understand Substance and not Gods Spirit which rested in the Covenant till at the Limit of the Covenant in Mary 239. The Anger of God Manifested or revealed it self in the Earthly Part as a Life and the heavenly disappeared or faded as God said the day thou eatest thou dyest 240. He meant not solely the Earthly Death for Adam lived Nine hundred and Thirty Yeares e're he dyed and God said the day thou eatest thou dyest that is to the Kingdome of Heaven and livest to the Earthly World as it came to passe 241. I say not that God became Man in Eves Earthly Essence else he must have had a Father but thus himself is the Father 242. Understand this aright The Angel said to Mary The holy Spirit will come upon thee and the Power of the Most High will over-shadow thee in that sticketh the Mark or Key the Angel said he will come upon thee and the Power of the Most High will over-shadow thee Do you not understand this The Holy Spirit would open the shut Center in the Covenant in the Dead Seed and the Word of God would give it self in with living heavenly Substantiality into that which was shut up in Death and become a Flesh the Holy Spirit was instead of a Man or Husband he brought the Heavenly Tincture of the Fathers Fires Glance and of the Eternall Sonnes Lights Glance He was in the Tincture the Life and the Moving What Manner of Essence the Word received or assumed wherein God and Man became One Person Also how Christ is a Creature and how he is No Creature 243. NOw understand me according to its high worth I speak in the Vision or Sight and not in the Opinion or Conceit In Adam when God inbreathed the Soul into him then was the Soul surrounded or endued from the Glance of the Fathers Fire together with the Center to the Fire and also from the Glance of the Light with Divine Substantiality Moving in Gods Wisdome or Substantiality 244. But now in the Fall the Light extinguished and only the Fire with the Center to the Fire remained that was now the Dryed or withered and dead Soul as the Dry Rod of Aaron signified and Old shut up Barren Sarah Abraham's Wife and Old Elizabeth dead in the Womb or Matrix the Mother of John the Baptist 245. This Soul was from Adam thus dry or withered propagated except some Holy or Saints in the Covenant where the Holy Spirit in the Covenant Moved as is to be seen by Old Elizabeth that the Child in the Covenant in the Mothers Body or Womb when the Spirit moved the Childs Spirit when Mary came to her that it leaped for joy in the Spirit of the Messiah when it
desire it no more become its Enemy have Enmity against it let God make of thee and beleeve in thee as strongly as he will depend on God and wrestle with him as Jacob did the whole night who then said I will not let thee Goe unlesse thou blesse me and David said Though it continue all the Day and in the Night and againe till the Morning yet my heart shall not give over 114. This is really to beleeve above all Reason when the Heart receiveth no Comfort and yet dependeth on God and saith in the Will LORD LORD I will not leave thee whether thou cast me into Heaven or Hell I will not forsake thee for thou art mine and I am thine I will be Nothing in thee make of me what thou wilt 115. Deare Brethren observe it well This storme and force at last breaketh Heaven and Hell whereof my Opponent as I understand in his very lamentable Writings knoweth nothing at all 116. He saith Man should stand still and expect what God will doe with him whether he casteth him into Heaven or Hell Man cannot prevent or hinder it it is concluded in Gods predestinate purpose or Councill whether he will cast every One O the Most Lamentable Place and Miserable Faith God pitty us that we suffer our selves to be so blinded 117. If we cannot come to God why then doth he bid us to Come Christ indeed saith he came into this world to seek and to save poor sinners also he came to seek that which is Lost viz the poor condemned Sinner whom God had cleerly drawne into the Darknesse and firmely included therein and Chosen him to be a Childe of Darknesse the same is Christ come to seek and to save and not the Righteous who is honest or pious beforehand look upon the Father of the Lost or prodigall Sonne how he did with the Swineheard who had spent his heavenly Goods with the Devills Swine Of the Grosse Errour of Balthasar Tylcken Concerning the Seed of Adam upon which he buildeth his Election 118. MY Opponent will make TWO Seeds in Adam out of which Naturally two sorts of Men become generated from the Mothers Body or Womb one out of the Seed of the Woman and the other out of the Seed of the Serpent therefore God Loved the One and forsooke or hardened the Other and will prove it with Cain and Abel also with Jacob and Esau upon which he buildeth the Election 119. But I tell you Deare Brethren if at that time when he wrote such Blasphemy against God and Mankinde he had been asleep how happy had the time been thus he maketh of the Image of God a twofold Image out of One Seed Two Seeds One party he ascribes to the Devill viz to the Serpent and the Other to the Womans Seed 120. But I would ask him Whether Cain and Abel as also Jacob and Esau were both