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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A45830	Infants-baptism disproved and believers baptism proved, or, An answer to several arguments propounded in a paper by Mr. Alexander Kellie, minister at Giles Criple Gate London, and sent to Mr. Jeremiah Ives of the said parish and is now published for the general information of all, but particularly for the satisfaction of many of the inhabitants of the said parish who have desired it, wherein the arguments for infant-baptism are examined and disproved by the said Jeremia Ives.	Ives, Jeremiah, fl. 1653-1674.	1655 (1655)	Wing I1100; ESTC R31669	39,332	78

other Countries and Churches who did not suffer any to doe so till they were baptized Socrates lib. 5. cap. 2● Which plainly shewes that infants baptism was not a tradition of the Apostles for if it had this Church of Alexandria that had for the space of some hundred years been converted to the faith of Christ would by this time if all believers had baptized their infants as the Church of England and others doe now adayes one Generation after another have been without any that were able to read and interpret the Scriptures before baptism as we see the Nation of Engl now is a few Anabaptists Children so called excepted otherwise where are your Oathecumenists that are able to read understand the holy Script before you baptize them And that they in those times did follow the way of Christ in baptizing and not your Bason way appears for the same Socrates lib. 7. cap. 4. speaks of a Jew which was baptized by Soticus Bishop of Constantinople who saith he as soon as he was TAKEN OUT OF THE WATER his Palsie left him Can it be said so of any that you baptize that they are taken out of the water The same Author further saith lib. 7. cap. 17. of a Jew that was to be baptized upon his profession of faith by Paulus the Novatian Bishop that all things were provided for his baptism among which he saith The Bishop did provide him a linnen Garment which was to no purpose if he had not been to dip the person in water And Bellarmiue himself acknowledges that in old time they had women in the Church whom they called to the Office of Deaconnesses to attend upon the women that were baptized with baptizing cloaths And Jerome Translating the Lamentation of Origen saith That Origen lamented and bewailed the Vow that HE MADE WHEN HE WAS BAPTIZED in that he had now by sin walked contrary to it However Origen is himself thought to favour this practice afterwards yet those things are but the supposed works of Origen and it 's hard to say whether it was his or no. Again Eusebius who writ the Ecclesiasticall History of the first 300 years after Christ though he tells us of all the most observable passages of those times yet he doth not so much as mention the baptizing of one infant but doth often times mention things in favour to the baptizing of men upon profession of faith as appears lib. 7. cap. 8. of his Ecclesiasticall story where he relates of a man that heard the Questions that was by the Minister asked of persons to be baptized and THEIR ANSWERS TO THEM fell down and wept at the Ministers feet because the baptism that he had received of the Hereticks was not like the baptism THAT WAS IN USE THEN which plainly sheweth That at this time the Churches did not receive men to baptism but upon profession of faith and also that it was no Apostolicall Custome to baptize infants Further Beza himself upon Acts 17.3 saith That they professed in baptism the doctrine propounded by John And besides this how often have Mr. Tombs and Mr. Den and others produced sufficient proof that this practice of baptizing infants was not so much the Custome of the Primitive times as you imagine That memorable instance of Gregory Nazianzen whose father was a Bishop and his mother a vertuous woman yet himselfe was not baptized till he came from Athens where as Socrates saith lib. 4. cap. 21. he had spent much of his time in the study of Rhetorick Again That other instance of Mr. Tombes out of Hugo Grotius in his Annotations upon Mat. 19.14 That even Chrysostome though born of Christian parents was not baptized till he was 21 years of age The same Grotius adds That the Canon of the Synod of Neosesarea held in the year 315 determined that a woman with Child might be baptized because baptism did not reach the fruit of her womb because in the confession made in baptism EVERY ONES FREE CHOICE IS SHEWED He adds further That many of the Greeks to his time did defer the baptizing little ones till they could themselves make a confession of their faith Again Was not the Image of this Custome to be seen in the practice of the Church of England when they asked What was required of persons TO BE BAPTIZED and the answer was Repentance whereby they forsake sin and Faith whereby they believe the Promises of God Which afterwards by changing the Command of God into a Tradition of their owne they did use to ask the God-fathers and God-mothers a conceit that was never heard of till the Churches had apostatized from their Primitive Purity And as for the manner of baptizing by dipping the Person in the water however it is now laught at you see it was not onely that which as I have said Christ and his Apostles Commanded and Practiced but it was used in the Church for a long time after the Church of England did look upon it as a more commendable way in as much as they in their Service-Book did place dipping before sprinkling and therefore they said the persons DIPPED or sprinkled c. Now may I not better say That if you had looked over the Command of Christ and the Practice of the Apostle and traced the foot-steps of the Primitive Practice in this Point for 300 years after you might have saved me a labour and your self too then you could say I might have saved you a labour if I had looked over the writings of a few men that you have named who have not in all their Books cited either a Command or Example for infants sprinkling but onely some far-fetched non-sequitors which most of your Paper is filled withall I shall now conclude leaving what I have said in Answer to your Arguments for your Practice and the plain Scripture I have urged for my own Practice to your judgement and the judgement of all to whom this shall come and desire that like the Bereans you and all others that shall peruse this would search whether what I have said in the premisses be of God or no and if in your Conscience you or any else doe so fied it to be take heed then what you do in opposing of it least you be found sighters against God And what hath fallen from my pen that is not according to Gods word I shall desire that you or any else would shew it me either in word or writing and it shall thankfully be received as a favour by SIR Your Friend to Serve you JER IVES FINIS