conceived from the Seed of Father and Mother or whether at the Time when Cain became conceived there was in that very Seed in Adam and Eve out of which he became conceived a meere fleshly Essence as he giveth forth then must even the Devill have wrought or effected that very Seed in Adam and Eve for which God out of his predestinate purpose hath rejected him or let him but tell me who wrought or effected that same Serpents Seed in Adam and Eve of which he speaketh being he will not permit him to be Good and Evill according to the Two Inward Worlds and so maketh a Totall Seperation 121. O thou totally blinde lamentable miserable Reason be but advised The Doore of Grace standeth yet wide open doe not thus seduce the Children of Christ Whom Christ hath purchased with his precious Bloud who there saith Come all to me who are heavy laden with sinne observe yet the Center and the Ground of the Will of God look upon the Center 122. John saith The Light shineth in the Darknesse and the Darknesse Comprehended it not doe you not understand this when Adam was in his Innocency then his Light also shone to him in the Darknesse and the Darknesse comprehended not his Light but when he Imagined after the Darknesse that is after Evill and Good then the Evill quenched out his Light to him and the Darknesse became manifested or revealed on him then the Divine Substantiality dyed to him understand the Divine Bodyes or heavenly Fleshes Substantiality and the outward Spirits and the outward Elementary Fleshes Substantiality awakened or arose and gat a beastiall property 123. Also together in that beastiall property awakened or arose the Spirit or source or quality of Darknesse viz the First Principle in Gods Anger and so he dyed to the Angelicall World viz to Paradise and awakened or arose to the Outward World which is Evill and Good out of the Two Inward Spirituall Worlds 124. The Dark World should not be manifested on Man for the Light understand the Divine Light shined in Adam in the Darknesse and the Darknesse viz the first Principle could not Comprehend the Light but when Adams Imagination went thereinto then the Darknesse Comprehended the Light and all the Three Principles were stirring and manifested or revealed in Adam 125. For Adam would be as God and know Good and Evill which God did forbid them that they should not Eate of Good and Evill else they would dye but the Devill perswaded them they should become wise thereby yes wise Indeed so that when their Eyes became opened through their Imagination and Earthly Eating that they knew the outward beastiall property which became manifested or revealed on them the poor Soul was ashamed and is still ashamed to see the Beastiall Property 126. The Outward Body on Adam was indeed before the Fall but not Manifested or revealed to the Soul as now at present the Kingdome of Heaven is in us but to the Soul in its outward Part in this World not Manifested or revealed A Childe of Christ liveth at present in this World with the New Birth in Heaven and the Eye of the averted or Reverse Soul seeth it not but the Eye IN Christ seeth it Why God hated Cain and Esau and loved Abel and Jacob and which are those lost sinners that Christ is come to save 127. DEare Brethren doe but understand it aright Cain was not begotten out of a totall Devillish Essence out of the Serpents Seed but out of the Essence of all the Three Principles of all the Three Worlds for as Adam was after his Fall so also was his Seed 128. But know this when Adam fell then came the Three Principles together in Adam into Strife one with another viz Gods Anger-Kingdome Gods Love-Kingdome and this World Kingdome Cain was Comprehended in the Anger-Kingdome and Abel in the Love-Kingdome therefore rightly said God of Jacob Jacob have I loved and hated Esau thus also it was with Cain and Abel Cain had comprehended the Anger-Kingdome viz the First Principle
beginning but there is an Eternall beginning where the beginning and the End is all ONE the First is continually the Last and the Last is the First whatsoever God hath begun from Eternity to foresee that he beginneth now also at this Day alwayes every Moment to foresee 205. I CAN say with good Ground thus that if I were in my Mothers body or womb comprehended in his Anger then God had from Eternity seene me and apprehended me in his Anger and I were from Eternity Elected in his Anger 206. But if I convert in Repentance so that Gods Love apprehend me then I am also from Eternity foreseene out of the Anger into the Love for in God ALL is Eternall whatsoever at this day beginneth to alter in the Eternall that is from Eternity to Eternity equally in the Eternity 207. The Spirit in the Scripture hath another kinde of speaking than the World hath Know you not how it stands written in the Scripture where the Lord saith Suddenly I speak against a Nation or people which are Evill that I will destroy it but if they convert then it repenteth me of the Evill which I thought to doe unto them 108. Look upon Nineveh there you shall see whether God doth not alter his Will for Mans sake and the Apostle saith that even the Spirit of God is subject to Man viz to Holy Men. 209. His Election and beginning is alwayes every moment his Eternall Birth or Geniture is also every moment in him and before him is all both New and Old for the same God who hath Elected us in Christ before the foundation of the World he also every moment Electeth his Children that come to him the Matter consists only in the Conversion of the Will 210. And though it standeth written that it lyeth not in Mans willing that is only concerning those that Desire God and yet will not goe forth out of their sinfull Will they keep their sinne and yet will be saved therefore it lyeth not in HIS Willing but in this that Man goe out from sinne into Gods Grace and then it lyeth in the Mercy and that God doth readily for he hath promised it 211. It lyeth not in Man to make himselfe blessed or saved but in the Grace which God in his Sonne hath promised and bestowed for God willeth that All Men should be helped or saved as the Scripture saith his Election and out going is from Eternity and his Mercy is also from Eternity in Eternity ALL is in him ETERNALL 212. Therefore Men should better consider the Scripture as to such Termes or Expressions for it often speaketh out of the Eternall Mouth which beginneth every Moment 213. For when the Scripture faith He hardeneth their Hearts that they beleeve not and so come not to be saved then it speaketh of those who would be saved by their own ability in their Evill Will and Life those he suffereth to goe on in their purpose or predestination for they will doe it 214. As also Adam did he would not be resigned into God as a Childe but be his own and apprehend and know Good and Evill and Live in all the Three Principles for he went out from Gods will into his own of set purpose therefore God left him and then he fell downe and slept 215. And when he did eate of the forbidden fruit then Gods Anger Elected him to the Damnation of Death and Gods Love spake against it saying The Seed of the Woman shall Bruise or Crush the Serpents head and that was also an Eternall Election and yet it was also a beginning Temporary Election for how can an Election passe upon a thing when as yet it hath no Roote 216. Gods Anger hath from Eternity continually and still at this very day Elected IT SELFE to be a Darknesse that Gods Love and Light might in the Anger become Manifested or revealed 217. Now that which is out of the Eternall as the Soul of Man that hath also Free-will to manifest it selfe in the Light or in the Darknesse NOT that it hath the Light and Darknesse in ITS power but it hath ability to work in Good or Evill that is in the power of the Light or of the Darknesse and in which soever it worketh that manifesteth it selfe in it 218. The Might or power is Gods and the Soule is his Childe a Branch in the Tree proceeded out of Gods Mouth out of Love and Anger all THAT lyeth in it and is its own propriety 219. Who will then take away the Free-Will from it being it is a Branch in the Eternall Tree and hath Love and Anger in it selfe Or is it not true My Opponent speaketh Even so that the Anger lay hidden in Adam before the Fall and hath manifested it selfe with the Fall 220. But he maketh me Wonderfull beginnings in the Seed of Adam One with God another with the Serpent and that is a grosse Errour there are not TWO sorts of Seeds but ONE only but two sorts of Dominions lye in the Seed viz Gods Love and Anger and is but one only Seed 221. But as to one part from the Divine Substantiality from the Holy and pure Element in which the Paradise and Heaven ●●eth as also the Tincture of Fire and Light that very Seed disappeared in Adam when he fell whereof God said The day that thou eatest of this Tree thou shall dye 222. And the other Seed understand Spirit is the Center of the Eternall Nature viz of the Dark World according to which God calleth himselfe an Angry God but that was not stirring and manifest while the Light shone in the divine heavenly Paradisicall Substantiality but in the Fall it became manifested or revealed 223. But now Adam was also shut up in the Dominion and in the Spirit of the Outward World but that must in his Innocency goe also behinde and come after for Gods Kingdome ruled in him but when he fell then it became also manifested and powerfull in him and instantly heate and Cold fell upon him so that he must cloath himselfe and he fell by the Outward Worlds Might into the Corruptibility of his Body 224. Now what kinde of Seed should become generated in Adam out of which Cain and Abel could be conceived even such a one as Adam was after the Fall viz according to the Outword World Evill and Good and according to the Anger-World totally Evill 225. But now the Kingdome of God viz the Heavenly Substantiality was faded or disappeared in him for the Darknesse had received in the Light in him as you have an Image thereof in the dry withered Staffe of Aaron which Sprouted againe So also did the faded or disappeared Substantiality in the Spirit of Christ when God became Man in that very faded Substantiality 226. Now my Opponent with your Election come hither to Schoole now shew me the Grace-Election I will also shew it you in the Divine knowledge to